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Hearthstone |OT8| Elise's Extremely Irresponsible Field Trip To Un'Goro

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Yaboosh

Super Sleuth
I'm excited about wild post rotation. It's already fun, but it's going to be so different now. A heroic wild brawl sounds like a ton of fun to watch streamers struggle with.
 

wiibomb

Member
http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/20475356

Wow! Lots of info.

Azure Drake, sylvanas and rag, PO, conceal and ice Lance out, auctioneer still in.

Full dust refunds even if you don't dust them!


No more adventures. Instead expansions will come with single player content. 3 expansions a year. No more guaranteed cards.

New year is the year of the mammoth.

those are very huge changes...

makes me sad I won't be having any guaranteed cards, I mean, adventures granted a safe way to get some collection to play, now everything will be hard RNG based.

I need to know if they plan on releasing a new way of rewards, because as of this, the way to build a collection without spending money will become way too steep.

oh and also! does that mean I can craft free sylvannas now? since they are offering full refunds later, (may be a gold rag even)
 

Yaboosh

Super Sleuth
those are very huge changes...

makes me sad I won't be having any guaranteed cards, I mean, adventures granted a safe way to get some collection to play, now everything will be hard RNG based.

I need to know if they plan on releasing a new way of rewards, because as of this, the way to build a collection without spending money will become way too steep.

oh and also! does that mean I can craft free sylvannas now? since they are offering full refunds later, (may be a gold rag even)


Yes craft sylvanas and rag if you can at all afford it.


Also, at this rate DrakOp will have to use itself to activate.
 

Ladekabel

Member
Oh man, getting the dust without the dusting cards?

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The other stuff makes the Year of the Mammoth already more exciting than the Year of the Kraken to me. Could've have gone away with Auctioneer though. It's not only Rogue + Conceal that make this card fun & interactive *cough*Druid*cough*.
 

JesseZao

Member
Time to craft goldens of all the "hall of fame" cards for "free!"

I think Valeera is still cooler based on the art alone. Wish the new hero wasn't so dark and far away.
 

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
those are very huge changes...

makes me sad I won't be having any guaranteed cards, I mean, adventures granted a safe way to get some collection to play, now everything will be hard RNG based.

I need to know if they plan on releasing a new way of rewards, because as of this, the way to build a collection without spending money will become way too steep.

oh and also! does that mean I can craft free sylvannas now? since they are offering full refunds later, (may be a gold rag even)
Daily log in bonuses are coming, and I think the new singleplayer missions give rewards too (and this also explains the job posting that listed Adventures and "Missions" separately).
 

wiibomb

Member
Yes craft sylvanas and rag if you can at all afford it.


Also, at this rate DrakOp will have to use itself to activate.

given that I have a lot of dust, I'll craft sylvannas and a golden rag...

may be other ones as well, they will be basically free

so I can craft silvanas for free now?

if you have the dust and can wait for the rotations to give you the dust, yeah

Daily log in bonuses are coming, and I think the new singleplayer missions give rewards too (and this also explains the job posting that listed Adventures and "Missions" separately).

I really hope for that, trying to get gold for packs is really tiresome now.

although, the missions could be the part they are implementing from the single player on the expansions.
 
That's over 3400 dust for me. I currently have 4000 and will probably be over 5000 when the next expansion launches. I wonder how Blizz is planning to drain the extra dust from the system.
 

JesseZao

Member
No more adventures...:(

Guess that's what let them bump the release cycle. Wonder if we'll get the equivalent of one adventure with the free single player content attached to expansions by years end.
 

JesseZao

Member
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I suppose this confirms Ungoro for expansion 1. 2 looks like (aquatic?) arcane magic or lich king runes. 3 is going to be a thieves guild or cutpurse theme?
 

ZealousD

Makes world leading predictions like "The sun will rise tomorrow"
I already had a Golden Sylvanas, a Golden Ragnaros, 2 Golden Azure Drakes, 2 Golden PO's, 2 Golden Ice Lances, and a Golden Conceal. Bow before my amazing dust refund! Also I guess if you have enough dust in the bank, you can basically craft the gold versions of these cards with essentially zero lost in dust now, which is pretty nice.

Also, why does Blizzard hate Garona so much? Fucking Maiev.... Druid stays losing for alternate heroes too. I want a Tauren hero, is that too much to ask? T_T

Wonder if this will let Kripp push the button.

There's always a chance that they will continue to do nerfs for classic cards into the future. I don't think Kripp will push the button.
 
Okay let's see:

Golden Ragnaros-3200
Azure Drake(2) - 200
Conceal (2) - 100
Ice lance (2) - 100
PO (2) - 100

Not bad. Not bad at all. Pretty bummed about rag, opening that pack was hype as hell.
 

wiibomb

Member
since I never came around to crafting my own sylvannas, I will just have a refund of 2040 dust... no golden versions for me.

that is of course, without the investment I'll do to craft the some of them

so you get 3200 if you decide to dust your rag ( 1600+1600)?

no, 1600 + 400, no bonus from disenchanting
 

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
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I suppose this confirms Ungoro for expansion 1. 2 looks like (aquatic?) arcane magic or lich king runes. 3 is going to be a thieves guild or cutpurse theme?

Wait, does that imply the rotation is happening before the new set?
 
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thepotatoman

Unconfirmed Member
Bummed to see no rebuffing and rotating of the cards they nuked last year, but at least they're not nuking stuff this time.
 
Kinda surprised at the car choices, cant say I ever saw anyone use conceal. Atill it all sounds interesting and I find it hard to complain considering ive out a shit load of time into the game and paid no more and £5.

They really should discount the older adventures though cos there is no way im dropping £45+ on outdated staff
 

wiibomb

Member
Kinda surprised at the car choices, cant say I ever saw anyone use conceal. Atill it all sounds interesting and I find it hard to complain considering ive out a shit load of time into the game and paid no more and £5.

They really should discount the older adventures though cos there is no way im dropping £45+ on outdated staff

I did see it a lot, and it was a pain in the ass since I couldn't deal with the auctioneer unless I wanted to burn a huge AoE to deal with just 1 or 2 minions
 

Papercuts

fired zero bullets in the orphanage.
Kinda sucks auctioneer and leeroy aren't rotating too.

I've been taking a pretty long break from HS lately but I like the dust refund. Definitely gonna craft golden rag and syl for the hell of it.
 

Yoshichan

And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
So instead, we're just going to give you the dust, and you can keep the cards!

Up to the maximum number of cards you could put in a deck, we will give you the full dust value of any cards you have that are being added to the Hall of Fame set. (Yes, that means if you have at least one Golden Ragnaros, you'll get 3200 dust!) The dust will be automatically awarded upon log-in once the Year of the Mammoth begins.


The only good part about this whole thing. Fucking worthless scum.

But yeah I'll enjoy my 20k worth of dust, thanks assholes.

edit: nevermind. MAIEV, MY GODDESS. HOLY SHIT REDEEMED.
 

wiibomb

Member
But the first set is in Q2 whereas the year shift is in Q1.

well Q2 starts with april no? if the rotation starts at the end of Q1 it is almost the same as the expansion. I mean, it is just speculation at this point, but I am expecting it to be a very similar case to WOTG where it started in (almost, but not so) Q2 (March 28th, 2016)
 

Iryx

Member
Triple expansion is a surprise, nice to see there will be mini-adventures as single player content. Classic Set Banlist is a good idea, sad that Ice Block isn't the mage card getting the axe. Dust refund is nice, 5420 bonus dust for me.
 
The only good part about this whole thing. Fucking worthless scum.

But yeah I'll enjoy my 20k worth of dust, thanks assholes.

You get to keep the cards, you get a complete dust refund, and you won't face the same cards in the majority of decks.

And on top of all of that? You can still play your cards in wild. Chill out man.
 

hollomat

Banned
Very happy about the dust decision. I have golden and regular Sylvanas and regular ragnaros.

I wonder how it's going to work though? Theoretically shouldn't I just craft golden versions of all the cards that will be leaving standard since I can keep them and get the dust back?
 

wiibomb

Member
Very happy about the dust decision. I have golden and regular Sylvanas and regular ragnaros.

I wonder how it's going to work though? Theoretically shouldn't I just craft golden versions of all the cards that will be leaving standard since I can keep them and get the dust back?
If you own a regular Ragnaros and a golden Ragnaros, you will get full dust for just the golden version.
For non-Legendaries, if you own two Golden copies of them, you'll receive dust for both of the Goldens.

from reddit
 

Yaboosh

Super Sleuth
If you can still disenchant the rag, crafting a gold one if you have a normal one should profit you 1600 dust.



And the most possible dust from this is 3200+3200+800+160+160+160. So 7680 dust if you have goldens of all these cards.

Im due to get 3520.
 

hollomat

Banned
from reddit

In this case it doesn't matter at all whether or not you have the cards. Everyone here should just use dust to craft all the cards and golden versions as well since you will be refunded the dust and get to keep the cards.

Thinking about it now I'm definitely not a fan of this decision. I currently have normal rag, normal sylvanas and gold sylvanas. But that means nothing cause someone without any of those can just craft them, get the dust back, and get to keep the cards. It only really hurts anyone who doesn't have enough dust prior to the expansion to craft them.
 

wiibomb

Member
If you can still disenchant the rag, crafting a gold one if you have a normal one should profit you 1600 dust.

I believe those cards won't have the bonus disenchanting dust, just normal

In this case it doesn't matter at all whether or not you have the cards. Everyone here should just use dust to craft all the cards and golden versions as well since you will be refunded the dust and get to keep the cards.

no, just craft either the golden or the normal ones, crafting all 4 (2 normal, 2 golden) diminishes the profit
 

Yoshichan

And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Wait, I'm super confused about how much Blizzard will actually give me... what's this about "how much a deck can contain"?

6x Azure Drake
2x Azure Drake (Gold)

x1 Sylvanas (Gold)

x1 Ragnaros (Gold)
 
If you can still disenchant the rag, crafting a gold one if you have a normal one should profit you 1600 dust.



And the most possible dust from this is 3200+3200+800+160+160+160. So 7680 dust if you have goldens of all these cards.

Im due to get 3520.

This is what I'm thinking. Craft golden Rag for 3200, recieve 3200 back and the disenchant for 1600. Is this what they mean by full refund? 1600 for normal Legendaries and 3200 for golden ones?

So basically if you can come up with 7200 dust, you could craft golden Rag and Sylvanys and then get the full refund + 2 x 1600 in disenchanting for a profit of 3200. Is this the correct interpretation?
 
So essentially I should be crafting goldens of all the card that are rotating out?

Also if, say you have a golden Rag and a normal Rag, do you get dust for both?

Edit: Found it on Reddit from Zeriyah.

That is correct for the Legendaries. If you own a regular Ragnaros and a golden Ragnaros, you will get full dust for just the golden version.
For non-Legendaries, if you own two Golden copies of them, you'll receive dust for both of the Goldens.
 

Yaboosh

Super Sleuth
I only have 2600 dust right now so have to do some saving up.



Crafting a golden legendary should actually only happen if you want the golden legendary.

You gain 1600 dust either way if you de the golden.
 
Woah, very generous. I feel way better about crafting Sylvannas and Ragnaros for dust now. :-D

As a Wild-only player, I'm very happy. I might start playing again between this and the easier ladder climb.

There should be more five drop options for players,
Then maybe you guys should make some...

This move allows Freeze Mage to continue existing in Wild, while creating more variety in Standard.
Create more deck types by deleting some. Ok.
 
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