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Justice League - Official Trailer 1

Should Superman eventually appear in the trailers?


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Surely this is sarcasm.... Right? You know Batman makes puns and jokes in the source material right? Assuming you're being serious, why is it such a big deal that Batman makes a joke about being rich?

I heard that Moore actually called DC and asked them to put his name in the credits of Justice League. He's such a fanboy.



Nolan's Batman made plenty of jokes. Same thing in the comics. Come on, of all the things to criticize...

Mostly just making a joke, but yeah, I do kind-of standby that critique. It's not that Batman can't make jokes, he obviously has always done so and should continue to do so. It's that I don't typically read most interpretations of Batman, especially this Batman, to be self-aware enough to make that particular joke.

It's a joke that would play better if another character made it, at Batman's expense, IMO.
 

Khezu

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The only thing I like so far is how dorky and awkward Bruce comes off in these trailers.
I hope he is like that all through out the movie.
 
IDK... Civil War was mostly CG for a lot of the sets and characters themselves. And the CG was polished up until the last possible second.

I think a lot of these CG comments are petty. I forget I'm on NeoGAF sometimes.
But in this trailer, which is what this thread is for discussing, people think the CG looks rough in some places. No one's seen the movie. This point is less valid than people saying the CG looks bad because you guys are basing it off an assumption that it will get better while people saying it looks bad are basing it off the trailer. That being said there's hyperbole on both sides. I don't mean to come at you personally , a lot of people have been saying this .
 

opricnik

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IDK... Civil War was mostly CG for a lot of the sets and characters themselves. And the CG was polished up until the last possible second.

I think a lot of these CG comments are petty. I forget I'm on NeoGAF sometimes.

Lol did we watched same Civil War?
because CG looked absolutely horrible in Civil War, so disappointing coming from Winter Soldier.

That Iron Man mask i cant even.
 

eizarus

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Mostly just making a joke, but yeah, I do kind-of standby that critique. It's not that Batman can't make jokes, he obviously has always done so and should continue to do so. It's that I don't typically read most interpretations of Batman, especially this Batman, to be self-aware enough to make that particular joke.

It's a joke that would play better if another character made it, at Batman's expense, IMO.
I agree that it would be better if someone else made the joke but unfortunately Hal Jordon isn't in the DCEU yet 😉
(Though I'm completely fine with Batman making the joke. I found it funny)
 

LosDaddie

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So.....WB made the mistake of showing Doomsday in the BvS trailer.

Does WB make the same mistake (eventually) by showing Superman in a trailer for this movie?
 

glaurung

Member
The overly busy costume designs on Cyborg, Flash and Aquaman are really throwing me off. Batman's heavily contoured armor is not helping either (plus apparently Snyder stole his goggle props from his own Watchmen movie wardrobe). Wonder Woman's apparel is the only one that does not look like a design student's amphetamine deadline rush.

I think the Flash looks the ugliest, but Cyborg looks the busiest, a Michael Bay trope that I simply cannot forgive. When I say busy, I mean that they are trying to detract from the fact that it looks ugly with a lot of moving parts or blinking lights. Reference material: any new Transformers movies, John "idiot" Connor in Genisys etc.
 

Litan

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Like the synergy shown between the team here. It needs that to work.
Visually, it's as stunning as you'd expect from Snyder, though he still has that daylight-looking-like-evening thing going on.

Still not feeling Cyborg's design and I'm a bit iffy on Flash's suit, though it looks better to me now than the first time I saw it.

Mamoa looks like he'll own his Aquaman role. Gadot looks the part, but the few lines she delivered and her acting leave something to be desired. Batman gonna Batman.

The LotR-looking battle with the Amazons and Parademons looks nice. The action is going to be awesome, no doubt.
I actually liked the song choice.

Hopefully Snyder can deliver here.
 
Not showing Superman would be a mistake

With Bats and WW, they'd draw a crowd anyway so I don't know why they'd need to "spoil" a Superman return in the trailers. I mean the people who are naive enough to think Supes is really dead would really enjoy the surprise after all.
 

lamaroo

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You know what's funny is Man of Steel, the movie that 'started' this whole DC Cinematic Universe actually went away from the slow-mo, and gave us some awesome DBZ fights in full speed.

Since then Snyder has just gone back to that stuff. Although it makes sense for some Flash scenes.

I don't like the blue colour most of the movie has either, but it's not a big deal.
 
A lot of the humor came across as pretty forced, and didn't go well with the darkserious gloom of everything. The "Dressed like a bat? I dig it," line was the only one that seemed to work. Otherwise it's looking like the dreary mess BvS was, only now stuffed with more characters.

Agreed!
The action scenes look pretty cool though but otherwise I'm highly skeptical.

WB have already swindled me out of cash from 3 turd movies in a row, watched this trailer with a mountain sized grain of salt, I'm no lemming.
 
IDK... Civil War was mostly CG for a lot of the sets and characters themselves. And the CG was polished up until the last possible second.

I think a lot of these CG comments are petty. I forget I'm on NeoGAF sometimes.
Cg is over used. Old films do a better job without so much of it. Other special effects use with models look better in many films. You can say people are wrong or group people if you want.
 

Blader

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I wonder where all the action for this is happening. There's some stuff that's obviously in a city, but there are also shots that look it may be Apokolips or something similar.
 
I wonder where all the action for this is happening. There's some stuff that's obviously in a city, but there are also shots that look it may be Apokolips or something similar.

I wouldn't be surprised if there is some Apokolips. Might be similar to that recent film JL War. May need to plant a bomb on Apokolips to stop the flow of Parademons or something. As for the city, I've got no clue. I forget Cyborg's hometown but if they're going with the Parademons coming form the Mother Box it might be set around there.
 
Few thoughts seeing the trailer, for someone who has almost nothing but loathed the DC Cinematic Universe so far:

- Writing feels a lot better in this trailer than any of the previous films or the last teaser... I'm open to accept that I have bad taste for thinking this, but I'm finding the levity to be well handled in the writing for the most part
- Flash's costume is kinda growing on me, I think it looks kinda cool, wasn't much of a fan before
- Really liking Batman not seeming so gruff and anti-social anymore. He's still carrying himself a bit like a loner, but again, the writing has lightened him the fuck up big time, and I feel like Affleck is really kind of enjoying getting to portray the character in that direction
- Ok, Jason Mamoa Aquaman is kinda cool
- Still not digging the hyper desaturated color grading, it's a drag
- Cyborg's special effects look real bad :(
- still hiding Supes feels messed up
- ew at that Come Together cover, so bad

... I'm starting to actually feel a glimmer of hope for this film. I still hope it's genuinely the last time Snyder directs any of the mainline (Justice League or any of the League members' solo movies) stuff, but it does feel like he's at least been able to gain some level of awareness about how some fans have felt about this universe so far. I don't know if it's the suits forcing him to adopt a different creative direction, but it seems to be working for me... At least, from this one trailer.

Just need Supes to feel optimistic and confident in where he stands... Then I'm set, baby!
 
But in this trailer, which is what this thread is for discussing, people think the CG looks rough in some places. No one's seen the movie. This point is less valid than people saying the CG looks bad because you guys are basing it off an assumption that it will get better while people saying it looks bad are basing it off the trailer. That being said there's hyperbole on both sides. I don't mean to come at you personally , a lot of people have been saying this .
I know that's what this thread is discussing. Thanks.

What major studio movie that has showed off an a trailer with CG not had an improved product in the final release? Please tell me. Logic says the CG will improve by release since they have a lot of post production time left. Anyone who says otherwise is kidding themselves.

Then we have people complaining this looks to be a CG fest when, most marvel movies are exactly that. See where I'm getting at?

My second point for bringing up Civil War is that the CG in the trailers were improved by the time the movie came out... that's how these things go. Why expect anything different for this movie? I can speculate...


Lol did we watched same Civil War?
because CG looked absolutely horrible in Civil War, so disappointing coming from Winter Soldier.

That Iron Man mask i cant even.

Oh I'm not saying I liked the CG in Civil War. I think most of it was fine but unnecessary for Black Panther's suit and Spidey's suit. The entire airport being CG might have been overkill too. But hey, no problems with that for those complaining about this trailer.
 

m23

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Not showing Superman would be a mistake

I think a small tease would be enough. I don't think they need a full reveal of Superman, leave that for the movie itself.

And please DC, don't show the main villain in the trailer again...

So hyped for this as someone who enjoyed bvs despite it's flaws.
 
I know that's what this thread is discussing. Thanks.

What major studio movie that has showed off an a trailer with CG not had an improved product in the final release? Please tell me. Logic says the CG will improve by release since they have a lot of post production time left. Anyone who says otherwise is kidding themselves.

Then we have people complaining this looks to be a CG fest when, most marvel movies are exactly that. See where I'm getting at?
All I'm saying bruh is that people can complain that the CG in the trailer looks like shit and that's perfectly valid. Even if it's improved in the final movie which I'm sure it will be , that won't make the CG in this trailer any better.
 
It'd take guts to hold back on Superman. Ideally it's his monument and clips from MoS or BvS, mainly talking about him in the past. Trouble is continuing to hide large moments of the movie.
 

jett

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It'd take guts to hold back on Superman. Ideally it's his monument and clips from MoS or BvS, mainly talking about him in the past. Trouble is continuing to hide large moments of the movie.

Oh now I see why this trailer is all dark and shit. The movie will take place at night until Superman comes back, after which the rest of the movie will be in daylight.

It's like poetry.
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
- Still not digging the hyper desaturated color grading, it's a drag

is this better?
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Oh now I see why this trailer is all dark and shit. The movie will take place at night until Superman comes back, after which the rest of the movie will be in daylight.

It's like poetry.

I feel like they showed that scene already in this trailer with them all lined up in the dawn. Notice how batman is absent in that shot

He's probably in the same frame as superman and that's gonna be their big JL shot like the intro of the cartoon
 
I know better than to get excited about a Zack Snyder movie but this one looks way more up my alley than either MoS or BvS. Fuck it, let's go.
 
All I'm saying bruh is that people can complain that the CG in the trailer looks like shit and that's perfectly valid. Even if it's improved in the final movie which I'm sure it will be , that won't make the CG in this trailer any better.

CG doesn't look like shit. It looks unfinished which are two different things. Objectively, right now, it doesn't look like hot garbage, as others have posted. There are plenty of movies that do have shit CG and this trailer, while unfinished, isn't shit. I don't care about complaining but let's roll back the hyperbole a bit.

That's all.

EDIT: Not talking about you or anything like that.

It's hard to have decent discussion on the OT about anything DCEU without getting the usual bullshit.


Anyway, I've seen the trailer numerous times and like small bit of humor seeping through. I'm also glad the didn't show Steppenwolfe or Supes. They HAVE to hold that out for the final trailer. Have to.
 

Blader

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I feel like they showed that scene already in this trailer with them all lined up in the dawn. Notice how batman is absent in that shot

He's probably in the same frame as superman and that's gonna be their big JL shot like the intro of the cartoon
I was thinking that lineup shot might actually be the very end of the movie.
 

Effect

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So.....WB made the mistake of showing Doomsday in the BvS trailer.

Does WB make the same mistake (eventually) by showing Superman in a trailer for this movie?

They can show Superman. That's an obvious thing. He's coming back. He's been in promotional material already. That's not a surprise. That's different from Doomsday because no knew about him until the trailer and he/it could have been kept as a surprise. That was a final act reveal that didn't need to take place. What they shouldn't show or hint is how Superman comes back to life or even suggest he might not have been dead in the first place if that's the direction they go. That's the big thing they shouldn't do I think.
 

yuraya

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People shouldn't forget about those dream sequences in BvS. I think there is a good reason why they haven't showed Superman yet. Its because he will be the villain in this movie.

Flash said in that dream "You were right about him....Lois Lane is the key." I doubt Snyder would put that stuff in there if he didn't have something planned for it long term.

I think Superman will be the villain in the movie at first until Batman gets Lois to talk him out of being the bad guy or something. Like Black Widow touching Hulks hands n shit. Then Superman becomes good and they all team up to take down Steppenwolf who most likely responsible for Superman being bad in the first place.
 
I like the trailer, I know there was a lot of mistakes with Batman Vs Super. Here is to hoping, hoping that the varied cast lifts the film and it will be a enjoyable experience. I am optimistic.
 
A Superman trailer for this should be Lois talking about him, shots of his statue and stuff and then the dirt shaking on his casket from BVS. Don't think they should show him really.
 

Blader

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People shouldn't forget about those dream sequences in BvS. I think there is a good reason why they haven't showed Superman yet. Its because he will be the villain in this movie.

Flash said in that dream "You were right about him....Lois Lane is the key." I doubt Snyder would put that stuff in there if he didn't have something planned for it long term.

I think Superman will be the villain in the movie at first until Batman gets Lois to talk him out of being the bad guy or something. Like Black Widow touching Hulks hands n shit. Then Superman becomes good and they all team up to take down Steppenwolf who most likely responsible for Superman being bad in the first place.

I have to imagine that if that was ever in the cards for JL, it was jettisoned the second they saw the BvS reviews started rolling in. WB has been making a concerted and public effort to make their movies are obviously fun, heroic, etc. and they're probably not gonna follow up on that by making Superman an outright villain in JL.

Honestly I think that whole Knightmare plot will be abandoned completely for future movies.
 
Yeah. I really like this drunk metalhead vibe they have going for him

Instead of wonder woman it's aquaman who should get the electric theme song. Really hoping this happens.

Just give her theme to him with zero explanation

Shit just retcon it so Aquaman is the one who showed up in BvS instead
 

jelly

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People shouldn't forget about those dream sequences in BvS. I think there is a good reason why they haven't showed Superman yet. Its because he will be the villain in this movie.

Flash said in that dream "You were right about him....Lois Lane is the key." I doubt Snyder would put that stuff in there if he didn't have something planned for it long term.

I think Superman will be the villain in the movie at first until Batman gets Lois to talk him out of being the bad guy or something. Like Black Widow touching Hulks hands n shit. Then Superman becomes good and they all team up to take down Steppenwolf who most likely responsible for Superman being bad in the first place.

Lois "Clark listen to me, we all love you, I have a cousin, her name is Mar...."
 
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