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Legend of Zelda Mafia |OT| A Lynch to the Past

CCS

Banned
I saw some discussion on that the first page, but I just need to check everyone knows that's not how odds work right? It was getting under my skin.

Of course it's not. The odds are 50/50. You're either scum or you're not.

:p
 

Kawl_USC

Member
CCS has done pre than one weird thing in this game do you believe he's just ignoring his scum team pals?

Ideal play for day one if scum is to avoid the limelight CCS has not played this way, which means he's being bold as scum or he's not scum.

His actions have been unnecessary, strange and anti town. The claim was the first of such. Hell it wasn't even getting attention until I raised it a bit more.

So we have bold scum ccs who Insta claimed vanilla and then did the rugby chat which made him change a vote target, doing what he damn pleases ignoring scum chat. I'm sure after that claim you're scum mates would be telling you to lay low a bit

Yea, I agree with all of that pertaining to a scum chat getting on his case. I'm just not sure he would give a shit. See a lot of nin like, wild card behavior from CCS.
 

Sophia

Member
Chiming in real fast just to say a few things.

Firstly, I just want to say...

I don't believe you should vote out someone who is contributing a lot to the discussion on day one, even if you are scum leaning them. If you are right, waiting to push them in future days gives you way more to work on in future days. If you are wrong, well you are doing scum's job for them. Town loses when it's big talkers are gone.

So yes, I am scum reading her, but it's a day one gut read and I am acknowledging she has been contributing positively to town regardless of alignment.

... this is a bit silly. If you think I'm scum, you should push for it. There are enough big talkers in this game that one of us getting removed isn't going to significantly impact the game on day one.

Sophia is hard because I don't have a good scum comparison, but I don't like her "look at this. hmm hmm" posts when I remember her town analysis being more thoughtful and kinda more direct instead of this sorta throwing shade. It's doesn't feel that different, she's still doubting, but she seems more focused on building an agenda.

Like this:


There's way more agenda (Ty4on is scummy) than thought. A tunnel is fine, but Sophia isn't tunneling.
In general it feels like her posts have a predetermined opinion that she is arguing for instead of thinking about the situation at hand. Feels like there should be more nuance.

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I'm running out of time before work starts and don't really feel like melon is scum atm.

VOTE: Sophia

Secondly, glad to see that balance has been restored to the universe in regards to me and Ty. Town or scum, it's just weird when he's not picking apart my posts like this. Thought I still slightly scum read Ty.

These series of posts strike me as a bit curious. Bit of whiplash there. Did you realize it wasn't making Melon look good after all and not want to sound out of place compared to townies? You went from "this is good" to "this is eh" to "this is shit" in less than a page.

Negative, I realized it was effectively spamming up the thread. Also, some of her notes started lacking a conclusion of some sort by the end. When it was all said and done, her reads list here was more helpful.
 

cabot

Member
Yea, I agree with all of that pertaining to a scum chat getting on his case. I'm just not sure he would give a shit. See a lot of nin like, wild card behavior from CCS.

Comparing CCS to nin? What has he done to warrant such pain.

Speaking of where is nin
 

Ty4on

Member
I have no idea about CCS.

Cabot seems normal to me (never played with Scum cabot) and well intentioned. He doesn't look like he's forcing a townie look either. Not a strong read, but not where I wanna focus my limited attention.
 

Sophia

Member
I have no idea about CCS.

Cabot seems normal to me (never played with Scum cabot) and well intentioned. He doesn't look like he's forcing a townie look either. Not a strong read, but not where I wanna focus my limited attention.

I played with scum cabot once.

He was drunk.

Unrelated, but that game never actually finished. :p
 

cabot

Member
I don't agree at all with kawls CCS as a graduate from the nin school of naught rogue activities, hut its as good a reason as any for a day one lynch.
 

Sophia

Member
Those votes on CCS bother me, possibly because I haven't extensively read over CCS's posts. I'll try to do that now while I have time before I leave the house.
 

CCS

Banned
Man, if you guys really do kill me, at least don't lynch acohrs tomorrow. Trust me on him once you know I can be trusted.

VOTE: CCS
 

Natiko

Banned
I would scum read CCS if it wasn't for his interaction with acohrs and his previous play in Pop. I'm Pop he was (no offense) a bad townie and that's just what he appears to be here. I don't think both CCS and acohrs can be scum after that interaction earlier and acohrs play feels more deceitful with his suspect votes that were called out for being bad prod ones, how quick he was to drop the Magnum vote over nothing, and how he's trying to downplay his ability when he cleaned up as scum last time.
 

Sawneeks

Banned
Zelda Fact of the Day #1: Did you know that Ocarina of Time originally was going to have a hub world in Ganon's Castle to travel to different locations just like Peach's Castle in Super Mario 64? Now you know!

natiko (0)
sorian 244 (264)

splinter (0)
melonrabbit 245 (756)

sorian (1)
ty4on 246 (547)
sophia 323 (477)
acohrs 669

melonrabbit (1)
bronx-man 251 (491)
cabot 765 (811)
czartim 774

sophia (2)
pop-o-matic 253
czartim 364 (585)
ty4on 827

bronx-man (0)
sorian 264 (453)

cabot (1)
ccs 268 (377)
kawl_usc 471 (751)
*splinter 545

magnumboy20xx (0)
acohrs 277 (388)
czartim 585 (591)

acohrs (2)
natiko 362 (427)
sorian 456 (516)
natiko 590
franconp 770

kawl_usc (0)
cabot 370 (612)
sophia 477 (693)
sorian 516 (583)
kawl_usc 751 (865)

absolutbro (1)
ccs 377 (658)
cabot 612 (765)
magnumboy20xx 664

kawl (0)
acohrs 409 (499)

acorhs (0)
sorian 453 (456)

pop-o-matic (1)
stanleypalmtree 563 (829)
cabot 811

stanleypalmtree (0)
ty4on 564 (827)

ty4on (1)
sorian 583
czartim 591 (633)
ccs 658 (801)
ccs 830 (873)

ccs (4)
melonrabbit 756
stanleypalmtree 829
kawl_usc 865
ccs 873

Day 1 Ends in:
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Natiko

Banned
Man, if you guys really do kill me, at least don't lynch acohrs tomorrow. Trust me on him once you know I can be trusted.

VOTE: CCS
Do you have some insight that clears acohrs or are you just saying this due to your friendly banter?
 

CCS

Banned
Hip. That ruined that joke. Although the idea of the two of you doing a three-legged race is entertaining in its own way.
 

CCS

Banned
Do you have some insight that clears acohrs or are you just saying this due to your friendly banter?

I don't have some insight, I just trust him. As you all should trust me.

Forgive them, they do not know what they do.
 

acohrs

Member
No CCS, not letting you give up! Get off that ledge and come back down, we can get tea and crumpets and laugh when England wins another 6N grand slam!
 

CCS

Banned
No CCS, not letting you give up! Get off that ledge and come back down, we can get tea and crumpets and laugh when England wins another 6N grand slam!

Sadly, I support Scotland. So I can join you for a cry after we put in a brave and promising performance but still manage to lose after we cock it up at the end :p
 

Sophia

Member
You two are full of crap.

If you're both town, you just WIFOM'd the hell out of town for no benefit.

Where do you think that gets us, exactly?
 

acohrs

Member
Sadly, I support Scotland. So I can join you for a cry after we put in a brave and promising performance but still manage to lose after we cock it up at the end :p

...

You've got Cotter man, you'll come good one day, just got to not be lynched before that glorious new Dawn!
 
Did you realize they weren't helpful or did you realize you were starting to look suspicious y taking such boiler plate notes?


Well, I asked if people would be interested. I was making the notes for me and specifically yourself and Ty seemed somewhat interested. Sophia as you mention had conflicting opinions. I'm still writing them for me but I'm not going to bother posting them for in the thread for people to just be pissy about them after expressing interest.

I'm not going to continue to address it because I'm actually annoyed/upset about the whole and I don't want to keep reiterating what has already being said.

Clearly, I fucked up.

Talk about my reads or whatever.
 

Kawl_USC

Member
Alright cool. Acohrs climbing on down into the mess as well.

Yea my stated opinion remains the same. Throw acohrs in that camp as well then.
 
This would have been more useful to put in your read list than what you had.



My point was your top town are players that can be good to have around, but also have weaknesses that can be exploited via lynch (useful for scum), whereas it's not quite as easy to lead a lynch on players like Kawl, Sorian and I (Tim has been lynched before as Town in Love Boat, but he was fairly inactive) without actual PRs doing some work. That was what popped out to me when I went through that reads list.



You could objectively apply that point for acohrs to either CCS or acohrs right now. CCS has now been discussed and he's been involved in some discussion generating events. Voting record seems a weak argument when it's D1 and no votes have actually taken place. He's been choosing easy targets but he has now clarified he's going to vote before deadline. Maybe then you can work from that record once the day ends.

It will pretty much what I said before about Tim.

Okay. I don't disagree. Interesting observation.

I'm more concerned that CCS jumps from vote to vote without being able to come up with reads or something of substance as to why he's voting and continue do so and now, I guess he's giving up?

What's your feeling on CCS. Why do you find them such an easy target?

You can have a bad impression, I just felt your notes weren't particularly useful to post and you've made mistakes in your assumptions which has me questioning your impression.

You say this and yet you are upset I have a gut read in you.

do you think scum!Tim would follow scum!cabot's vote so quickly after my response to you?

Not really. Which is why I added that I don't know why to make of it.

My problem is above, you're throwing shade but you're not willing to give me a real reason why.

D1. Just a gut feeling. I didn't vote for you because I can't support it nor will until I have something more than feelings.
 

CCS

Banned
...

You've got Cotter man, you'll come good one day, just got to not be lynched before that glorious new Dawn!

I have to hope. I will hope.

I feel like singing My Heart Will Go On right now :p

But my god, I'm not getting lynched on day one without creating the biggest mess possible.
 

Natiko

Banned
Well, I asked if people would be interested. I was making the notes for me and specifically yourself and Ty seemed somewhat interested. Sophia as you mention had conflicting opinions. I'm still writing them for me but I'm not going to bother posting them for in the thread for people to just be pissy about them after expressing interest.

I'm not going to continue to address it because I'm actually annoyed/upset about the whole and I don't want to keep reiterating what has already being said.

Clearly, I fucked up.

Talk about my reads or whatever.
I don't think your notes were bad (though I cannot attest to Cabot's interjection regarding their accuracy). They just weren't useful to me in that instance as I had just read through everything and taken my own notes too for my reads list. Didn't mean to make it sound like I was disparaging you.
Still lean scum on you though.
 

cabot

Member
He's an easy target because he's been fumbling all day phase.

My feeling is town. If there's scum between acohrs and CCS I believe it's more likely acohrs.
 
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