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Mike Pompeo confirmed as CIA director.
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There needs to be another march if she passes.
BoboBrazil
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If this was flipped Republicans would vote no in lock step on every appointment. Dems always back down.
I don't know how you think there ever was.
Pop-O-Matic
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Fuck me, wrong thread.
RPGCrazied
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Is there a website with who voted yes/no anywhere?
How do you not dislike Perry for Secretary of Energy or Carson for HUD?
TestOfTide
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Okay, so probably spinelessness.
For comparison, how many democrats voted for other nominees? It would be weird if they conceded on Pompeo after not conceding on other picks.
That is the only one you despise? Wtf?
Hhhehehehehehe, like Trump would do that.
I think they feared the line the Trump administration seemed to be putting out, that Democrats were putting national security in jeopardy by not confirming.
metalslimer
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The Democrats that vote for sessions are dead to me.
At a certain point Trump is getting the cabinet he wants and I give leeway to some people who live in red states but not for him
At a certain point Trump is getting the cabinet he wants and I give leeway to some people who live in red states but not for him
UberTag
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Don't forget the non-voters.
You can't forgive them, either.
(And I suppose the Stein voters, too... if you can find one.)
Well you know Manchin will.
RPGCrazied
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I don't even know how you can even tell who votes yes or no. Maybe you can't.
metalslimer
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Well he was already a shit anyway. Best you can get from WV and at least will vote with dems on some things
Nah, is DeVos is really the one to look at here even more than Tillerson.
Carson and the like are pretty bad, don't get me wrong. DeVos just managed to be the worst.
Wow.
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Beat EviLore at pool.
YEAS for Pompeo included 14 Ds plus independent King. NAYS included Republican Paul plus independent Sanders. NV: Ds Blumenthal & Murphy.
https://mobile.twitter.com/senatepress/status/823702029155635202
https://mobile.twitter.com/senatepress/status/823702029155635202
They held the roll open for like two hours, but it seems to be this:
66 Y (51 R, 14 D, 1 I) 32 N (1 R, 30 D, 1 I), 2 NV (2 D)
Y: Donnelly (D-IN)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Hassan (D-NH)
Heitkamp (D-ND)
Kaine (D-VA)
King (I-ME)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Manchin (D-WV)
McCaskill (D-MO)
Reed (D-RI)
Schatz (D-HI)
Schumer (D-NY)
Shaheen (D-NH)
Warner (D-VA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
NV: Blumenthal (D-CT)
Murphy (D-CT)
RPGCrazied
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Schumer, lol. What are you doing? These people are just all talk.
RPGCrazied
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I fear the supreme court now, these fuckers don't care.
BoboBrazil
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Enjoy Ted Cruz on the supreme Court.
cpp_is_king
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TBH I haven't followed them as closely as I followed a few of the other ones. A few quick searches don't indicate anything that strikes me as particularly worrisome, certainly not as much as DeVos. Can you summarize the worst (in your opinion) aspects of them?
Also, changes to energy and HUD are more easily reversible than changes to education, which have the potential to affect an entire generation of children with long-lasting consequences.
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Perry, despite his general lack of qualification and past idiotic statements about it, came across as fairly genuine and interested in learning his new job and taking it seriously. Considering the state of the other nominees, it's pretty difficult to take issue with him at this point.
TestOfTide
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So many of these seats are safe Dem seats that I'm getting the impression that Democrats WANT Pompeo confirmed. Like not just are spineless but see a benefit to him being confirmed.
I don't want to sound too crazy, but I think this is a move by Dems to have someone they KNOW will fuck up the job of bridging the IC and Trump.
The voters are a problem too. They also learned nothing.
Plenty didn't vote at all and can't lock arms when the time comes.
Even at the fucking protests. One day when you'd think everyone would be on the same side. We still have people that don't wanna lock arms.
The politicians are spineless and unprincipled and the voters are self righteous and naive. That's the real problem with the Democratic party.
benjipwns
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http://www.senate.gov/legislative/votes.htm
https://www.govtrack.us/
have a fun enjoy (it generally takes a day for the daily record to be processed and be put up online)
You give the Democratic party to much credit. Don't, they will only disappoint you like they did in November.
And the CIA are now the partisan "good guys." Unelected, sovereignty-interfering good guys.
The funny thing is, is that in principle it's a good thing that the politicians actually vote independently and not according to marching orders because someone decided that the 'party willed it.' Otherwise, you get things like the communist part of China.
The problem is when you have only two parties and only one accomplishes 'discipline.' It also illustrates why such thinking is bad: Poor policies get chosen due to bad politics.
benjipwns
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why wouldn't those earn you Democratic votes in the Senate?
TestOfTide
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The problem with the assertion that this was due to spinelessness is that when you look at the list most of them are either from safe blue seats or just won election last year so they don't have to worry about election shit for 6 years.
Which would lead me to ask: What would they be so scared of?
People not realizing what Trump did, he put all these nominees out late so they don't have to go through everything and they can blame the Dems for stonewalling. The Dems don't want to get get blame so Trump's nominees are pushed through faster than ever skipping the ethics committee.
This fucker Trump....
benjipwns
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What? All of Trump's nominees except three (VA, Ag, Trade Rep) were announced before Christmas.
He can't exactly appoint them until he was actually sworn in as President you know.
TestOfTide
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He mentioned names, but he didn't officially nominate them until it was too late to put them through ethics checks.
benjipwns
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What? Congress can take all the time they want.
Kathleen Sebelius wasn't nominated until February 28th and wasn't confirmed until April 28th. And that wasn't Republicans obstructing, it was Congress just being slow.
PepsimanVsJoe
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I'd really love to hear a good explanation as to why so many dems voted this shitsack in.
That is why Spicer is saying this?
He said the senate dems are stalling. When you do shit like that, that put pressure on the Dems to go ahead as fast as they can.
BoboBrazil
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Only decent reason I can think of is picking a hill to fight on and it's DeVos, Sessions, or his EPA pick.
Me too, just emailed Feinstein to ask that.
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ratcliffja
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The problem is that Democrats' compromise only makes the Republicans stronger. The Democrats making concessions never results in the Republicans conceding in other ways.
benjipwns
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Because his whole job is to propagandize on behalf of the White House in favor of its agenda/against its political opponents?
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