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[Dan]

The wrong thing was bolded in that opening post.



So it's not even a first hand account or a second hand account but a third hand account? People are taking that as 100% truth here?

Seriously. Not even worth discussing. Ellis knows people who know people who know things? Okay.

 

[Grizzlyjin]

These the same executives that meddled a ton with Suicide Squad and a bit with BvS? Not sure I believe they've done a complete 180 to not caring about anything now.

They could have given Ayer complete free reign and Suicide Squad would have still ended up a steaming pile. The production was rushed, he wrote the thing in six weeks. The fact that they went ahead with a quickly scrapped together script for a big DCEU movie before sorta leads credence to the idea that they'd do it again.

 

[Lebron]

Sounds about right looking at their current output of films. Don't really have much faith in DCU honestly.

 

[sanstesy]

Affleck is an incredibly mediocre & boring movie maker anyway. Just scrap him and please get a competent director again, goddamnit.

 

[jack_package_200]

Although I have to admit the change in tone for Justice League at least seems like an attempt at course correction

 

[AnotherDayAnotherDollar]

Why should they, to be honest?

SS and BvS sucked and brought in 750MM and 850MM respectively. A new solo Batman - even with Affleck as Bruce Wayne - will bring in 800MM - 1.1B, easily. As long as the money keeps pouring in, the execs will be happy.

 

[Pai Pai Master]

Is it really surprising to people that WB wouldn't care about the quality of these movies? They will always make bank regardless.

 

[GhostWriter24]

Affleck is an incredibly mediocre & boring movie maker anyway. Just scrap him and please get a competent director again, goddamnit.

Please, please stop.

 

[Bleepey]

Not that it would surprise me that movie end up with a shitty script, but Bret Easton Ellis wouldn't know a good script if it murdered him with an axe to Huey Lewis and The News.

It's cos he liked BVS you say this.

 

[TI82]

Another shitty WB DC film, who would have guessed

 

[sankt-Antonio]

Isn't that kind of a racist remark? Why would people who see the movie localized not care about the bad script?

 

[Robdraggoo]

If Warner execs are unhappy that can mean only one thing

It's a good script

 

[Chichikov]

It's cos he liked BVS you say this.

I didn't even know that, but I'm happy when my hate is validated.

 

[Chaos2Frozen]

I find it insulting, if true, that they think Non-Americans can't tell a shitty script if it's in English.

 

[Angel_DvA]

At least we will always have Nolan's Batman

The first two are incredible, TDKR is well, well...

 

[CassidyIzABeast]

Executive doesn't care about the script for their big budget hollywood blockbuster. News at 11.

 

[jack_package_200]

I find it insulting, if true, that they think Non-Americans can't tell a shitty script if it's in English.

Good point.

I imagine they can look at something like Warcraft performing so well in China and think they don't need to worry about having a good script.

Its super shitty

 

[TheStruggler]

further evidence that the suits dont really give a shit, passion projects turn to shit

 

[illmatic22]

Oh boy...

 

[Username1198]

The wrong thing was bolded in that opening post.



So it's not even a first hand account or a second hand account but a third hand account? People are taking that as 100% truth here?

We know batman v superman and suicixde squad were a mess, so I'm not sure why this will be any different.

 

[FullMetalx117]

The first two are incredible, TDKR is well, well...

Still better than any other superhero movie out there besides the first two

 

[Stinkles]

I've read terrible scripts that somehow look amazing on screen and amazing scripts that fell down when accurately filmed. Movies can be about a single aspect like photography but more often they're the sum of their parts, and everything in the credits contributed or corroded the end result.

 

[Future Foundation]

I appreciate the title change, mods.

"Bret Easton Ellis heard from some people who heard from some people who heard..."

 

[SlimySnake]

What's the issue here? Since when did Marvel care about a good script?

 

[Ross61]

Like this entire statement is literally "I heard from a friend who heard from a friend who hear friend". So you gotta forgive my skepticism against a proven great script writer who is still drafting the script.

 

[Gordon Shumway]

Damn it..not this one of ALL of them..

What's the issue here? Since when did Marvel care about a good script?

Master class, Kellyanne..

 

[Grizzlyjin]

Isn't that kind of a racist remark? Why would people who see the movie localized not care about the bad script?

American blockbusters, especially effects driven ones tend to do well overseas regardless of the critical reception domestically. Kinda like how nobody gave a shit about Warcraft but it did well in China. Basically go back and look at any of the effects heavy films that got critically savaged in the US and didn't perform well, they probably did perfectly fine overseas. That's why you're seeing more of these projects include foreign locales, especially for the Asian market.

 

[DragonSworne]

Isn't fixing script issues like the easiest and cheapest thing to do?

it's literally costs you no money comparatively.

 

[Samuraicop]

If this is true I can't say I would be surprised at this level of not giving a fuck. Sad because I definitely do not want a trash batman film but if it is then just another mark against DC

 

[Gentleman Jack]

We know batman v superman and suicixde squad were a mess, so I'm not sure why this will be any different.

With any luck this will just be a batman movie, not an ensemble film.

 

[NastyBook]

20 years in Hollywood Alfred, we've seen what promises are worth. How many good writers are left? How many stayed that way?

*drlightnodding.gif*

 

[Anung]

Well my uncle works at Ben Affleck and he says the script was great.

I'll wait till I see the movie before I pass judgement. Plenty of movies have been saved in editing. Plus there'll no doubt be reshoot and rewrites.

 

[FStop7]

Take anything B.E.E. says with an entire box of salt.

 

[Gastone]

Yeah let´s all dive on in and believe those magic third-hand overheard conversations. I would seriously take this shit with a grain of salt, and at least wait until reviews shows up.
Furthermore...Ben Affleck himself wrote Gone Baby Gone, The Town and Good Will Hunting. I´ll take his earlier written work as a positive thing until further notice.

 

[Guevara]

I mean, I don't necessarily trust the provenance of this rumor...

...but I bet it's true anyway.

 

[Fersis]

* Executives make script changes *
Internet: EFF U!!! LET THE WRITER AND DIRECTOR DO THEIR THING! EFF U!

* Executives dont make script changes *
Internet: EFF U!!! U LET THE WRITER AND DIRECTOR DO THEIR THING! EFF U!

 

[Gordon Shumway]

Well my uncle works at Ben Affleck and he says the script was great.

I'll wait till I see the movie before I pass judgement. Plenty of movies have been saved in editing. Plus there'll no doubt be reshoot and rewrites.

lol..at Ben Affleck.

 

[cr0w]

Well, I mean...WB studio meddling led to BvS, so who cares what they have to say? Also, Geoff Johns is spearheading DC Films and from what I understand WB really doesn't have much say in the creative process, so who knows what's going on.

I also don't put much faith into anything Ellis says.

 

[Effect]

We know batman v superman and suicixde squad were a mess, so I'm not sure why this will be any different.

What you or someone else thinks about those films is not the issue here. The source and validity of the information is and it admittedly has gone through a game of telephone. The "I know a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy that said" is not a valid source of information for anything. Just because it fits a narrative one wants to push still doesn't make it valid. Nor should it be used.

 

[WillyFive]

What's the issue here? Since when did Marvel care about a good script?

Marvel may not aim to win Oscars but they certainly don't aim to win Razzies.

 

[Adam_Vania]

why should they care about story? it's obvious from the financial success of BvS and SS people watch these things based on trailers alone.

plus you can later sell addicts on "Ultimate Edition" cuts, monetizing both completionist tendencies and your lazy editing/writing.

 

[Messofanego]

I trust in Ben Affleck.

What did you think of The Accountant?

 

[Apathy]

It doesn't matter if it's good or terrible, whichever way it comes out I'll enjoy the outcome. One way I get a decent movie, the other I get to see a giant shit show. Silver linings everyone.

 

[DrArchon]

This rumor is pretty unreliable to say the least, but given WB's track record with these things I wouldn't be surprised if this one turned out to be a dud too. Everyone over there probably has no idea what to do with Batman. Make it dark, which everyone apparently hates given that BvS underperformed? Or fuck with the script to make it light-hearted, which worked out so well for SS?

At this point, I'm not planning on seeing any DC super hero movie that doesn't have Lego in front of the title.

 

[JdFoX187]

So someone heard something from someone who heard something from someone who heard something from someone and it's being reported as truth? And people have their pitchforks out already? Oh, DCEU thread in the OT. Nevermind...

 

[Future Foundation]

Well my uncle works at Ben Affleck and he says the script was great.

I'll wait till I see the movie before I pass judgement. Plenty of movies have been saved in editing. Plus there'll no doubt be reshoot and rewrites.

This makes me wonder: how many people with parents/friends/relatives who actually work at Nintendo or wherever have gotten shit from others because of that.

Yeah let´s all dive on in and believe those magic third-hand overheard conversations. I would seriously take this shit with a grain of salt, and at least wait until reviews shows up.

Shhhh, why you letting common sense get in the way of a good story?

 

[Admiral Woofington]

What did you think of The Accountant?

Correct me if I'm wrong but he didn't write or direct that one

 

[Kenzodielocke]

My take on this:

Affleck will never be happy with the script, but is allowed to change anything he wants. He always talks like with big respect for the character ans his history, he doesn't want to fuck this up.

 

[Chemo]

Not that it would surprise me that movie end up with a shitty script, but Bret Easton Ellis wouldn't know a good script if it murdered him with an axe to Huey Lewis and The News.

This is the absolute truth.

 

[sanstesy]

Please, please stop.

Affleck's movies are literally some of the most boring, monotone & cookie-cutter movies I've ever watched. I don't know how this dude is supposed to pull off a good superhero movie to save his life.