I certainly now think they do. And I don't think it will be 100% cart-for-cart compatible with the Switch, even if it will use Tegra architecture.
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Switch being a hybrid, traditionally handheld series will probably get upgraded
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I certainly now think they do. And I don't think it will be 100% cart-for-cart compatible with the Switch, even if it will use Tegra architecture.
YuriLowell
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If they do than any interest I have in the switch is GONE.
Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate for Wii U was the best experience I've ever had with the series.
I think they can't replace the 3ds with the switch. The products are too different in everything. It's way too pricey.
And they keep insisting this is not a portable. Wich is crazy when you think about it.
Cause i'm telling you. If they say tomorrow, there is a new portable coming after that. Switch preorders are cancelled everywhere. People are motivating themselves cause they think this will have all the portable games.
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Switch has sooo many problems. It's a catastrophic offer. Its life hangs to a thin thread. The ambiguity that it may be the only place for every Nintendo games in the future helps it a LOT right now.
I find it more likely they'll move to mobile if the switch doesn't sell gangbusters to avoid increased development costs.
It wouldn't surprise me if they make a true portable later with the same OS for ports to be easy.
It wouldn't surprise me if they make a true portable later with the same OS for ports to be easy.
pretty done
Member
Same. I have no idea how anyone could do G rank on the little 3DS screen with those non-controls.
Solid SOAP
Member
I'm personally hoping to see more games like Square's 2D RPG. Small-budget games with retro art in them that still take advantage of the new technology. The system is portable and I'd like to see games that are smaller budget to accommodate the portable nature of the system.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
I know I proposed something different in the OP (because that's my ideal scenario), but I see another alternative to the Switch/Handheld question: handheld games will simply "become" budget titles with lower development costs. I see that happening over a 3DS successor.
Worst case scenario is as others have said: devs will stop making handheld franchises due to higher dev costs and just let them die. I just really hope this isn't the case. One thing in the most recent trailer that makes me think this isn't likely to happen is the new game from the Bravely Default team.
Worst case scenario is as others have said: devs will stop making handheld franchises due to higher dev costs and just let them die. I just really hope this isn't the case. One thing in the most recent trailer that makes me think this isn't likely to happen is the new game from the Bravely Default team.
KO Traveling Hobo
Member
I didn't have any plans to buy a Switch, but if they make more Tellius-style Fire Emblem games for it, I might seriously reconsider.
IrishNinja
Member
Animal Crossing, Phoenix Wright, some good VN's and i'm happy like a clam
just bummed we won't see more Hotel Dusk, Last Window as fantastic & i don't know how that would've worked here at all but i'dve loved it all the same
just bummed we won't see more Hotel Dusk, Last Window as fantastic & i don't know how that would've worked here at all but i'dve loved it all the same
Announcing pokemon would've killed it, but the fact they didn't has me doubting it's real as well.
I'll wait before making that conclusion. We haven't see a single portable Nintendo franchise on Switch yet. If the next Pokemon is on it, yes, we can consider this is Nintendo's next handheld.
Writing this convinced me I'm definitely going to hold off Switch until Pokemon is announced on it, just to be sure. And I don't like Pokemon.
Writing this convinced me I'm definitely going to hold off Switch until Pokemon is announced on it, just to be sure. And I don't like Pokemon.
Stairouais
Member
Nope. They won't. They wouldnt' have shown a Mario game planned for a December release if that was the case. People have been saying this for two years, this has to stop.
The Switch has 2 years old mobile hardware...It's only that Nintendo has no modern console.
GrayFoxPL
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jasminlovesyoux
Banned
Do we know for a fact there's a Pokemon stars planned for switch? Where is the proof
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
The lesser selling one's don't have to look decent, and hd and modern development tools will make them look nice regardless at the bare minimum nowadays but still being sold on the switch won't hurt them too mucb
They'll still cost more to make. You have to make 2 versions and far better quality assets than 3DS. Can't go around that.
StereoVsn
Member
Yeah, think more like $60 for those (more outside US).
Monster Hunter not getting announced is a huge warning sign.
Couldn't Nintendo even secure that franchise from Capcom?
Switch is reaching scam territory, it's absolutely not future proof.
There's no guarantee Nintendo portable franchises will go to the system.
New entries of the best selling portable series should at least have been announced.
Why isn't it the case?
Is Nintendo planning a real 3DS successor besides Switch?
It's fishy.
Personal guess is that it's moving to either home consoles or mobile.
Freeman
Banned
Its weird that the lineup is so weak if it is the successor of the 3DS as well as the WiiU.
I wonder how much moving up from 3DS to Switch will affect the developer, probably a lot.
I hope they make an honest effort with Pokemon, no excuses this time to keep the same slow pace of improvements.
I wonder how much moving up from 3DS to Switch will affect the developer, probably a lot.
I hope they make an honest effort with Pokemon, no excuses this time to keep the same slow pace of improvements.
Or The Pokémon Company is doing what they did in the past & is saving the reveal of Stars for its own separate Direct.
The_Endgamer
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I feel we're moving toward an AAA/Indie title rather than Handheld/Home console game environment.
Nintendo I think will be curating which Indie devs they want to upgrade for those middle tier games like Fast RMX.
EDIT: For Nintendo's own middle tier games + handheld games it will be interesting to see how it goes (Fire Emblem, Pokemon, Kid Icarus, Star Fox). Whether they embrace the upgrade of development freedoms or continue to position themselves as a more focused style of game for handheld remains to be seen.
Nintendo I think will be curating which Indie devs they want to upgrade for those middle tier games like Fast RMX.
EDIT: For Nintendo's own middle tier games + handheld games it will be interesting to see how it goes (Fire Emblem, Pokemon, Kid Icarus, Star Fox). Whether they embrace the upgrade of development freedoms or continue to position themselves as a more focused style of game for handheld remains to be seen.
Well that's stupid because people needed convincing and Switch is absolutely not future-proof right now.
Tell that to TPC, they usually want to keep the spotlight to themselves as far as mainline Pokémon games go. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that X/Y were also revealed in a separate Direct in the Spring.
I'd love to see a Layton collection on Switch...
And Sun and Moon are still selling well. Probably they will announce Pokémon Stars near the end of fiscal year, or a few after.
Yes
I might be wrong but I don't think the 3DS is the end of the line for handheld only devices. I know they now have Switch and some mobile games but I would bet real money by mid 2018 we will be hearing about a successor to the 3DS. Maybe I will be wrong if this thing sells real well and people accept it as a handheld device but I have serious doubts about that. The fact also being that they have gone out of their way to not say that this is their new handheld device replacement for the 3DS speaks volumes to me. Also being Nintendo and seeing how they seem to be totally oblivious to criticism I think not having every team working on Switch games would probably be the icing on the cake that already has an over priced hybrid, over priced controllers, an all time weak launch lineup, an under powered console when in dock mode, not putting that 1,2 Switch as a pack in game etc. That would fit in with the rest of their decisions that they have made including making their first mobile Mario game a runner.
Not really in an effective way. I really wanted to love video out on the PSP and tried many official and custom firmware solutions. The games took a performance hit going to the screen, and they did not play in full TV resolution (there were black bars around the entire thing).
Not to mention 272 vertical pixels felt pretty insufficient on a large screen for the type of games that were shipping on that platform.
SporeCrawler
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Point of the hybrid is that they can consolidate their resources.Maybe there will be a mobile only switch but it will be the same games
Jasper Avenue
Member
There's no way that the Switch is going to be considered Nintendo's new handheld. We'll get a follow up to the 3DS next year at a price point that people can accept.
Regardless of whether that happens or not, or even if they release a more home focused device, it's pretty clear the lineup will be the same across the board.
CrispyBoar
Banned
Because optical discs are outdated for gaming now?
TreasureHunterG
Banned
Who's believing Switch is portable primary system is delusional. Nintendo is very aware that mobiles are eating up the whole portable market and they can't afford to compete with it. Japan, their homeland, is now a mobile country and despite their efforts to support and 3DS relevant this far they know this is a battle they can't win. How can they compete against a market where BILLIONS of people are in it? They can't. No secret why they decided to join it, along with other factors, like where lies now the casual market they were after with both Wii and Wii U. They'll never be able to attract them back to the home console grounds like they did in 2006 in a more and more mobile world.
Nintendo made a wise choice to set Switch as a home console primary. Despite the market is now dominated by Sony and Microsoft, there's a better chance for Nintendo to stand than to compete against the gargantuan mobile market that even themselves can't affort to ignore it.
Yeah, I agree the specs, third-party support, internal storage and price are issues that needs to be fixed, but home consoles are where Nintendo should really try to go after. Anyone supportive of the "Nintendo can't compete" crap is just signing Nintendo's death wish if they believe they should follow this. They can't escape competition on any front. If they can't afford to compete (or don't want to), the best thing they should do is to leave the hardware business for good and become a third-party dev, which will ultimately change the Nintendo we all know and love forever.
Nintendo made a wise choice to set Switch as a home console primary. Despite the market is now dominated by Sony and Microsoft, there's a better chance for Nintendo to stand than to compete against the gargantuan mobile market that even themselves can't affort to ignore it.
Yeah, I agree the specs, third-party support, internal storage and price are issues that needs to be fixed, but home consoles are where Nintendo should really try to go after. Anyone supportive of the "Nintendo can't compete" crap is just signing Nintendo's death wish if they believe they should follow this. They can't escape competition on any front. If they can't afford to compete (or don't want to), the best thing they should do is to leave the hardware business for good and become a third-party dev, which will ultimately change the Nintendo we all know and love forever.
piratepwnsninja
Member
Did everyone forget that they merged their console and handheld divisions in 2013?
Megalosaro
Banned
Is fire emblem a handheld series? It seems to me it goes both ways.
DeuceGamer
Member
Yea, I think it's far more likely that we see a revised Switch that is smaller and handheld, but plays the same software.
cubicle47b
Member
Yeah, I think that's possible. Maybe even likely.
And yet, they are still producing dedicated console/handheld titles. Those mergers may have been more about sharing technology than building single-platform games.
