ArkhamFantasy
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Can someone give a brief explanation on why house republicans might be willing to pass this, but the senate republicans wont?
The most productive Congress in decades?To be fair, I was shocked by the lack of leadership and progress demonstrated by Democrats in 2008. This is a whole other level, however.
I think it's because Reps have to answer to their (gerrymandered) districts and Senators for their entire state.Can someone give a brief explanation on why house republicans might be willing to pass this, but the senate republicans wont?
I thought it needs 60 votes to be put into law?
Can someone give a brief explanation on why house republicans might be willing to pass this, but the senate republicans wont?
Nope, they're rushing this because they need to get it in via the budget reconciliation process. It's not a normal vote, only requires 50 votes.
Looks like Trump is resorting to blackmail to get this bill approved...
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/trump-health-care-obamacare-repeal-236281
Looks like Trump is resorting to blackmail to get this bill approved...
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/trump-health-care-obamacare-repeal-236281
Can someone give a brief explanation on why house republicans might be willing to pass this, but the senate republicans wont?
Just curious about how likely some of these people say they'll vote no but when it comes down to it they'll flop? Some of this is just politics I assume...Just trying to get as many last minute concessions as possible before they go along with it.
The argument is that Republicans always fall in line. Which there is an element of truth in that statement.
The sort of problem I see in this situation is that you have one side that doesn't like the proposed bill because it fucks their constituents raw. The other side is the Freedom Caucus who want government to get out of health care completely for pretty much ideological reasons...and these guys haven't really shown much willingness to ever compromise hard.
So you end up with a political party that simultaneously thinks Trumpcare to far too harsh and soft. With two diametrically opposite ideologies in play here, a president that has spent the first month getting his travel ban knocked back twice because he can't fucking shut up about treating muslims like shit and a speaker/policy wonk that has shown to be nothing but terrible at his job, I can't really understand why people assume they're going to be able to pass Trumpcare in their current situation..
Would having the vote pulled be viewed as big of a failure as if the vote failed?
Would having the vote pulled be viewed as big of a failure as if the vote failed?
Would having the vote pulled be viewed as big of a failure as if the vote failed?
They won't do the vote unless they're sure they don't have the numbers. Loosing a vote with the majority they have in the house would be a fucking embarrassment.
The shock wave it would send to the Market would be pretty rough as well...
Only if you wake up in 4 or 8 years.
I got a feeling that it will pass. At that point, I am not sure how will things go for the people. So much suffering and a lot of dark years ahead.
Pence is saying he's confident they'll have the votes, but he lies through his teeth about everything.
https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/844539670990131200
Pence is saying he's confident they'll have the votes, but he lies through his teeth about everything.
https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/844539670990131200
Dear #GOP moderates: Vote no on #Trumpcare & you may lose primary. Vote yes & you will lose the general. Good luck!
Trump said on twitter they are working hard. oh god i would LOVE to see the tweet storm when this doesn't pass lol. or what he'll say during the next next speech/rally/address.
The House will pass it. As big as the Freedom Caucus is talking, they'll fold on Thursday regardless of any changes. They won't make it through the Senate without gutting it, meaning it'll probably stall out. The crazy thing is that if it did have a snowball's chance in passing, I'd rather they just repeal the whole thing and not replace it. The GOP plan effectively means rolling back the insurance program to before ACA with more benefits for the rich and insurance companies. Sure they can't deny you coverage, but they'll charge you more for it if it ever lapses.
The Freedom caucus is foaming at the mouth. Boehner couldn't get them in line and neither can Ryan. I am confident it won't pass the house.
Given the option of ACA vs no ACA, they'll fold. They won't like it but the'll fold, then walk back their opposition because the replacement is "the better of two evils" or some such nonsense. As well, the Tea Party was acting in both opposition to their own party as well as the Democrats. With the GOP holding the White House as well as both chamber of Congress, they'll go along with it.
BREAKING: more than 25 Freedom Caucus 'No's' on AHCA -- group says "start over"
That's not what the option is. To them the ACHA is even worse than the ACA.
First time I've thought the bill might not pass:
https://twitter.com/alyssafarah/status/844600543519686660
I have 100% faith this is going to pass. Republicans are thugs when it comes to getting together to fuck over poor people and that's what this does.
First time I've thought the bill might not pass:
https://twitter.com/alyssafarah/status/844600543519686660
Odds that Ryan pulls the bill before the vote seem to be rising fast. Can't imagine he puts this up for a vote if he knows it will fail.
First time I've thought the bill might not pass:
https://twitter.com/alyssafarah/status/844600543519686660