FFXIII hasn't launched yet, the 2 systems will come close very soon.
It's not how many months PS4 will remain over PS3 launch aligned but where it will end comparing to it in the end.
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FFXIII hasn't launched yet, the 2 systems will come close very soon.
It's not how many months PS4 will remain over PS3 launch aligned but where it will end comparing to it in the end.
It's kind of like Splatoon at this point in the game. Demo of Splatoon was pretty barebones too then we get to see more content as the game gets closer to launch.
It will surely be the same with ARMS. Surely you don't believe it will only get 5 characters and only a few stages and no single player mode when it launches. How much content we will see, obviously that's hard to predict.
arms will do even worse than nintendo land
price has never been a problem, its always been the software support that matters
how much do u think taking out the dock will save? will it even be worth it?
coz of the price?
price has never been a problem, its always been the software support that matters
how much do u think taking out the dock will save? will it even be worth it?
DarkLordMalik
Member
Lmao. Tell that to Nintendo who were forced to cut price within launch year of 3DS and also made an Ambassador program for it.
they jumped the gun because of less than spectaular launch period
give u one guess why
Well, the price drop also came at a time with a bunch of big 3DS releases.
I don't think it will be anything close to a new Splatoon but I don't think its price will have anything to do with it.
Price means nothing without the proper software. That's what has always been.
I don't think I mentioned price somewhere.
DarkLordMalik
Member
You are delusional if you think price doesn't matter.
Both go hand to hand. Sony dropped price of PS4 to coincide with some big games. To have best impact of a drop, there needs to be software to support it. Cheaper is always better especially when the multiplayer portion already requires buying an expensive set of accessories and the memory is limited, forcing you to upgrade it.
I'm sure that thousands of people will go out buying Switch because Eurogamer rumored a Pokemon game for it. Yeah. Totally.
The potential comes from its appeal. The inital reception was pretty lukewarm, until the Japanese fanarts dig into the game and its popularity slowly rose to unbelievable heights. I don't think ARMS can duplicate that, but maybe it will gain more traction as the game reveals more about itself. For now, yeah it could be a bomba candidate.
then dropping the price was a mistake, just when they had the killer software they gave up millions on revenue. Incompetence at its finest
Or maybe price matters
Of course he is. Didn't you see GameCube?
One more time if you still don't get what I say: Software > price
3ds launched a time when mobile was on the uptake and the market was starting to dwindle in general
this caught everyone, including nintendo by surprise
in hindsight they were decent numbers for a handheld without the software needed to sell well, had nintendo just waited for the games released at the end of the year, they would have saved alot of money
of course being as conversative as they are, im not surprised they took the safer approach
this caught everyone, including nintendo by surprise
in hindsight they were decent numbers for a handheld without the software needed to sell well, had nintendo just waited for the games released at the end of the year, they would have saved alot of money
of course being as conversative as they are, im not surprised they took the safer approach
Are you serious with that prediction?
You think it will land between 3DS LTD and DS LTD?
SalesGAF is the craziest GAF.
price matters in the general sense that a console should be priced accordingly to its value
the 3ds was over-priced badly for lack of value it initially had (bad software support)
just as the wii/3ds despite being low-powered, had a ton of value and was under-priced
we are not talking neogeo priced consoles, the 3ds would have done well had the games just came earlier
nintendo's first party will always be their saving grace in japan, the switch will be fine, its world-wide where i feel the most problems
the 3ds was over-priced badly for lack of value it initially had (bad software support)
just as the wii/3ds despite being low-powered, had a ton of value and was under-priced
we are not talking neogeo priced consoles, the 3ds would have done well had the games just came earlier
nintendo's first party will always be their saving grace in japan, the switch will be fine, its world-wide where i feel the most problems
How would we know?
We got a 3 minute demo of a fight, not an outline of the game.
I don't know what you're saying or if you're talking to the right person.
AdventureRacing
Member
3DS on the low end? That's crazy. I'm not saying that can't happen but it's not even remotely close to a guarantee.
DarkLordMalik
Member
Why mention GameCube? The point is that Switch is appealing because it is supposed to be 3DS successor and the main aspect that will help it sell in Japan is portability, no?
So how does GameCube factor here when aside from Wii, both N64 and GameCube flopped hard even though both had pretty good first party support.
If Switch was just another Nintendo console, I doubt a price cut would have helped it.
Well good to know you are well versed in Business because Nintendo obviously didn't think that and hence were quick to cut the price of their handheld and had to compensate early buyers with an Ambassador program for it.
Well Psycho_Mantis says its price point is an insult because of how little content it has.:S
its guaranteed to me
3ds basically thrived off nintendo first party, the usual third parties like mh and yw will also show up on switch
now with the switch basically getting double the number of first party games the 3ds did? i dont see anything far-fetched bout it
wii sold even less than ds so thanks for making my prediction more realistic?
You quoted me saying tha Switch has a mainline pokemon game coming this year.
I counter quoted you saying that Eurogamer rumored it, nothing more so far. I can't see the mass market react to this kind of non-news.
Does he have an uncle I should about?
lol
yea I was mistaken in thinking it was a Laura rumor (who I trust....I think. I forget who's right anymore) and not eurogamer, who I dunno about.
But the original post was that Switch didn't have a portable brand, and I said pokemon, based on the rumor that I thought was Laura.
The 1-10 million First Year Switch thing was a joke if unclear. Since people were predicting sales.
See my bolded. Maybe that's the confusion.
I fixed it, I meant DS.
You sure are optimistic... or should I say delusional? You need to consider the current state of the japanese gaming scenario to make that calculation. There is no way Switch reaches 3DS LTD, let alone fucking DS, the best selling console ever in Japan. You are crazy.
we all have to make choices at the end of the day, despite watever experience or knowledge we may have
nintendo is not exempt from this
michaelius
Banned
Being handheld didn't help much 3DS before they dropped price to more sane levels.
Being 3DS successor means it will get the same software.
If price is so important only for handhelds and not home consoles, Vita has comparable price with newer 3DS models last years, why doesn't it sell?
i see consoles doing very well when it has the right software support
3ds ltd is pretty much the minimum nintendo handhelds do, i dont see wats so crazy, maybe u are being...pessimistic?
and i never said it'll do ds numbers guaranteed, please relax
*shrugs*
I pointed it out in another thread but pre-price drop 3DS was still signicantly outpacing any other system this generation. I think it was at 1.5 LTD when it dropped its price.
Why do you consider Switch a handheld though? 3h battery life, market as a home console... what am I missing?
And the shift to mobile is faster than ever. I dont think it is reasonable to expect everything to keep its status quo.
Apparently many things.
I remember the 3DS doing much better not during its price drop, but during the holidays when the big hitters like Mario Kart 7 and Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate arrived. Price drop certainly helped it, but it was the popular games that really pushed the hardware to become like the fastest selling console at that time.
well its both, that still makes it a handheld no?
all those things is second to the one thing that matters: software
nintendo has shown they can carry a handheld in japan, i dont see anything that will change this
they expected ds-like sales, very unreasonable with wat they offered
Then where is Pokemon going? Will it die with 3DS? Mobile?
I understand him dooming 1, 2 switch or whatever it's called, cause we've literally seen that type of party game 1,000 times. And the treehouse demo did not seem to show any hidden depth.
But a new IP fighter-thing from the Mario Kart team (...?) (or at least Kosuke Yabuki is involved) that probably has more involved coding in throwing one punch than all of 1,2 switch?
let's wait and see first.
protip: if chris is making an incorrect statement, its always sarcasm
DarkLordMalik
Member
Nintendo Switch is very portable indeed. Can't wait to carry it in my back pocket.
You can have the best software in business but if you keep the price high, there will be a limit to how much you can sell. So if the price isn't dropped, their will be a limit to how much the Switch can sell.
Both are equally as important.
I said price and software both go hand to hand.
You can have the best software in business but if you keep the price high, there will be a limit to how much you can sell. So if the price isn't dropped, their will be a limit to how much the Switch can sell.
Both are equally as important.
DriftingSpirit
Member
I need to see a pic of those pants.
Nintendo Switch is very portable indeed. Can't wait to carry it in my back pocket.
I said price and software both go hand to hand.
You can have the best software in business but if you keep the price high, there will be a limit to how much you can sell. So if the price isn't dropped, their will be a limit to how much the Switch can sell.
Both are equally as important.
Is that a Switch in your pocket or are you
oh u know im packinI need to see a pic of those pants.
Nintendo Switch is very portable indeed. Can't wait to carry it in my back pocket.
I said price and software both go hand to hand.
You can have the best software in business but if you keep the price high, there will be a limit to how much you can sell. So if the price isn't dropped, their will be a limit to how much the Switch can sell.
Both are equally as important.
Just remove the Joycons before putting it in your pocket.
The launch price will always be high. It's not limited to just consoles btw. Markdowns happen later so it's not like the price of the Switch will remain that way for long.
DriftingSpirit
Member
Oh my. Greatness awaits indeed.oh u know im packin
ArkhamFantasy
Member
Nintendo lost thier damn minds with these prices. $70 for a pro controller?