Hey I'm with you - taking it out is a bad move.
But the power wheel is the thing you love most about Mass Effect.... really?!
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Mass Effect: Andromeda - Previews and hands-on impressions
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Hey I'm with you - taking it out is a bad move.
But the power wheel is the thing you love most about Mass Effect.... really?!
Heckler456
Banned
This is what we know. We also know that even the least talkative companion in Andromeda has more lines than the most talkative companion in ME3. So, really, if you're already judging her character, then you're pretty superficial in my eyes.
In what way, exactly? How is Scott more generic than buzzcut/stubble Mark Vanderloo, in terms of actual features that you can point to? You remember him... because he's been with us for 10 year.
I mean she's just a character. From everything I've seen of her including the video with her voice actress, she looks pretty damn annoying.
If that makes me superficial, so be it.
Have you never judged a video game character by how they look or off limited video footage? you called OG Shep "generic action hero joe" - did you think that when he was first shown?
Lunch_Box_
Neo Member
Can't win can they. When trying to make a 'Normal' face in the Ryders it's deemed too generic and boring, when trying to deviate from that (PeeBee) people see it as dumb and horrible.
Of course no one complains about the Turian and Krogan faces looking stupid, but as soon as the Asari get thrown into the mix their faces are scrutinized just because they similar to human faces. Asari are still an alien species, I for one am glad they are using a different face type for PeeBee, whether you like it or not is up to you but don't let it be the defining factor on your opinion of the game.
Just my two cents.
Of course no one complains about the Turian and Krogan faces looking stupid, but as soon as the Asari get thrown into the mix their faces are scrutinized just because they similar to human faces. Asari are still an alien species, I for one am glad they are using a different face type for PeeBee, whether you like it or not is up to you but don't let it be the defining factor on your opinion of the game.
Just my two cents.
We also know https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAm1WUC7Bcw
She's the character Bioware have promoted the most, and they've never presented her as anything except a zany ball of annoyance.
She might be a well written character, but that doesn't mean I'll like her. Sera was a well written character, but that didn't really help - and at least with Sera she was a very optional character in a large cast, rather than an apparently significant and obligatory character in a small one..
PC builds with Xbox controllers.
Heckler456
Banned
I didn't think that, no. I was using that rhetorically.
And yeah, I judge them internally, but I don't outwardly write them off like certain people here are doing. In terms of Bioware specifically, I gave characters like Sera/Leliana/Jack/Vega a chance despite my preconceived notions, and I ended up appreciating them for what they were. But you'll never catch me going into a thread just to say "I hate this person" or "I hate that".
How is she being "zany"
Why is zany inherently bad? Shouldn't it rest on the execution, which is something you won't find out until the actual game is released? As to "annoying", nothing shown thus far is actually annoying.
Again, we clearly know very, very little. Even the video you just linked is seconds long, out of a multiple dozen hour game. Which is why it's profoundly superficial to judge her based on the little we know, especially in the strong words people here are using.
slappingoysters
Member
Here is another hands-on to check out - points the finger at the game engine, suggesting it has held back the generation leap in visual quality. But generally positive
The Good and Bad of Mass Effect Andromeda
This is also on front page of Switch reddit - Door certainly not closed for Mass Effect Andromeda on Nintendo Switch says BioWare
But I have me doubts on that. How much would the Switch have to sell to warrant a port?
The Good and Bad of Mass Effect Andromeda
This is also on front page of Switch reddit - Door certainly not closed for Mass Effect Andromeda on Nintendo Switch says BioWare
But I have me doubts on that. How much would the Switch have to sell to warrant a port?
texhnolyze
Banned
So you prefer every companions to be loveable, super nice happy go lucky and all?
nelsonroyale
Member
Sure I know, I have done martial arts in the past and also been bboying for over a decade. I understand the mechanics of falling well enough. I still think it looks rather silly, but if they are going for humour, which they seem to be, I am fine with it.
Why put them there in the first place then ? If you make a system reliant on looting ton of thing (crafting) I'm gonna loot the shit out of everything I see just in case. It's especially true in Witcher which as so many different crafting ingredients that you can't possibly know how important they are and how many you may need.
Yeah, really. Is there another TPS that has something similar?
Won't feel the same without it.
Heckler456
Banned
If you watch the Kinda Funny impression video, they actually do say that there seems to be a far more humorous tone in the game. I'm personally alright with that, even a little excited.
Anyway, I just wanted to point out that it was motion captured, at which point... Like, what are we complaining about here? What do you want them to do, they're literally copying the movement of two people falling.
BrassDragon
Member
Moment-to-moment gameplay looks good and the increased banter / crew member activity outside of missions sounds wonderful.
Respeccing mid-combat takes away so much weight from your skill choices for the sake of, what..? Feeling a little more powerful? One of the tricks that Diablo III does to keep it in check is to synergize skills with equipment so it's usually optimal to keep within a certain range of skills unless you want to go back to town and switch up all your gear. I wonder if Andromeda has some of that... it seems like you'd need it for balance purposes. Otherwise... yikes.
I never had very high hopes for the animation and face design because it's just not what BioWare is good at. It's just a bit disappointing the next gen technology didn't help them get it right but I can live with it as I have with every Dragon Age and Mass Effect game before this.
The real thing that worries me are the reports of bugginess in the preview build a few weeks out from launch. Hopefully the inevitable bugs just give us some funny memes instead of, say, breaking the critical path 10 hours in.
Respeccing mid-combat takes away so much weight from your skill choices for the sake of, what..? Feeling a little more powerful? One of the tricks that Diablo III does to keep it in check is to synergize skills with equipment so it's usually optimal to keep within a certain range of skills unless you want to go back to town and switch up all your gear. I wonder if Andromeda has some of that... it seems like you'd need it for balance purposes. Otherwise... yikes.
I never had very high hopes for the animation and face design because it's just not what BioWare is good at. It's just a bit disappointing the next gen technology didn't help them get it right but I can live with it as I have with every Dragon Age and Mass Effect game before this.
The real thing that worries me are the reports of bugginess in the preview build a few weeks out from launch. Hopefully the inevitable bugs just give us some funny memes instead of, say, breaking the critical path 10 hours in.
Ammogeddon
Member
Good to hear the positive impressions, can't wait to jump in.
I'm not sure which edition to go for. The top tier one seems to give extra boosts for co-op, not fussed about that.
Not sure about this latest Sara Ryder shot
I'm not sure which edition to go for. The top tier one seems to give extra boosts for co-op, not fussed about that.
Not sure about this latest Sara Ryder shot
"impulsive, quirky" "completely goofy" "pathologically independent but manages to maintain a loose, even friendly spirit"
Zany is probably not inherently bad as an objective standard. My long experience of being me suggests that its bad as far as being a character that won't annoy me.
We know quite a bit. Certainly plenty of people seem to have already started making marriage proposals to characters we know much less about, but no one seems to have a go at them.
What? If anything I'd probably be more favourable towards Peebee if she was less "happy go lucky".
Good to hear the positive impressions, can't wait to jump in.
I'm not sure which edition to go for. The top tier one seems to give extra boosts for co-op, not fussed about that.
Not sure about this latest Sara Ryder shot
Greenmangaming has it for 45 bucks.
texhnolyze
Banned
What I meant is not everyone has to be lovable. Morrigan was annoying, Zack was annoying, but they're necessary to create balance. It'll be a boring team otherwise.
You can still initiate combos. Watch their latest gameplay series video.
Always-honest
Banned
Yeah curious how this works. Because this was the best gameplay mechanic of the series.
Heckler456
Banned
Call me crazy, but I don't find issue with people being positive. I personally do find issue with people taking a hot, steamy dump on the years long work of character artists, modelers, shading artists, voice actor, writers, ... before actually seeing what they're taking a dump on, let alone giving it its fair due. I think that's wrong.
As to the zany-conundrum, you're the one describing her as zany. At which point you're almost looking to take offense, seeing as in your own personal experience, zany seems to have an exclusively negative connotation. You can say what you want, but again, we actually know jack-shit about her as a character. The way she starts out will also probably not be the way she is even by the end of the first half of the game.
You can still tell your companions to attack a certain target. Some of your abilities also "prime" a target for a combo "detonation". So you can prime a certain target with whatever ability, and tell you companions to attack them, at which point they'll do their ability, if available. Maybe they'll also do it automatically, but it really remains to be seen.
Salty Rice
Member
The more i hear this game has too much things im underwhelmed and disappointed by.
I think im not gonna getting it Day 1 anymore especially with Horizon, Zelda and Nier coming next month.
I can wait this time. Sorry my Sara "Butterface" Ryder.
I think im not gonna getting it Day 1 anymore especially with Horizon, Zelda and Nier coming next month.
I can wait this time. Sorry my Sara "Butterface" Ryder.
Um, Shepherd is a carbon copy of the super model they used for him. He looks utterly unique because he's such a close replica of an incredibly attractive guy with unique features. Shepherd stood out in the first mass effect.
Scott Ryder doesn't really look like his face model at all. He's certainly not the carbon copy Shepherd was - it looks like he was inspired by the face model, not a carbon copy like Shepherd was. That's good in that he doesn't stand out amongst the other characters like Shepherd did, but bad because he looks more like a game character and less unique.
Heckler456
Banned
They slightly adjusted face scans. To say that they look nothing alike is profoundly disingenuous.
Monocle
Member
I remember that his features immediately stood out. It wasn't long before I associated his face with Mass Effect.
John Kowalski
Banned
Scott looks like some One Direction singer who's trying to get space famous after his music career went under
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
So Eurogamer confirms there's a "Mass Effect Archives" save file upload system not unlike Dragon Age Keep, mainly to upload your Andromeda save for post Andromeda games.
Yeah, caught that as well. I'm all for it; Keep was surprisingly well done imho; I have no issues if they expand on that concept.
Positive.
Heckler456
Banned
Non are outright negative. Some of some qualms regarding some decisions in regard to the combat (powerwheel being gone) and some awkward animations. Most range from somewhat positive to very positive to gushing (Kinda Funny).
masterkajo
Member
Sounds good. I liked the keep and to easily import a varied save in DA:I. Now they just have to make meaningful decisions count in next games.
prag16
Banned
Was gonna say this. In motion it's nothing bad. Only the one freeze frame of Scott looks lousy and mannequin-like. Man. Some of you guys will latch onto anything for shitting purposes.
BW never does Season Pass. They do individual releases for 15-20€ pop and too often DLC is way too crucial for main narrative of game making them feel mandatory.
Full GIF for slightly more context:
It's like he starts to feel some emotion and tries to show it off, but course corrects back into blank look :/
Edit:
Pointing finger at FrostBite 3 and saying it's reason for "poor graphics / not big enough IQ leap" between last- and current-gen? lolololo
I'm just so excited to see what sort of fun builds are possible now because of the new system.
I'm also hoping that we hear something about the Multiplayer soon. The next weekly video is about Exploration, which is amazing, so maybe the video after that is regarding the Multiplayer, or maybe that'll be a separate video no part of the same series.
And of course the MP beta/demo -- the game comes out in 4 weeks so I'm assuming that the beta/demo is going to be available in 2 weeks -- last for a week, and then a week off before launch.
I'm also hoping that we hear something about the Multiplayer soon. The next weekly video is about Exploration, which is amazing, so maybe the video after that is regarding the Multiplayer, or maybe that'll be a separate video no part of the same series.
And of course the MP beta/demo -- the game comes out in 4 weeks so I'm assuming that the beta/demo is going to be available in 2 weeks -- last for a week, and then a week off before launch.
Once i saw the default characters i'm really hoping for someone to make a tutorial on how to make male and female Shepard faces in Andromeda.
It's very hard to take seriously the work artists made on this. Male model looks feminine, female model looks masculine, some malevolent force made them create these creatures.
And please please please let the gameplay be good, from what i understand so far it shapes up to be "match a build for certain enemy" type of thing.
It's very hard to take seriously the work artists made on this. Male model looks feminine, female model looks masculine, some malevolent force made them create these creatures.
And please please please let the gameplay be good, from what i understand so far it shapes up to be "match a build for certain enemy" type of thing.
Maintenance
Member
After the wankfest that happened over the garbage DA:I, I will wait until the honeymoon period is over. If the game is good then it won't have any problem after that.
Back-In-Black
Banned
Sure, okay.
AWizardDidIt
Member
The only thing that has me kinda iffy so far is the mechanics of the favorite system. Switching specs mid combat seems like it could be clunky, but maybe I'll be wrong about that.
The loss of squadmate ability control matters to me nor at all. Since they removed the global cd, you should be able to set off combos on your own just fine. As long as the AI pulls it's weight and uses their powers semi-intelligently, I don't see how that's a big negative
The loss of squadmate ability control matters to me nor at all. Since they removed the global cd, you should be able to set off combos on your own just fine. As long as the AI pulls it's weight and uses their powers semi-intelligently, I don't see how that's a big negative
cripterion
Member
The game is sounding great but lmfao, what the fuck is this
Who saw this and went "done!"
lol. the fuck!
EDIT : after watching the gif, his expression gives the vibe that she fell on his sword or something. The way it's animated makes it seem so too.
Still, these faces are hilarious.
"In and Out of Cover: Mass Effect is a cover-based third-person shooter, and this was a bit hit and miss for me. Sometimes my character would instinctively hug into some cover like no other approach had ever been considered. Other times she would stand there eating bullets like a Muppet as I fumbled at the controls. This was the one bit of the movement and combat experience I was having troubles with."
Ugh, this is worrisome for me. Can't stand automatic cover system.
TC McQueen
Member
Honestly, I'm not sure what the fuck is going on at Bioware, because it really feels like someone should've either A) pointed out that a lot of the female face models look really bad at certain angles or B) made sure their animators/screencap guys didn't use the worst angles. Maybe they just got tunnel vision because they've been working on this stuff for years, but it's weird that they're doing worse stuff than they were 7 years ago.Good to hear the positive impressions, can't wait to jump in.
I'm not sure which edition to go for. The top tier one seems to give extra boosts for co-op, not fussed about that.
Not sure about this latest Sara Ryder shot
It's kind of bad when the Turian chick is the one that looks best because they actually modeled her face properly, instead of whatever the fuck they did to Sara Ryder and Peebee's face.
Heckler456
Banned
This is approaching navel-gazing levels.