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Media Create Sales: Week 47, 2016 (Nov 21 - Nov 27)

V

Vena

Member
duckroll said:
That's just retail sell-through via trackers though. 1.1 million is total shipments + digital worldwide. We're probably looking at something closer to 800k shipped+digital Japan+Asia, and 300k shipped+digital West.

Edit: Wait I'm an idiot. The tracked sales are 400k in Japan so far.
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Hum? All the versions of DQB are definitely exceeding 700k in Japan, this was from May, and I believe that's just Japan?

Its over that figure with digital even if they shipped zero more physical units since then, so the west+Asia is looking at ~300k or there abouts. How much has actually been sold to end consumers remains unknown and we're not helped by the fact that NPD leakers never gave us info on DQB.

Can't really judge if that's good or not without knowing more, I don't think. Only DQ numbers we've had leaked were the disastrous sell throughs in NPD for DQVII and DQH. If the 700k from May does not include Asia, and the remaining 400k is Japan leftovers + Asia + West, then that's... not great.
 
Bruno MB

Bruno MB

Member
Prediction League November 2016 Results

Congratulations to:

- Chris1964, for winning by units!
- astrogamer, for winning by mean error %!

Code: 
    BY UNITS                                         BY MEAN ERROR %

    01         Chris1964      249.713                01         astrogamer       21,11%
    02           DKHF         302.630                02      Jarod McChicken     24,06%
    03      Jarod McChicken   303.116                03          Bruno MB        26,84%
    04           Eolz         315.010                04           horuhe         32,04%
    05         Bruno MB       336.724                05         Chris1964        34,30%
    06          MANUELF       434.124                06            Eolz          37,28%
    07          horuhe        463.498                07            DKHF          37,45%
    08          Yeshua        504.124                08          MANUELF         38,45%
    09        astrogamer      529.724                09          casiopao        43,36%
    10         casiopao       771.724                10           Yeshua         46,34%

Code: 
                                                           Famitsu   casiopao   Yeshua     Eolz   Chris1964    DKHF    Bruno MB Jarod McCh  horuhe   MANUELF  astrogamer
               [3DS] Nintendo 3DS Hardware                 241.757   130.000   150.000   140.000   210.897   154.000   220.000   250.000   145.758   200.000   220.000
[PS4 - PSV] Atelier Firis: The Alchemist and the Mysteriou  50.018    90.000   100.000    88.000    89.012    95.000    80.000    60.000    69.919    70.000    55.000
           [PS4] Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare            145.643   180.000   220.000   132.000   210.987   195.000   205.000   200.000   160.583   200.000   180.000
             [PS4] PlayStation 4 Pro Hardware               83.800    50.000   100.000    50.000    67.890    75.000    65.000    60.000    54.342   150.000    70.000
                [3DS] Pokémon Sun / Moon                  2.327.453 2.800.000 2.500.000 2.369.000 2.345.678 2.300.000 2.500.000 2.200.000 2.117.112 2.500.000 2.700.000
        [PS4 - PSV] SD Gundam G Generation Genesis         159.281    80.000    60.000    73.000    78.901    75.000   125.000    80.000    66.422    80.000    77.000

                     TOTAL ABS. DIFF.                                771.724   504.124   315.010   249.713   302.630   336.724   303.116   463.498   434.124   529.724
                     MEAN ERROR %                                     43,36%    46,34%    37,28%    34,30%    37,45%    26,84%    24,06%    32,04%    38,45%    21,11%

Code: 
                        STATISTICS                         FAMITSU   GAF_AVG     OVER     UNDER      MIN       MAX           CLOSEST BY
               [3DS] Nintendo 3DS Hardware                 241.757   182.066     10%       90%     130.000   250.000   250.000 Jarod McChicken
[PS4 - PSV] Atelier Firis: The Alchemist and the Mysteriou  50.018    79.693     100%       0%      55.000   100.000      55.000 astrogamer
           [PS4] Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare            145.643   188.357     90%       10%     132.000   220.000        132.000 Eolz
             [PS4] PlayStation 4 Pro Hardware               83.800    74.223     20%       80%      50.000   150.000         75.000 DKHF
                [3DS] Pokémon Sun / Moon                  2.327.453 2.433.179    80%       20%    2.117.112 2.800.000    2.345.678 Chris1964
        [PS4 - PSV] SD Gundam G Generation Genesis         159.281    79.532      0%       100%     60.000   125.000      125.000 Bruno MB
 
C

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
duckroll said:
It's been two whole days since FFXV was released. Where's the "fuck yeah we stuffed the channel hard enough and shipped a million copies" press release?
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If you see a press release it will be for worldwide shipments.

Japanese sellthrough is tomorrow and you won't see stuffed channels.
 
M

MatrixMan.EXE

Member
DKHF said:
Before I make a thread is that number total sold to retailers copies + digital sales? Or only sold physical copies + digital sales?
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It says hanbai, which means sales. Not sure how shipment/sold are usually reported in Japanese press releases though.
 
K

kuroneko0509

Member
need someone that's familiar with how square enix worded their press release for the numbers, because sometimes company do say sold while actually it's shipped I believe. but i'm guessing shipped+digital
 
J

JonnyDBrit

Member
DKHF said:
Before I make a thread is that number total sold to retailers copies + digital sales? Or only sold physical copies + digital sales?
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Its shipped + digital I believe, based on the footnotes at the bottom (Google translate: * 1: package first shipments and download sales total number of)
 
N

Nibel

Member
1st Course said:
So FFXV actually did well in the end?

The game must have been selling very well in the west.
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We don't know until they give us actual sold-through numbers instead of mixing shipped with digital sales

But yeah, the safe expectation here is that it probably performs in the west way better than it does in Japan
 
D

dracula_x

Member
Nibel said:
We don't know until they give us actual sold-through numbers instead of mixing shipped with digital sales

But yeah, the safe expectation here is that it probably performs in the west way better than it does in Japan
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at least, we'll know UK numbers on Monday (retail only).
 
K

Kresnik258

Member
Las7 said:
Should have read your post before posting Kresnik
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Heh, I enjoy discussing this kinda stuff.

I actually have a quarter-by-quarter breakdown of Vita:

Q4 2011 - 439,986
Total - 439,986

Q1 2012 - 202,504
Q2 2012 - 173,791
Q3 2012 - 177,881
Q4 2012 - 136,663
Total - 690,839

Q1 2013 - 336,059
Q2 2013 - 204,207
Q3 2013 - 169,832
Q4 2013 - 514,434
Total - 1,224,532

Q1 2014 - 399,908
Q2 2014 - 246,589
Q3 2014 - 268,270
Q4 2014 - 253,803
Total - 1,168,570

Q1 2015 - 298,025
Q2 2015 - 202,730
Q3 2015 - 197,613
Q4 2015 - 371,103
Total - 1,069,471

Q1 2016 - 296,402
Q2 2016 - 175,912
Q3 2016 - 137,073
Q4 2016 - ???
Total - 609,387

It was actually holding fairly close to 2015 during Q1 and Q2, but then it started to nosedive with Q3. Q4 2015 was a big improvement on the year before and I put that pretty much solely down to Minecraft advertising, but even if it matched last year's performance it'd still be below 1m.

2014 was the most consistent year though, although 2013's Q4 (with slim; PSTV; God Eater; FFX etc.) was good.
 
M

MilkBeard

Member
What is the highest day one digital sales in Japan on record? It looks like there will be a lot of digital sales for FF XV.
 
Bruno MB

Bruno MB

Member
I'm a bit surprised to see that it had a bigger initial shipment + digital in the West than Final Fantasy XIII because Japan + Asia at best must be around or slightly over 1 million units.

Final Fantasy XIII initially shipped 3,56 million units in Europe and North America.

As of March 31, 2010

Japan - 1,85 million
North America - 1,79 million
Europe - 1,77 million
Asia, Other - 0,14 million

It is worth noting that it was very overshipped in Europe since according to GfK Entertainment, sell through by the end of 2010 was at 1,12 million.
 
F

Fisico

Member
DriftingSpirit said:
Hmm, FFXV broke the record for most first day digital sales in Japan. I imagine that number isn't particularly big but yeah.
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According to Famitsu digital estimates Monster Hunter X sold 111k copies digital in November and the game was released the 28th.
I don't think previous mega million seller weres above that (lower digital ratio before, or titles with really low digital ratio to begin with)

So it should have been somewhere between 80-100k first day and FFXV is most likely slightly above that.
 
C

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
Kresnik258 said:
Consistent as in "it sold similarly between all the quarters", unlike other years where it was very up or down.
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Going up or down between quarters is the normal. 2013 and 2015 are better metrics for good pattern, staying flat at last quarter is never good.
 
K

Kresnik258

Member
Chris1964 said:
Going up or down between quarters is the normal. 2013 and 2015 are better metrics for good pattern, staying flat at last quarter is never good.
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Sure, but I didn't say it was good :p

To be fair, I'd say 2012/2014 are more the norm for Vita, in that it doesn't have a lot of software to push it during the holidays so it sells 'alright' for most of the year and then maintains during the holidays vs. Nintendo hardware which tends to see big bumps. They bucked that trend by releasing everything during Q4 2013 and it was only during 2015 when they realised they had a game on the platform with selling-to-parents appeal (Minecraft).
 
Å

Ōkami

Member
Mmmmh.

Doesn't the famitsu article say that it's the highest digital sales for a Square Enix game in Japan?

As in all time highest just for SE not all games.
 
C

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
Ōkami;225758314 said:
Mmmmh.

Doesn't the famitsu article say that it's the highest digital sales for a Square Enix game in Japan?

As in all time highest just for SE not all games.
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That info is in the press release from S-E. Unless Sony and Nintendo provided them highest opening sales at digital they can talk only for their own games.

Fisico said:
According to Famitsu digital estimates Monster Hunter X sold 111k copies digital in November and the game was released the 28th.
I don't think previous mega million seller weres above that (lower digital ratio before, or titles with really low digital ratio to begin with)

So it should have been somewhere between 80-100k first day and FFXV is most likely slightly above that.
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New Leaf sold 200k digital at launch.
 
Å

Ōkami

Member
Biggest digital launch

[3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf - 200k-ish
[3DS] Monster Hunter Generations - 111.544 (2 days)

Biggest console digital launch

[PS4] Dark Souls III - 50.473 (4 days)

Biggest Square Enix digital launch

[PSV] Romancing SaGa 2 - 35.995 (4 days)
[PS4] Dragon Quest Heroes 2 - 30.877 (3 days)

Around 30k seem to be what most big Square Enix games do digitally at launch, Dragon Quest Heroes on PS4, Builders on PS4 & PSV, Overwatch and Dragon Quest VIII are all around that mark as well.
 
F

Fisico

Member
Chris1964 said:
New Leaf sold 200k digital at launch.
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Well I think they were talking about first day digital sales.
New Leaf had a huge digital ratio because of shortages but I don't think it happened the very first day of release?

Ōkami;225764146 said:
Biggest Square Enix digital launch

[PSV] Romancing SaGa 2 - 35.995 (4 days)
[PS4] Dragon Quest Heroes 2 - 30.877 (3 days)

Around 30k seem to be what most big Square Enix games do digitally at launch, Dragon Quest Heroes on PS4, Builders on PS4 & PSV, Overwatch and Dragon Quest VIII are all around that mark as well.
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Speaking about Romancing SaGa 2 it seems to do pretty well for what it was, I think we saw it one or two more times in the Famitsu Digital+retail top 30 and the game never left the top of the digital chart for PSV (it was second this week with half price again)

And regarding sales, I think it's pretty much expected that PS4 games have a digital ratio around 10-15%, looking at à 650-800k FW retail that would give a 65-120k digital first month for FFXV so still in line with what was said above.
 
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Ōkami

Member
Final Fantasy XV will also have one of the longest periods of tracking for digital sales, at least 27 days.

We won't be getting estimates until late January, so no point on discussing much of this right now.
 
C

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
Ōkami;225764146 said:
Biggest digital launch

[3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf - 200k-ish
[3DS] Monster Hunter Generations - 111.544 (2 days)

Biggest console digital launch

[PS4] Dark Souls III - 50.473 (4 days)

Biggest Square Enix digital launch

[PSV] Romancing SaGa 2 - 35.995 (4 days)
[PS4] Dragon Quest Heroes 2 - 30.877 (3 days)

Around 30k seem to be what most big Square Enix games do digitally at launch, Dragon Quest Heroes on PS4, Builders on PS4 & PSV, Overwatch and Dragon Quest VIII are all around that mark as well.
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[3DS] Monster Hunter 4 (&#949;) _Nintendo eShop Download Version_ |DL| <ACT> (Capcom) {2013.09.14} (¥5.705) - 225.324 / 225.324 <8,14%>

That's 3 weeks but a very big part of them was for first.

R/G/B/Y sold 100k at its first 2 days

[3DS] Pokemon Red / Green / Blue / Yellow _3DS Virtual Console Version_ |DL| (Dedicated Download Card Special) <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2016.02.27} (¥1.389) - 69.234 / 69.234
[3DS] Pokemon Red / Green / Blue / Yellow _3DS Virtual Console Version_ |DL| <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2016.02.27} (¥1.111) - 30.290 / 30.290 <30,43%>
 
Å

Ōkami

Member
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Software sales from Dengeki.

Percentage change
3DS -24%
PS4 +56%
PSV +0%
WIU -35%
PS3 -61%
XB1 -48%

Sales are down by almost 5m.

Somewhat surprising how consistent Vita did throughout the year, last December there were some 800k Vita games sold, with Minecraft being 150k, this holiday there's just SaGa so it'll likely end up being down.
 
T

theprodigy

Member
I thought we established that the digital sales comment in Japan was SE only...so what's stopping the Asia sales from being the same thing?
 
K

KillerMan91

Member
theprodigy said:
I thought we established that the digital sales comment in Japan was SE only...so what's stopping the Asia sales from being the same thing?
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Well I guess it could be. But I prefer to read it as a optimist and that it means out of all games =P. Maybe we get some specific Asia related shipment numbers some day if they are worth of bragging about.
 
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