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Mass Effect: Andromeda - EA/Origin Access trial coming March 16th - 10 hour trial

Madness

Member
Regarding romances:

If that leak regarding who can romance who is true, then I'll be pretty fucking irritated. I knew it was wishful thinking that Cora could be bi, but for MaleRyder to have access to her as well as PeeBee and Vetra (they're both bi apparently), while FemRyder has access to Liam and Suvi exclusively is such horseshit. I wanted either Vetra or PeeBee to be female only so we could have a unique dialogue with a companion, but alas FeMC players have to take another L. Ugh.

Romance spoilers
What? Only Cora and Liam are exclusively straight aka Ashley and Kaidan of ME1, and Suvi and Gil are exclusively Lesbian and Gay. The rest are all bi. So how did FemRyder take an L here?
 

denx

Member
Is it just me or the MP in this game is WAY more difficult than ME3's MP? I played a mission on bronze and me and my squad were obliterated by the 6th wave. I don't remember ME3's MP being so punishing in the lower difficulties. Or maybe I just suck. :p

Anyone else kind of liking the atmosphere but kind of dislike the characters ?

I'm neutral on most characters so far, but I really like Kandros and especially Kesh.
 

JoeBoy101

Member
Anyone else kind of liking the atmosphere but kind of dislike the characters ?

The companions are somewhat bland, outside of Liam, with Drak looking especially bland.

"Oh look, grunting Krogan!"

I like Peebee, but have not had enough time to make a full decision. SAM's pretty decent and I like your Dad. Past that, its a mix of give or take to take them, PLEASE! Dr. D'Terro is decent too.
 

Jarmel

Banned
It's not a fact because quality is subjective but the MC for the game is 90+ and the MP is played to this day. The MP alone bumps up the score considerably.

Who gives a fuck what the MC score is? Metacritic scores were inflated across the board at the end of the gen. The game had numerous faults not only on the writing side from almost everything pertaining to Cerberus, both the intro and ending being a hot mess, bugs galore, the side missions being revamped MP maps, issues with the animations, aspects like the scaled back Citadel, the setpieces being crappy such as the one on Thessia, the dream sequences that were tedious due to the fact you had to slowly move in them, among other things.

Who the fuck thought this was fun to play through?
 

JoeBoy101

Member
Who gives a fuck what the MC score is? Metacritic scores were inflated across the board at the end of the gen. The game had numerous faults not only on the writing side from almost everything pertaining to Cerberus, both the intro and ending being a hot mess, bugs galore, the side missions being revamped MP maps, issues with the animations, aspects like the scaled back Citadel, the setpieces being crappy such as the one on Thessia, the dream sequences that were tedious due to the fact you had to slowly move in them, among other things.

Who the fuck thought this was fun to play through?

Wha??
 
Agreed. Subtract Star Child and Kai Leng, the game really is quite good, stilted intro aside.

Yeah, the story for the majority of the game was really engaging for me, seeing how your companions reacted to the destruction of their homeworlds, and seeing all of it in person. The other HUGE issue with the game was the FemShep model change though. Their efforts to finally create a "standard" design for her meant that previous FemSheps carried over into Mass 3 no longer met the same face shape and looked completely different. They released a patch, but it never properly fixed the issue. Made it really difficult to connect with the game.
 

Andodalf

Banned
The companions are somewhat bland, outside of Liam, with Drak looking especially bland.

"Oh look, grunting Krogan!"

I like Peebee, but have not had enough time to make a full decision. SAM's pretty decent and I like your Dad. Past that, its a mix of give or take to take them, PLEASE! Dr. D'Terro is decent too.


Lol we've barely seen 5 mins of this guy. How can you possibly judge him?
 

JoeBoy101

Member
Lol we've barely seen 5 mins of this guy. How can you possibly judge him?

By using 5 minutes?

Look, I'll be happy to revise my opinion with more information and characterization, but my opinion is built entirely from his ham-handed, weird, out of place introduction that managed to eclipse the quite awkward one with PeeBee.
 

SDBurton

World's #1 Cosmonaut Enthusiast
I think the complaint is 'because x and y characters are bisexual instead of only being for my choice, their romance will be fairly bland vs more gender specific' or something along those lines. Which for bioware games wouldn't be far off, but at the same time making it gender specific doesn't necessarily make the romance any better. Wasn't Liara the most popular one and she was bi? In fact her race is general is meant to fuck both men and women.

Was busy taking care of some things, but you get what I was saying. Thank you for following up.

You do make a good point though, as I felt Josephine's romance was leagues ahead of Sera's.
 
Who gives a fuck what the MC score is? Metacritic scores were inflated across the board at the end of the gen. The game had numerous faults not only on the writing side from almost everything pertaining to Cerberus, both the intro and ending being a hot mess, bugs galore, the side missions being revamped MP maps, issues with the animations, aspects like the scaled back Citadel, the setpieces being crappy such as the one on Thessia, the dream sequences that were tedious due to the fact you had to slowly move in them, among other things.

Who the fuck thought this was fun to play through?

I didn't really have a problem with it. It's not fun but it's not meant to be it lasts for like 60 seconds. It's meant to build a story.

I also didn't encounter any bugs other than the norm. The ME3 Citadel and the ME2 aren't that different but frankly it's a different tone. You're preparing for war you shouldn't be exploring the Citadel. That's why it's smaller.

Like I said it had its problems but it was still great. It sounds like you just really hated it.
 

RAIDEN1

Member
Incoming rant: It is soo frustrating as having FINALLY downloaded the whole dam trial version I thought I could make some headway in it but it is still as choppy as hell on my PC, you need a serious rig to get this game to run smoothly, why the hell couldn't they release the trial on PS4 as well!!

I could have downloaded it on Xbox-1 but I wasn't prepared to get a repeat subscription for a service I already have, so now I can't get a good impression of the game...first battle i encountered at the wreck site up in flames I just couldn't get a handle on the combat mechanics-awkward playing in combat mode with the mouse and keyboard....(as I well know from trying to play Republic Commando with that control scheme) ....

Looks like video walkthroughs of it on YouTube it is!!
 

The Dark Shape

Neo Member
I doesn't work nearly as well as I think Bioware intended but it never bothered me. I even like the music and eery atmosphere.

It depends on how you're playing Shepard. The way I was role-playing? Those sequences were hugely successful.

If you're playing a hard-ass, colder Shepard? Not so much.

(Which I agree is a failure on BioWare's part, because they wrote the game in such a way that only one type of Shepard really works with the story. It just so happened to be the Shepard I played through the whole trilogy.)
 

hbkdx12

Member
I'm sure it's too soon as people would want to level up their characters more but it would be awesome to see some gold difficulty runs from MP
 
Wow, so Andromeda really is this polarizing. I really don't know if I should get it at launch.

So conflicted.

Agreed. Subtract Star Child and Kai Leng, the game really is quite good, stilted intro aside.

No.

Who gives a fuck what the MC score is? Metacritic scores were inflated across the board at the end of the gen. The game had numerous faults not only on the writing side from almost everything pertaining to Cerberus, both the intro and ending being a hot mess, bugs galore, the side missions being revamped MP maps, issues with the animations, aspects like the scaled back Citadel, the setpieces being crappy such as the one on Thessia, the dream sequences that were tedious due to the fact you had to slowly move in them, among other things.

Who the fuck thought this was fun to play through?

huh, so I'm not the only one who hated virtually every bit of Cerberus' involvement in ME3.

And I also agree with the rest of your points (all of which I've complained about god knows how many times).
 
Finished the trial. Very very very excited to keep going. Game is just doing sooooo much right.

Also, not to destroy my rep or anything, but ME3 is the best game in the series. Issues with the ending aside, it's got the best mechanical foundation (both combat and RPG progression), best visuals, some of the best writing (Rannoch, Tuchanka), fantastic setpieces... so much great stuff.
 

JoeBoy101

Member
Wow, so Andromeda really is this polarizing. I really don't know if I should get it at launch.

So conflicted."

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Ok.

Finished the trial. Very very very excited to keep going. Game is just doing sooooo much right.

Also, not to destroy my rep or anything, but ME3 is the best game in the series. Issues with the ending aside, it's got the best mechanical foundation (both combat and RPG progression), best visuals, some of the best writing (Rannoch, Tuchanka), fantastic setpieces... so much great stuff.

Sorry, ME2, plot arc issues aside, is still my fave from the series. The characters are just too awesome.
 
Who gives a fuck what the MC score is? Metacritic scores were inflated across the board at the end of the gen. The game had numerous faults not only on the writing side from almost everything pertaining to Cerberus, both the intro and ending being a hot mess, bugs galore, the side missions being revamped MP maps, issues with the animations, aspects like the scaled back Citadel, the setpieces being crappy such as the one on Thessia, the dream sequences that were tedious due to the fact you had to slowly move in them, among other things.

Who the fuck thought this was fun to play through?

I had almost forgotten about that sequence...
 

Jarmel

Banned
huh, so I'm not the only one who hated virtually every bit of Cerberus' involvement in ME3.

And I also agree with the rest of your points (all of which I've complained about god knows how many times).

Not only is the stuff pertaining to Cerberus so bad in ME3, it retroactively reaches back and fucks up things in ME1 and ME2. Fuck Walters for that.
 

Drewfonse

Member
Is it just me or the MP in this game is WAY more difficult than ME3's MP? I played a mission on bronze and me and my squad were obliterated by the 6th wave. I don't remember ME3's MP being so punishing in the lower difficulties. Or maybe I just suck. :p



I'm neutral on most characters so far, but I really like Kandros and especially Kesh.


I didn't play ME3 MP, but this MP is hard. I have beaten some bronze levels, but we normally get jacked up. I'm going to level up a Vanguard and see if that helps.
 
Not only is the stuff pertaining to Cerberus so bad in ME3, it retroactively reaches back and fucks up things in ME1 and ME2. Fuck Walters for that.

It's ME2 that's the outlier. In ME1 they were fucked up lunatics experimenting with technology they couldn't possibly understand or hope to control. In ME2 they were suddenly Noble Demons with a great plan and actual competency. ME3 brought them back to ME1.
 
Do you mean the first, second, or third one? All of which served to completely miss the emotional tone they were going for.

I liked it. For me, it captured perfectly the tone of a Commander living with the wages of being in charge when there are actual ramification and lives lost that they feel responsible for even though they weren't directly involved. An epic responsibility. Anderson's
death
plays into that too. The slow walking dream sequences are a manifestation of PTSD and the haunted feeling ranking officers often feel.

So yeah it didn't miss the tone at all for me.
 

RAIDEN1

Member
2 gig? Wowzer, must be some serious fixes in that..then again Bioware said the ship has sailed in terms of any major fixes coming in ahead of release?
 

JoeBoy101

Member
2 gig? Wowzer, must be some serious fixes in that..then again Bioware said the ship has sailed in terms of any major fixes coming in ahead of release?

Well, who knows. Maybe EA has shock collars on them to fix some of the glaring items or push the CC updates?

*cross fingers*

Hair textures? Eyemaps? Will REALLY help the dead face issues.
 

Nielm

Member
Of course they do those characters had 3 games to develop. Meanwhile we haven't seen the MEA cast for a full game.

Irrelevant. I warmed to the characters in Mass Effect 1 immediately, which gave some backstory about them beforehand.

Andromeda just throws them in your face.
 

Ryzaki009

Member
Irrelevant. I warmed to the characters in Mass Effect 1 immediately, which gave some backstory about them beforehand.

Andromeda just throws them in your face.

You warmed up to walking codexes immediately? Because that's what they were in ME1. (save Kaidan who was boring as hell and Ashley who's most famous quote is "I can't tell the aliens from the animals.")

Liara doesn't even have the same personality she had in ME1 where she was just the virginal nerd scientist that was fascinated with you because of the Beacon.

Also you didn't get the backstory for most of the cast til you went through most of their conversations in ME1 which already would render the comparison with Andromeda moot considering you haven't even finished the first hub world. (Unless you had a review copy in which case my apologies)

Unless you're trying to say you were bffs with the cast as soon as they stepped into the Normandy in which case I can only ask how.
 

JoeBoy101

Member
Irrelevant. I warmed to the characters in Mass Effect 1 immediately, which gave some backstory about them beforehand.

Andromeda just throws them in your face.

For the first 10 hours, I agree with you. With characterization, it could get better. Some late trial talks with Cora started fleshing her out, but the game really just throws four companions into your face, figuratively and literally twice. This doesn't ruin them for the game, but does make for a cold start.

Rayne0009 said:
You warmed up to walking codexes immediately? Because that's what they were in ME1. (save Kaidan who was boring as hell and Ashley who's most famous quote is "I can't tell the aliens from the animals.")

Liara doesn't even have the same personality she had in ME1 where she was just the virginal nerd scientist that was fascinated with you because of the Beacon.

Also you didn't get the backstory for most of the cast til you went through most of their conversations in ME1 which already would render the comparison with Andromeda moot considering you haven't even finished the first hub world.

Unless you're trying to say you were bffs with the cast as soon as they stepped into the Normandy in which case I can only ask how.

Remember, in Liara's case, you actually meet her when one of your first missions is to go looking for her. Ashley is introduced under fire and in combat, but because we know the situation and what happens on Eden, we have backstory knowledge organically. Cora and Liam kinda get dumped into your lap without much backstory or introduction at all. And I've already mentioned Draks and Peebee, and I like Peebee. Doesn't make them shit characters, but the intro of the original ME crew is done better than here.
 

J3nga

Member
yes

this was a trial. They tell you "to continue please buy the full game" but they never meant for you to keep going past a certain story point for the trial.

Well, it didn't say you have to wait until actual release date, but only purchase full game, I find this very misleading. I wouldn't have bought the game otherwise just yet.
 
Well, it didn't say you have to wait until actual release date, but only purchase full game, I find this very misleading. I wouldn't have bought the game otherwise just yet.

a bit misleading but you should seen this as a glorified demo you got for 5 extra bucks. They aren't going to let you start playing 1 week earlier. 1 weekend earlier maybe.
 

Nielm

Member
You warmed up to walking codexes immediately? Because that's what they were in ME1. (save Kaidan who was boring as hell and Ashley who's most famous quote is "I can't tell the aliens from the animals.")

Liara doesn't even have the same personality she had in ME1 where she was just the virginal nerd scientist that was fascinated with you because of the Beacon.

Also you didn't get the backstory for most of the cast til you went through most of their conversations in ME1 which already would render the comparison with Andromeda moot considering you haven't even finished the first hub world. (Unless you had a review copy in which case my apologies)

Unless you're trying to say you were bffs with the cast as soon as they stepped into the Normandy in which case I can only ask how.

I don't think I'll ever warm to the characters in Andromeda, except for Drack.

I don't like their personalities and most of them have an annoying air to them, including the generic main character.

Take Wrex for example, you see him arguing with someone in Chora's Den. You immediately get a glimpse of his personality, and I liked him.
Garrus is working for C-Sec and investigating Saren. I immediately liked him.

Zaeed has captured a bounty, and I thought he was interesting straight away. The same for Mordin, who is trying to find a cure for the virus on the Omega. Only Jacob was uninteresting to me, but he gives me a similar vibe to the characters in Andromeda.
 

Madness

Member
Irrelevant. I warmed to the characters in Mass Effect 1 immediately, which gave some backstory about them beforehand.

Andromeda just throws them in your face.

This. Seeing so many saying we liked Garrus over 3 games etc. I warmed to most characters instantly including Liara. So far nothing from PeeBee makes me warm to her or even Cora like I warmed to Miranda instantly in ME2 even though she didn't give you the time of day. I think ME2 however is when our love for the characters took off. Remember when you first see Garrus again on Omega? For me, the animation doesn't seem as big of an issue as much as the writing and characters so far. Most dialogue wheels are again 2 choices and the videos I have seen where people pick one or the other there is little variation in how the player responds. What will grind my gears is if this continues throughout the game, along with those absurdly redundant loading screens and cinematics and planet scanning etc.
 
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