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Kojima: Overly sexualized women in DS will be given a deep background story"
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Jimmyfenix
Member
Do people really believe this ?
"i have to be naked or i will die"
Nice story you got there
Not this time, Kojima... just outright admit if you're gonna sexualise the characters... don't hide behind a shield of white armour.
Lol seriously, the first time I came across this I
stared for a while
MorshuTheTrader
Neo Member
Lol I'm actually excited to see what crazy excuse is next. I'm hoping for something like her bikini is a high tech life support system and will overheat if covered by anything.
TheGameshark
Member
LMAO dude not again with this shit
mocolostrocolos
Member
Nice ain't deep.
Finale Fireworker
Member
Zero faith in this proclamation.
Maybe design and write your female characters the same way you design and write your male ones instead of making something deeply problematic and then trying to reverse-engineer justification for it.
MGS 1-3 had incredibly strong women. They were doctors, analysts, and soldiers. They had guilts and goals and skills. They were intelligent, cunning, and funny. They were multi-cultural. They were heroes, they were villains, they were complex and they were all extremely different from one another.
Then we had Quiet. And only Quiet. How far we have come.
Maybe design and write your female characters the same way you design and write your male ones instead of making something deeply problematic and then trying to reverse-engineer justification for it.
MGS 1-3 had incredibly strong women. They were doctors, analysts, and soldiers. They had guilts and goals and skills. They were intelligent, cunning, and funny. They were multi-cultural. They were heroes, they were villains, they were complex and they were all extremely different from one another.
Then we had Quiet. And only Quiet. How far we have come.
Heckler456
Banned
I hear it, lol.
Lunafreya Nox Fleuret
Member
Kojima gonna Kojima and that's what I love about him.
OverBlood 3
Banned
B-b-b-but snake playing in the puddles *vomits*
Vindicator
Member
Nanomachines, daughter...
Sakura
Member
I mean, ultimately, the reason they are overly sexualised is because they were designed that way. Really all you are doing is creating a sexy character, and then coming up with reasons to justify it. You can make as deep a background story as you want, but that's not really going to appease the people who don't like those designs.
That being said I have no problem with characters like Quiet so keep them coming.
That being said I have no problem with characters like Quiet so keep them coming.
Even Dead or Alive ladies have more backstory than Quiet.
abstract alien
Member
Sexual women exist in this world Kojima, some solely because they like it and nothing more. No reasons needed, but do what you like.
Death Stranding day 1.
Death Stranding day 1.
chrisPjelly
Member
I have a big suspicion Quiet was initially supposed to be a """scarred""" rape victim
but fellow devs and higher ups told Kojima that was fucking stupid
or transgender Chico
Vlaphor
Member
I'm not sure how I feel about this. Quiet was my favorite part of MGSV, but even I'll admit that her backstory was flimsy. Fanservice for fanservice sake is fine, but trying to justify it with a story rarely works out, unless everything around the justification is just as bonkers as the justification itself.
Still, props for Kojima for keeping the big breast dream alive. The only thing I would change about him is that he should give some attention to the butt as well.
It looks like she's wearing a g-string, but that it's flush with the rest of her butt. That's not how butts work, unless there is no butt to speak of.
Still, props for Kojima for keeping the big breast dream alive. The only thing I would change about him is that he should give some attention to the butt as well.
It looks like she's wearing a g-string, but that it's flush with the rest of her butt. That's not how butts work, unless there is no butt to speak of.
we just need to see baby got back.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
TheStruggler
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lol the same way quiet did right....lmfao
Angry Fork
Member
Kojima oversexualizes men in his games more than women, I don't see the big deal.
djplaeskool
Member
lol
Kojima gonna Kojima, and you all should know this by now.
DS will probably also be chock-full of suspiciously gratuitous male ass shots too.
Kojima gonna Kojima, and you all should know this by now.
DS will probably also be chock-full of suspiciously gratuitous male ass shots too.
psychowave
Member
Boy I really, really dislike Kojima.
valkillmore
Member
What a strange thing to come out and talk about. It needs to be asked, why sexualized women are a plot point or in there for a reason in the first place. To me that's the more pressing question, not 'Why is there not a story arc for her giant boobs.'
Novel Mike
Member
The sad part is that there is parts of her actual character and development that are truly interesting and inspiring. Specifically
That Quiet was the one who was originally trying to kill you at the start of the game and it was only after losing to you twice that she really begins to respect you and switches sides. I really wish there was a fleshed out character here who we got to see as a normal soldier performing a mission who eventually comes to respect (hell even love) the enemy shes sent to kill and ends up betraying her leaders/group because of it. Imagine if MGSV started out with you playing as her, sneaking into the hospital to kill BB then the events of the game unfold and the rest of the game fleshing out her character and how she feels and develops as a person. There is a really interesting story that could have been told here...
TheJollyCorner
Member
Kojimaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Hey, it didn't just go "MGS3 -> Quiet". We had the BnB unit in-between, remember? Those fantastically well realized characters.
Remember all of the guilt you felt over killing them when Drebin told your their awful backstories instead of having those stories told to you more organically? The guilt over making them do sexy photo shoots?
Lunafreya Nox Fleuret
Member
I hope he gets Stefanie to play in DS because that would be awesome.
AcademicSaucer
Member
Glad they are letting Kojima do his thing.
mentallyinept
Banned
Sigh, Kojima.
I love your games but when are you going to learn that female characters can be sexy while wearing situationally appropriate clothing like their male counterparts.
Quiet was an awesome character with a cool story, but no one gives a shit when you have her parading around in a bikini with fishnet stockings taking showers and shit in a voyeuristic cage.
I love your games but when are you going to learn that female characters can be sexy while wearing situationally appropriate clothing like their male counterparts.
Quiet was an awesome character with a cool story, but no one gives a shit when you have her parading around in a bikini with fishnet stockings taking showers and shit in a voyeuristic cage.