While the economic costs are undoubtedly to high to sanction the US it would be quite interesting to see how fast corporate america would kick Trump out of the white house when they can't sell in europe.
Well you will get your wish, because this is simply not possible for EU members.I would love to see EU nations stand in solidarity and refuse to negotiate bilateral trade deals with the US.
You might want to check up how the EU actually works, because no single country can dictate anything. There are veto possibilities all over the place. If one country doesn't want to do something, there is a good chance they can stop that thing if they really want to. So no, Germany doesn't dominate everything. It does however play a major leading role due to their economic size and impact.I don't know. I consider the EU sort of a German fourth reich because it has dominated almost all spheres of influence. The EU expanded far too quick, and incorporated too many countries who do not have the same economic or social policies. Think of Greece and Spain and Portugal. A few months back there was talk of Germany wanting to sanction Spain and Portugal for not doing enough to decrease deficits.
An economic union makes sense if everyone shares the same mentality. Sure you can bring in different nations. One of the reason Germany wanted more Eastern European or Balkan countries was to get cheaper migrants and workforce to compete with the US/Mexico and China and India. Free movement both had benefits and disadvantages. Look how much the Brits hate the influx of Poles, how much French and Italian farmers hate how their industries have been affected by cheaper agriculture from elsewhere. Greece still hasn't recovered and it is struggling because as an EU nation, refugees and migrants think if they reach Greece they can get to Berlin and Paris and London easily. Without the UK though, and incressing fragmentation, we might see the decline of this super state back into a sensible union, with a more unified economic and possibly even military union.
As for OP, wtf is Bannon even doing meeting with these groups. Even worse is how the US is alienating their closest allies to cozy up to Russia.
The US doesn't have a veto on sanctions (unless they go through the UN). How do you think we get sanctions onto Russia.Wouldn't US veto that anyway?
The US doesn't have a veto on sanctions (unless they go through the UN). How do you think we get sanctions onto Russia.
You do realize europeans can sanction whoever they want and that the US president does not dictates who we sanction right?Fair
but that was Obama iirc
You do realize europeans can sanction whoever they want and that the US president does not dictates who we sanction right?
EU put sanctions on Russia because it wanted to. Not because Obama said so.
If I was an EU official, I would secretly draft up plans for sanctions against the US right about now. I agree with labeling the US government a hostile nation. and then start with freezing any bank assets of anyone associated with Trump in Europe. Then I would escalate this to tariffs on American goods. Then escalate from there
I would love to see Europe actually do this
But I live in southeast Missouri and good our economy sucks now and if the economy starts to fucking suck, Austerity rears it's ugly head and SSI/Medicaid would get cut
No, sanctions are not warranted even without thinking about the enormous self harm it would cause.If I was an EU official, I would secretly draft up plans for sanctions against the US right about now. I agree with labeling the US government a hostile nation. and then start with freezing any bank assets of anyone associated with Trump in Europe. Then I would escalate this to tariffs on American goods. Then escalate from there
I would love to see Europe actually do this
But I live in southeast Missouri and good our economy sucks now and if the economy starts to fucking suck, Austerity rears it's ugly head and SSI/Medicaid would get cut
If I was an EU official, I would secretly draft up plans for sanctions against the US right about now. I agree with labeling the US government a hostile nation. and then start with freezing any bank assets of anyone associated with Trump in Europe. Then I would escalate this to tariffs on American goods. Then escalate from there
I would love to see Europe actually do this
But I live in southeast Missouri and good our economy sucks now and if the economy starts to fucking suck, Austerity rears it's ugly head and SSI/Medicaid would get cut
You really want a World War, then?
I don't know. I consider the EU sort of a German fourth reich because it has dominated almost all spheres of influence. The EU expanded far too quick, and incorporated too many countries who do not have the same economic or social policies. Think of Greece and Spain and Portugal. A few months back there was talk of Germany wanting to sanction Spain and Portugal for not doing enough to decrease deficits.
An economic union makes sense if everyone shares the same mentality. Sure you can bring in different nations. One of the reason Germany wanted more Eastern European or Balkan countries was to get cheaper migrants and workforce to compete with the US/Mexico and China and India. Free movement both had benefits and disadvantages. Look how much the Brits hate the influx of Poles, how much French and Italian farmers hate how their industries have been affected by cheaper agriculture from elsewhere. Greece still hasn't recovered and it is struggling because as an EU nation, refugees and migrants think if they reach Greece they can get to Berlin and Paris and London easily. Without the UK though, and incressing fragmentation, we might see the decline of this super state back into a sensible union, with a more unified economic and possibly even military union.
As for OP, wtf is Bannon even doing meeting with these groups. Even worse is how the US is alienating their closest allies to cozy up to Russia.
Please don't use that term.The EU being attacked by the second most hated administration (Putin being first) is a great way to strengthen the EU. If the polls are correct, Germany is already moving away from nationalist populism. Maybe we can even get some non austerity governments elected to finally help the PIGS partners in the union.
good one!so more like NOTO?
I don't know. I consider the EU sort of a German fourth reich because it has dominated almost all spheres of influence. The EU expanded far too quick, and incorporated too many countries who do not have the same economic or social policies. Think of Greece and Spain and Portugal. A few months back there was talk of Germany wanting to sanction Spain and Portugal for not doing enough to decrease deficits.
An economic union makes sense if everyone shares the same mentality. Sure you can bring in different nations. One of the reason Germany wanted more Eastern European or Balkan countries was to get cheaper migrants and workforce to compete with the US/Mexico and China and India. Free movement both had benefits and disadvantages. Look how much the Brits hate the influx of Poles, how much French and Italian farmers hate how their industries have been affected by cheaper agriculture from elsewhere. Greece still hasn't recovered and it is struggling because as an EU nation, refugees and migrants think if they reach Greece they can get to Berlin and Paris and London easily. Without the UK though, and incressing fragmentation, we might see the decline of this super state back into a sensible union, with a more unified economic and possibly even military union.
As for OP, wtf is Bannon even doing meeting with these groups. Even worse is how the US is alienating their closest allies to cozy up to Russia.
If I was an EU official, I would secretly draft up plans for sanctions against the US right about now. I agree with labeling the US government a hostile nation. and then start with freezing any bank assets of anyone associated with Trump in Europe. Then I would escalate this to tariffs on American goods. Then escalate from there
I would love to see Europe actually do this
But I live in southeast Missouri and good our economy sucks now and if the economy starts to fucking suck, Austerity rears it's ugly head and SSI/Medicaid would get cut
Please don't use that term.
What exactly would the EU do to the US? Sanctions????
Please stop trying to tear the world apart.
well... for a start just do the same things they do to EU citizens in the US... harass them at the airport.
There are lots of "soft" sanctions one could apply. Maybe apply some sort of eu-wide regulation that hits US companies extra hard, or apply Work-to-rule... the possibilities are endless!
We shouldn't do that. With Trump going insane and generally speaking security measures in the US being crazy, Europe should position itself as a rational actor that won't do stupid stuff like harassing people at airports. Promoting cooperation, human rights, freedom etc. is the only way to make Europe and the world a better place.