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Sorry that the racism I funded is negatively impacting the perception of the business I created. Not sorry for the racism tho.
Can racists ever stop being racist though?
Sorry that the racism I funded is negatively impacting the perception of the business I created. Not sorry for the racism tho.
And facebook largely supports Hillary and has given her tens of millions. This is like cutting off an arm because of a papercut.
There's a lot of young conservatives that use libertarianism as a cover for not wanting to admit they're conservative. It'd be a lot less obvious if these guys actually knew a damn thing about being libertarian.It's kind of tiring how many authoritarians (Peter Thiel, now Palmer Luckey as recently relevant examples) try to use Libertarianism is a cover.
Thiel supports the ideas of Mencius Moldbug, a guy who thinks fucking monarchy is the best form of government. Luckey is obviously a Trump supporter by all evidence except this most recent statement; and if he truly is a Johnson supporter, why is he throwing time and money behind Trump, liking tweets related to Trump, writing posts on reddit in support of Trump?
For all my issues with Libertarians... These people are, like, the opposite of libertarians. Why do they so consistently use that word as a cover for their authoritarian, personality-driven politics?
Thanks for a level-headed response.I don't people are upset about him supporting Trump.
It's more about him funding that dumpster fire group. He actively and volitionally funded it, knowing their aims.
And isn't it strange how there are so many young people who claim to be Libertarian yet that party receives so few votes in the elections?There's a lot of young conservatives that use libertarianism as a cover for not wanting to admit they're conservative. It'd be a lot less obvious if these guys actually knew a damn thing about being libertarian.
Can racists ever stop being racist though?
And isn't it strange how there are so many young people who claim to be Libertarian yet that party receives so few votes in the elections?
Can racists ever stop being racist though?
Thanks for a level-headed response.
Is there a detailed summary of the shitty things Nimble America has done?
Can racists ever stop being racist though?
Eh overtime yes.Probably not but we can get them to act less on those impulses.
That reads more like an apology to Facebook and Oculus than publicly addressing anything.
Andy Baio may have identified the shirt he was wearing at that Trump rally, by the way:
Covering up for GF would make him lie like that. He donated 10k just because he's got so much he doesn't know what to do with it. I just wouldn't jump into wild conclusions here unless it's revealed that he wrote the post himself.
edit: and his personal life ain't my business.
Wellthereitis.gifOn top of that milo confirmed it.
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Plus the liking of Trump tweets (and never once retweeting anything Gary Johnson-related) and being at a Trump rally and wearing a Trump shirt.... yeah, he's not just lying about not having made the NimbleRichMan post all right.
I don't think this is fair at all. My understanding is that while incredibly racist, most KKK members these days are active parts of their physical communities and while they might hold terrible racist views they make a difference for their fellow white man in big and small ways. On the other hand, the alt-right are mostly a bunch of cynical young men with little in the way of life experiences beyond their bubbles who give all white men a bad name by being toxic elements of any online community they are part of.
I don't think people have fully recognized the degree to which he's transformed the party," said Richard Spencer, a clean-cut 38-year-old from Arlington, Virginia, who sipped Manhattans as he matter-of-factly called for removing African-Americans, Hispanics and Jews from the United States.
Like most in his group, Spencer said this year's convention was his first. On his social media accounts, he posted pictures of himself wearing a red Trump "Make America Great Again" hat at Quicken Loans Arena. And he says he hopes to attend future GOP conventions.
"Tons of people in the alt-right are here," he said, putting their numbers at the RNC this week in the dozens. "We feel an investment in the Trump campaign."
He and his group chatted up convention goers late into the night, including an executive from a major Jewish organization and a female board member of the Republican Jewish Coalition. They sat at the marble bar as Spencer explained his position on blacks, Hispanics and Jews. They challenged him repeatedly and expressed shock at how calmly he dismissed their rejection of his ideals.
"We'll help them go somewhere else. I'm not a maniac," Spencer said of the minorities he wants to eject from the country. "I know in order to achieve what I want to achieve, you have to deal with people rationally."
"Race is a foundation of identity. You’re a part of something, whether you like it or not."
"When you ask whites to celebrate diversity, you're asking them to celebrate their dwindling numbers."
"I do not want my country to become one in which my children and grandchildren are not only a racial minority, but at the rate things are going now, a hated and despised minority."
"Why is Africa poor? Why is, on the other hand, Haiti equally poor? … This is because they’re populated by the same people."
"East Asians have the highest IQ — about an average of 102, 103. Next come whites at about 100. Next come Hispanics, which are a very varied population — hard to put a firm figure on them. And then blacks have an average IQ of about 85."
"There’s been an overrepresentation by Jews in intellectuals who have tried to undermine the legitimacy of white racial consciousness."
"Jews have their own identity. They’re not European."
We need to be careful about what it is we shame. Scientific findings, so long as they are true, cannot be racist per se. I'm talking specifically about the sentence that is a statement about on-average IQ differences. That statement is largely correct (see the Wikipedia page on race and IQ for a brief review). But it's worth noting that the IQ gap between whites and blacks has been shrinking, and that the reasons for all of these differences are complex.
That only works if you assume that IQ is a scientific measure of intelligence, which it is not.
Spencer and his ilk are only using IQ as a measure of racial superiority. They make this very clear.
IQ tests are good measures of innate intelligence--if all other factors are held steady. But if IQ tests are being used to compare individuals of wildly different backgrounds, then the variable of innate intelligence is not being tested in isolation. Instead, the scores will reflect some impossible-to-sort-out combination of ability and differences in opportunities and motivations.
From your linked article:
So one, they are valid measures of intelligence. But the author thinks they are being misused. Fine. So we can also use tests that correlate highly with g, like Raven's Progressive Matrices or backwards digit span, neither of which is practiced by anyone or involves cultural skills. We get the same results.
Look, the "IQ isn't valid" is an old argument that doesn't work anymore. We've tried the alternatives, this is a real thing. It doesn't reflect racial superiority, but it's real.
From your linked article:
So one, they are valid measures of intelligence. But the author thinks they are being misused. Fine. So we can also use tests that correlate highly with g, like Raven's Progressive Matrices or backwards digit span, neither of which is practiced by anyone or involves cultural skills. We get the same results.
Look, the "IQ isn't valid" is an old argument that doesn't work anymore. We've tried the alternatives, this is a real thing. It doesn't reflect racial superiority, but it's real.
This is not the place for this discussion, so I will say two more things and leave the last word to you.
1. There is a long history of IQ being used for entirely racial reasons. The Alt-Right's use of IQ fits in this context.
2. The best weapon that the Alt-Right has is to muddy the waters. They are attempting to usher in a post-fact society. This is something that they specifically talked about in D.C. last week. When you come in and try to apply nuance to their hate speech, you play right into their hands.
There are two types of people in Palmer Luckey's mentions right now, those that were with him and those that are against him. There is something more interesting there.
They both think this is all true.
People who are talking directly (@ing) to Palmer on Twitter. I'd link it, but I don't know how with Twitter's dumpster fire of a UI.What is "Palmer Luckey's mentions"?
Absolutely no chance I can ever buy Oculus with this horrible guy. Even if he leaves the company.
I was leaning more towards the Vive anyway after FB acquired Oculus. Vive comes from a company I really respect (Valve) and another whose design I love (HTC).
Anyway I'm not hijacking this into system wars. I think Luckey is reprehensible. What is worrying me is there seems to be this acceptance of racism across much of the globe right now. Here in the UK astonishingly it seems to have gone slightly backwards in recent years in terms of the attitudes towards race and religion. This whole episode is indicative of that trend.
They're taking advantage of what's happening. They don't even have touch controllers. They also don't seem to understand(or they do and are just fear mongering) that dropping Oculus support doesn't mean the consumers lose out. They can always buy from Steam.https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/54bdcn/support_for_oculus_rift_on_our_game_vertigo/ Some super cool developers announcing support for Oculus because of this shitshow.
https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/54bdcn/support_for_oculus_rift_on_our_game_vertigo/
Some super cool developers announcing support for Oculus because of this shitshow.
What is "Palmer Luckey's mentions"?
https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/54bdcn/support_for_oculus_rift_on_our_game_vertigo/
Some super cool developers announcing support for Oculus because of this shitshow.
Three kids making a game trying to grab some free publicity.https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/54bdcn/support_for_oculus_rift_on_our_game_vertigo/
Some super cool developers announcing support for Oculus because of this shitshow.
Ah yes, the Play-Asia approach.https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/54bdcn/support_for_oculus_rift_on_our_game_vertigo/
Some super cool developers announcing support for Oculus because of this shitshow.
Classy.https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/54bdcn/support_for_oculus_rift_on_our_game_vertigo/
Some super cool developers announcing support for Oculus because of this shitshow.
I know someone who works for them as well. He uh... does not feel good about this whole situation.Crazy that he so brazenly did this.
Sure there's an apology now, but I feel like whenever he's in front of the press again, this is going to be a talking point he can't get around.
I have some friends who work for Oculus, I have to wonder what they think of all of this.
Ah yes, the Dennis Dyack approach.https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/54bdcn/support_for_oculus_rift_on_our_game_vertigo/
Some super cool developers announcing support for Oculus because of this shitshow.
Statement by Brendan Iribe, CEO of Oculus:
http://venturebeat.com/2016/09/23/palmer-luckey-i-am-deeply-sorry-that-my-actions-hurt-oculus/
https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/54bdcn/support_for_oculus_rift_on_our_game_vertigo/
Some super cool developers announcing support for Oculus because of this shitshow.
Ah yes, the Play-Asia approach.
https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/54bdcn/support_for_oculus_rift_on_our_game_vertigo/
Some super cool developers announcing support for Oculus because of this shitshow.
Wait, what's that about? Is Play-Asia a shitty company?
They ran with the "The SJWs wanna take away your DOA volleyball game, buy from us" approach to marketing.
We believe that the VR community needs to stick together and if we fight among ourselves then we could cause harm to this new medium.