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Announcing games way before they're ready
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Lil'DigiOp
Member
Its my biggest beef with the game industry.
Honestly Death Stranding and NMH3 can fall off a cliff.
Don't show me shit I can't play in less than 13 months
NMS got burned for it, It was at E3 for like 2 years... so dumb. FF15 was a 10 year shitshow, showing off something way too damn early.
Its such a weak ass way to pad a release schedule and it takes away opportunities from developers who have software that is ready to be marketed in a timely manner, only to be overshadowed by a bunch of posters talking about NOTHING from watching some corny CG trailer.
Honestly Death Stranding and NMH3 can fall off a cliff.
Don't show me shit I can't play in less than 13 months
NMS got burned for it, It was at E3 for like 2 years... so dumb. FF15 was a 10 year shitshow, showing off something way too damn early.
Its such a weak ass way to pad a release schedule and it takes away opportunities from developers who have software that is ready to be marketed in a timely manner, only to be overshadowed by a bunch of posters talking about NOTHING from watching some corny CG trailer.
vincenth69
Member
To grow hype and drive preorder. That helps studios see if it can be a good investment or they might need to change/cancel it.
TheGeniusArcana
Member
SMTxFE's early announment along with Yoshi's Willy World always struck me as Nintendo panicking a bit because of the Wii U's situation.
NMH3 wasn't shown, he just confirmed development has started and which platform it is coming to, though it was never confirmed to be an exclusive by any means so we will have to wait and see, maybe 2018 E3.
I think Square is the biggest offender personally. FF13versus becoming FF15 is just one example but there is KH3, FF7R and DQ11 which is hopefully coming out soon, also Original FF13 took years after the 2005? E3.
Announcing things early makes for great listwars against competitors tho even if it's 2+ years out 😉
Industry thread.
Lil'DigiOp
Member
It doesn't even matter. Suda didn't have a goddamn thing to even "announce". Nothing.
He should have never been on stage.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
FTFY
I suppose there is that. I'm generally a fan of their output, but it would be nice to see them announce more games that are less than 18 months out.
Yeesh! Forgot about them, but yeah, it's probably awful being an SE fan at times.
Hardly any larger developers does this. There are only a few exceptions.
valkillmore
Member
Rockstar thread? Fucking Rockstar thread. But I love them for it anyways.
Unknown?
Member
I really don't mind if the year they announce games two years off if they have a steady stream of games announced two years ago releasing presently.
If it's like Microsoft's 2014 E3 where they showed a bunch of CG and games years off(some still not released) with crap output for that year then yeah it sucks.
If it's like Microsoft's 2014 E3 where they showed a bunch of CG and games years off(some still not released) with crap output for that year then yeah it sucks.
What? Rockstar used to be rockstars about this.
Now in The Oven
Simo
Member
With the exception of Max Payne 3, GTAIV and V, which they admitted was announced too early, Rockstar usually announce their stuff 1 year before release.
ChimpBottle
Member
Well yeah. But I would say of the three, Sony is the biggest offender. The Last of Us 2 is what, 3 years away? Why do we need to know about it now?
CertifiedFP
Member
Sony?
Last I checked, I can't think of any notable announcements they've made this gen that are far off and at risk of being cancelled on a whim. Death Stranding is definitely years away, but I'd wager it will end up shipping mostly-intact.
If this is any thread, it's a Microsoft thread. Especially with their casualty-rate this gen.
To be fair they showed off Cyberpunk so they could get people to come work on it.
TheUntamedLegend
Member
It's nice to be excited about things.
And, if they don't announce it, people assume it doesn't exist.
And, if they don't announce it, people assume it doesn't exist.
Horizon would have made the cut if it hadn't been for the delay and GOW has a chance as well.
Last I checked that wasn't the issue being addressed. No need to get your undies twisted.
Cow Goes Moo
Member
games take a long time to make, longer nowadays even
they're more expensive to make
pipeline isn't as huge as it use to be
marketing team has something to do
hype cycle
i think some of those reasons could be why, but yeah it sucks
they're more expensive to make
pipeline isn't as huge as it use to be
marketing team has something to do
hype cycle
i think some of those reasons could be why, but yeah it sucks
OrbitalBeard
Member
Sony isn't any worse about this than Nintendo and Microsoft. I'll remind you of the infamous January 2013 Nintendo Direct. And I'm still waiting on Crackdown 3, almost three years since its announcement.
I'm not seeing the issue with announcing a game really early, as long as it's communicated clearly to consumers that the project is far away. This is exactly what Sony and Naughty Dog did before revealing The Last of Us Part 2. They made clear the title is very early in development and a long way off. Not really seeing any issue with this approach. To me, the problem is when you start giving release windows and continually miss them, as was the case with Breath of the Wild. It's been pushed out of two calendar years. This is something I take issue with.
Callibretto
Member
Death Stranding is announced so early to exploit the Konami fiasco, it has become part of it's marketing cycle. you can be sure that Kojima will remind us about Death Stranding once or twice every year all the way to release.
NightShift
Member
I don't mind it, sometimes I even love it. It's going to be fun speculating on what Death Stranding's about for the next 4-5 years.
Nitty_Grimes
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
So you can pre order and pay in advance (Sony psn style)
Delays do make even moderate lead times seem much worse. Being primarily a PlayStation gamer this gen has made that very apparent.
More_Badass
Member
Let me ask this. Why does it matter? There are countless other games to play and pass the time, and countless other games that will get announced and grab your interest between one game's reveal and release.
Is it merely a patience thing?
Is it merely a patience thing?
Probably not at risk of being cancelled, but FF7 Remake and TLOU2 seem pretty far off.
Teasing_Pink
Member
Just once I'd love to see a publisher do the complete opposite, and unveil their secret project with no fanfare.
Something huge that wouldn't otherwise really need advance marketing to be successful. Like seeing the first trailer for GTA6, and at the end, it being revealed it will be available in stores within a week.
I'm sure I'll never actually see this happen though.
Something huge that wouldn't otherwise really need advance marketing to be successful. Like seeing the first trailer for GTA6, and at the end, it being revealed it will be available in stores within a week.
I'm sure I'll never actually see this happen though.
It's mostly a Japanese problem by the looks of it. They love getting people hyped for years to come... glad capcom waited until last June to reveal RE7 and they're being pretty good in general with Marvel coming out this fall and announced last month.
I'd rather not know about something I'm excited about until close to release. It can be kind of draining when you see the same game at trade shows for years and then you're speculating whether the game is in trouble, your hype my die down, they show off too much of the game, you think the game is closer to completion than it really is, etc. for example FF7 remake is "a ways off "according to nomura but I really thought we'd see something this year because of the announcement in 2015 (along with gameplay) and the multi part relaese.
I'd rather not know about something I'm excited about until close to release. It can be kind of draining when you see the same game at trade shows for years and then you're speculating whether the game is in trouble, your hype my die down, they show off too much of the game, you think the game is closer to completion than it really is, etc. for example FF7 remake is "a ways off "according to nomura but I really thought we'd see something this year because of the announcement in 2015 (along with gameplay) and the multi part relaese.
Otakumegane
Member
Xenoblade2 isn't making it to 2017 how dare you try to claim that it is.
Fallout 4 was pretty close. Saturn release?
Him coming on stage and announcing NMH3 is the literal only reason I preordered a Switch so it was a good move by Nintendo, it got them a sale.
The game isn't even in development yet. I mean I am sure you will find games to play, but man.
I have a really good answer to that, and it's something I've written in depth on before.
I could see it somehow make it in Japan, but everywhere else? No fucking way.
More_Badass
Member
So hype and assumptions basically?
You don't have to be hyped and excited for something from announcement until it's out. That's what new trailers, previews, etc are for. In fact, it's completely okay to lose interest in a game and forget it exists.