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tuffymon

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Right, it seems relevant and fun for Gilgamesh, but I was responding to the question of advantages of an actual tank over a dodge tank, as it seemed the question was posed more broadly.

My guess is, if dodge tanking becomes a huge hit and changes the meta in a serious fashion, we can expect gumi to add attacks that either lower evasion or bosses that arent affected by it.
 

bonkeng

Member
drop a QA > 95 > use a FS > 100% + counter, lose some dmg, but gain the ability to counter up to the number of hits coming your way.

Noctis isn't squishy like Ling.

Yea he isn't. But he'll still rely on rng. If rng decides to have fun with Noctis, that 85% evade will mean nothing and Noctis eats up all hits.
 
I mean Perfect Dodge unit paired with Minfillia/Marie is a shit ton of Mitigation

At the very least its a nice setup to have in your back pocket for tough encounters
 

tuffymon

Member
This is what mine would look like right now (add esper of your choice, and in eventuality, replace shield with genji shield)...


Noctis 6 Star
FFBEDB Unit Calculator
Right Hand: Kiyomori +79ATK +10%Evade
Left Hand: Aegis Shield +53DEF+25SPR+100%Petrify
Head: Black Cowl +28ATK+25DEF+25SPR+100%Sleep
Body: Black Belt Gi +8ATK+24DEF
Accessory 1: Ring of the Lucii +3MAG+3SPR+25%Evasion/Counter
Accessory 2: Twenty-sided Die +20%CriticalRate/Evasion
Ability 1: Quick Assault +30% ATK +10%Evasion
Ability 2: First Strike +5%Evasion+20%Counter
Ability 3: HP +30% +30% HP
Ability 4: HP +30% +30% HP
Esper: Diabolos HP:4680 MP:6170 ATK:1640 DEF:2390 MAG:5460 SPR:3250
Total Stats: HP: 7525 MP: 347 ATK: 412 DEF: 305 MAG: 273 SPR: 284

and 90% evade
 

RedZaraki

Banned
I made this, so I'll put it here.

PROTIP: If you're Dual Weilding different weapons with Orlandeau put Excalibur in the LEFT hand. That way it will be used for the second swing of Divine Ruination, allowing it to benefit more from the light debuff and give you a bit more damage.

PROTIP: Marie is one of the best supports in the game, but has no healing spells innately. However, if you equip her with a Healing Staff or the Carbuncle Esper she can get Cura! With her innate Dual-Cast she is a useful backup healer.

PROTIP: Chaining is a great way to blow up some bosses super hard. For two Orlandeaus, the key is to input the Divine Ruinations nearly simultaneously. They will not chain if you Cue + Toggle Auto or by using Repeat. You must manually enter them nearly simultaneously. If you do it just right they will chain to 28. Issue an Olive True Shot right before and you can one-shot even ELT Ifrit! (with the right preparation)

PROTIP: Done with the Ifrit Raid after getting your Trust Moogle? Don't stop farming it! Not only do you aid the rest of the community, but you'll also earn tons and tons of Ifrit Raid coins from clearing PRO and ELT. They sell for 50 gil each! That's 90k gil per run of ELT! I've made 8 Million gil in the last week!

PROTIP: Don't buy the 1% Moogles from the King Mog event! Each one costs 10k Red Stones. Running Elit it would take you over 100 NRG on average to have that many Red Stones. However, if you run Earth Sthrine you can get 0.2% TMR on 5 party members in an average of 20 runs, which is only 20 NRG! That means these moogles cost FIVE TIMES the NRG for the same amount of TMR! Not worth.

PROTIP: What's better for an accessory? +30 ATK or +15% ATK? The break even point is if the unit has 200 base attack. Above 200 base attack take the +15% ATK. No unit in the game has 200 base attack yet (as far as I'm aware), not even Olive or Orlandeau with full Attack pots. Additionally, Doublehand takes into account equipment ATK, making the flat ATK even better for Olive!
 

Valentus

Member
Sooooo....

Warior of light with 2 Luciis, Kiyomori, and 2 evade materias + 2 HP+30% materia = 80% evasion and shitload of HP and DEF

The Light is with us = fuck you kill me only with magic?
 

across

Member
Sooooo....

Warior of light with 2 Luciis, Kiyomori, and 2 evade materias + 2 HP+30% materia = 80% evasion and shitload of HP and DEF

The Light is with us = fuck you kill me only with magic?

Yes, this is what I'm talking about. Nevermind 100% dodge tanking, just adding some measure of dodge on a dedicated tank will probably be an enormous EHP boost, then you also benefit from all their innate support abilities. Two Lucii rings though... :/

Guess even with 20SD and Arsha's Talisman or whatever you'd still have a considerable boost over "traditional" setups.
 

shintoki

sparkle this bitch
So you're saying I should get my ring of Lucii, I have yet to TM farm it. But I guess I can start throwing my Moogles towards it. Probably get the 30k one from this event.
 
So you're saying I should get my ring of Lucii, I have yet to TM farm it. But I guess I can start throwing my Moogles towards it. Probably get the 30k one from this event.

yup Ring of Lucii is one of the best accessories in the game


Damn now my arena is crashing the game for me every time

i went a long time but i guess its my turn now?

i hope maintenance fixes this
 
Ring of Lucii is what 25% evade? I would probably throw a 20 sided die on the other slot even though it's only 20% I would take the 5% loss and throw the other ring on another unit for the bonus of Alterna, Death, and Holy on 2 units.
 
This is what mine would look like right now (add esper of your choice, and in eventuality, replace shield with genji shield)...


Noctis 6 Star
FFBEDB Unit Calculator
Right Hand: Kiyomori +79ATK +10%Evade
Left Hand: Aegis Shield +53DEF+25SPR+100%Petrify
Head: Black Cowl +28ATK+25DEF+25SPR+100%Sleep
Body: Black Belt Gi +8ATK+24DEF
Accessory 1: Ring of the Lucii +3MAG+3SPR+25%Evasion/Counter
Accessory 2: Twenty-sided Die +20%CriticalRate/Evasion
Ability 1: Quick Assault +30% ATK +10%Evasion
Ability 2: First Strike +5%Evasion+20%Counter
Ability 3: HP +30% +30% HP
Ability 4: HP +30% +30% HP
Esper: Diabolos HP:4680 MP:6170 ATK:1640 DEF:2390 MAG:5460 SPR:3250
Total Stats: HP: 7525 MP: 347 ATK: 412 DEF: 305 MAG: 273 SPR: 284

and 90% evade

I'm so stealing this lol.
 
Ring of Lucii is what 25% evade? I would probably throw a 20 sided die on the other slot even though it's only 20% I would take the 5% loss and throw the other ring on another unit for the bonus of Alterna, Death, and Holy on 2 units.

yeah agreed.

double ring of Lucii on one unit is a waste and not a hard requirement for noctis to hit 100
 

Kouriozan

Member
yup Ring of Lucii is one of the best accessories in the game


Damn now my arena is crashing the game for me every time

i went a long time but i guess its my turn now?

i hope maintenance fixes this
Apparently, someone has an invalid name and that is why a lot of people are crashing when the game load him.
 

Pejo

Gold Member
I asked yesterday but I don't think I think I posted at the end of a page, is there currently or in the future any good use for Mercedes' 120 ATK water axe (besides giving it to her)? I don't have Randi, but I do have Equip Axe materia.

I was hoping Tidus could use it but he can't use axes natively and I'm not giving up a materia slot on him for it.

I was thinking of putting it on Ling, it's probably a net damage increase for her over the best dagger options, but does it even matter for her?

I hate sitting on a weapon that's got such good attack, but it seems kinda pointless currently.
 

shintoki

sparkle this bitch
Sounds like I'm getting the Ring then. I'll use my monthly Moogles and get the 30k one from the event, since it's going pretty quick.
 

Kouriozan

Member
About Arena crashes : https://www.reddit.com/r/FFBraveExvius/comments/61yd6o/arena_crash_support_response/dfiapoo/

Gotta thanks this dude :
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This is what mine would look like right now (add esper of your choice, and in eventuality, replace shield with genji shield)...


Noctis 6 Star
FFBEDB Unit Calculator
Right Hand: Kiyomori +79ATK +10%Evade
Left Hand: Aegis Shield +53DEF+25SPR+100%Petrify
Head: Black Cowl +28ATK+25DEF+25SPR+100%Sleep
Body: Black Belt Gi +8ATK+24DEF
Accessory 1: Ring of the Lucii +3MAG+3SPR+25%Evasion/Counter
Accessory 2: Twenty-sided Die +20%CriticalRate/Evasion
Ability 1: Quick Assault +30% ATK +10%Evasion
Ability 2: First Strike +5%Evasion+20%Counter
Ability 3: HP +30% +30% HP
Ability 4: HP +30% +30% HP
Esper: Diabolos HP:4680 MP:6170 ATK:1640 DEF:2390 MAG:5460 SPR:3250
Total Stats: HP: 7525 MP: 347 ATK: 412 DEF: 305 MAG: 273 SPR: 284

and 90% evade

Hrmmm I may do this and run 2x Orlandu/Olive/Evade Noctis/Refia or Yoshi and see how it does as a team.

Edit: For solo mobs this would probably destroy most things, but any hard content that is multiple enemies at once this team actually probably wouldn't do so hot.
 
I asked yesterday but I don't think I think I posted at the end of a page, is there currently or in the future any good use for Mercedes' 120 ATK water axe (besides giving it to her)? I don't have Randi, but I do have Equip Axe materia.

I was hoping Tidus could use it but he can't use axes natively and I'm not giving up a materia slot on him for it.

I was thinking of putting it on Ling, it's probably a net damage increase for her over the best dagger options, but does it even matter for her?

I hate sitting on a weapon that's got such good attack, but it seems kinda pointless currently.

yeah its just a good tool in your arsenal to hold on to but the best unit that can use it is still Mercedes herself lol

No other unit drops water res with their nuke at the moment
 

RedZaraki

Banned
PROTIP: Want to quickly swap which party you're using for different missions? You don't need to visit the units page, swap parties, and then visit the mission! Instead, visit the mission page, and then after selecting the friend unit, on the screen that has the "Depart" button, just slide your party to a new party! Makes switching between parties much more convenient!
 

across

Member
I asked yesterday but I don't think I think I posted at the end of a page, is there currently or in the future any good use for Mercedes' 120 ATK water axe (besides giving it to her)? I don't have Randi, but I do have Equip Axe materia.

Nothing I can see. Firion gets a good bonus from Axes - but Katana/Fist is his optimal setup, Blade Mastery/Champion Belt(s) allowing. Mercedes is (no pun intended) pretty much a wash. Maybe an okay chain ender if you have Tidus+Friend Tidus building an element chain, since she'll benefit from (max LB) Tidus' 100% Water resist debuff? Seems ridiculously situational though and she offers nothing else of value.

Actually, maybe if you put it on Fire Veritas to cap a chain with two Tiduses. His top attack isn't innately elemental, 250% + 50% ITD. So it's useful if you pull two 5* bases!

edit: if you plan on pulling for Tidus but don't have enough Moogles to insta-boost his TM, then giving him Equip Axe and the Viking Axe might be a good stopgap measure if you want to use him in the meantime. That's the most realistic use case I can think of.
 

RedZaraki

Banned
My one biggest Gripe about Orlandeau:

Besides the fact that they're using the War of the Lions translations for his name and abilities.

WHY did they have to make his normal animations all be spell casts? WHY!?

Only his Limit Break has any of the actual FFT animations.


THOSE should be the animations for his skills. The classic animations, and his sprite should swing the sword too.

Damn, missed opportunity.
 
My one biggest Gripe about Orlandeau:

Besides the fact that they're using the War of the Lions translations for his name and abilities.

WHY did they have to make his normal animations all be spell casts? WHY!?

Only his Limit Break has any of the actual FFT animations.


THOSE should be the animations for his skills. The classic animations, and his sprite should swing the sword too.

Damn, missed opportunity.

yup they did this shit for a bunch of characters

Fucking Edgars Limit break has him pull out his chainsaw but his ability doesnt

lazy fucks
 
I made this, so I'll put it here.

PROTIP: If you're Dual Weilding different weapons with Orlandeau put Excalibur in the LEFT hand. That way it will be used for the second swing of Divine Ruination, allowing it to benefit more from the light debuff and give you a bit more damage.

PROTIP: Marie is one of the best supports in the game, but has no healing spells innately. However, if you equip her with a Healing Staff or the Carbuncle Esper she can get Cura! With her innate Dual-Cast she is a useful backup healer.

PROTIP: Chaining is a great way to blow up some bosses super hard. For two Orlandeaus, the key is to input the Divine Ruinations nearly simultaneously. They will not chain if you Cue + Toggle Auto or by using Repeat. You must manually enter them nearly simultaneously. If you do it just right they will chain to 28. Issue an Olive True Shot right before and you can one-shot even ELT Ifrit! (with the right preparation)

PROTIP: Done with the Ifrit Raid after getting your Trust Moogle? Don't stop farming it! Not only do you aid the rest of the community, but you'll also earn tons and tons of Ifrit Raid coins from clearing PRO and ELT. They sell for 50 gil each! That's 90k gil per run of ELT! I've made 8 Million gil in the last week!

PROTIP: Don't buy the 1% Moogles from the King Mog event! Each one costs 10k Red Stones. Running Elit it would take you over 100 NRG on average to have that many Red Stones. However, if you run Earth Sthrine you can get 0.2% TMR on 5 party members in an average of 20 runs, which is only 20 NRG! That means these moogles cost FIVE TIMES the NRG for the same amount of TMR! Not worth.

PROTIP: What's better for an accessory? +30 ATK or +15% ATK? The break even point is if the unit has 200 base attack. Above 200 base attack take the +15% ATK. No unit in the game has 200 base attack yet (as far as I'm aware), not even Olive or Orlandeau with full Attack pots. Additionally, Doublehand takes into account equipment ATK, making the flat ATK even better for Olive!


Good tips. Thumbs up
 

Lyrian

Member
Pop Quiz Time:

--- Tomorrow is Day 29 on the daily login reward calendar. Does the playerbase receive:

A) 50 Lapis (because it's nerfing time)
B) 100 Lapis (because this is what players have always received)
C) 1% Trust Moogle (because 1% TM moogles exist now and <10% TM moogles have been rewarded so far for the month from the calendar)
D) None of the above.


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Surprised no one here or on Reddit has really mentioned this seemingly obvious connection yet:

-- Garnet 6* should be the herald of the White Magic meta. Not surprising, as to put this in FFXI terms, she is a WHM/SUM (versus Rydia who would be a SUM/BLM). White magic is her dominant ability, not summoning, so she would be an ideal candidate for such a white magic meta shift.
 

Pejo

Gold Member
yeah its just a good tool in your arsenal to hold on to but the best unit that can use it is still Mercedes herself lol

No other unit drops water res with their nuke at the moment

There's always Flare, but that's way too situational to try to fit a square peg in a round hole.

Nothing I can see. Firion gets a good bonus from Axes - but Katana/Fist is his optimal setup, Blade Mastery/Champion Belt(s) allowing. Mercedes is (no pun intended) pretty much a wash. Maybe an okay chain ender if you have Tidus+Friend Tidus building an element chain, since she'll benefit from (max LB) Tidus' 100% Water resist debuff? Seems ridiculously situational though and she offers nothing else of value.

Actually, maybe if you put it on Fire Veritas to cap a chain with two Tiduses. His top attack isn't innately elemental, 250% + 50% ITD. So it's useful if you pull two 5* bases!

edit: if you plan on pulling for Tidus but don't have enough Moogles to insta-boost his TM, then giving him Equip Axe and the Viking Axe might be a good stopgap measure if you want to use him in the meantime. That's the most realistic use case I can think of.

Firion's not a bad idea, but I need to farm a 3rd dual wield before he'd have a spot on any of my teams, still it at least is a use for the axe. Tidus will be mine when he releases, so maybe it'll be useful there for a bit until I get some better TMs moving too.

Thanks both of you!
 

Shouta

Member
I wonder how good all the 6-star forms for the FF9 chars will be. I'm not expecting a bang up job for them but hopefully something fun and usable.
 

Muku

Member
...

We ask Gumi to give us a 6* of something we have already, because we have plenty that could use an upgrade!

Their response? Here is 6* fucking Lasswell. News flash! No one gives a shit about Lasswell Gumi. -_-;

Guess I'll be skipping his 6*. At least I felt like Rain was worth it.
 

Lyrian

Member
I wonder how good all the 6-star forms for the FF9 chars will be. I'm not expecting a bang up job for them but hopefully something fun and usable.

The older units, I'm not expecting too much from.

Garnet, on the other hand, is going to be used as the "introduction" to the White Magic meta, as a 4* base. This would be in preparation for the inevitable 5* base white mage that will be release that truly demonstrates the potential for the meta shift.

On the other hand, people already have have insane expectations about Beatrix from dev stream. That's going to be a hard bar to clear for her.

All that said, I'm expecting there to be some sort of synergy between Beatrix and Garnet. As most offensive white magic is generally Holy based, that also introduces synergy potential with Orlandeau as well.

We shall see.
 

Muku

Member
Lasswell is 91 on Altema though. Rain is only 90, that piece of shit.

Well, for me it was having a Breaker that didn't blow ass. *cough*Ingus*cough*

Fortunately, since then, I've gotten WoL and will now use him instead. I see no redeeming qualities in Buttwell.
 

Lyrian

Member
...

Their response? Here is 6* fucking Lasswell. News flash! No one gives a shit about Lasswell Gumi. -_-;

Guess I'll be skipping his 6*. At least I felt like Rain was worth it.

Revisit this comment when the story-unit required teams are needed in ~2 months or less from now.

Given how easy it is to level a story unit compared to a normal one, raising Lasswell shouldn't be more than a speedbump at most for many (especially with the imminent INT maze and slightly farther out in the future PRO dunes).
 
Garnet, on the other hand, is going to be used as the "introduction" to the White Magic meta, as a 4* base. This would be in preparation for the inevitable 5* base white mage that will be release that truly demonstrates the potential for the meta shift.

Can you explain what you mean by that? I'm not sure I understand what the "white magic meta" is.
 

Muku

Member
Revisit this comment when the story-unit required teams are needed in ~2 months or less from now.

Given how easy it is to level a story unit compared to a normal one, raising Lasswell shouldn't be more than a speedbump at most for many (especially with the imminent INT maze and slightly farther out in the future PRO dunes).

Yeah, I know it's coming. I've been working on others. I have little to no interest in Lasswell though. From what I recall, it's not part of the main story to go through, correct? In which I can completely skip if I want to?

Right now I'm keeping resources for when they actually stop letting some old units suck.

Plus right now it comes down to not just resources but time. And I'm trying to get other things done with my NRG at the moment. If I didn't have stuff planned, or just got Orlandu, I'd have probably used my 100 Cactaur on him. But right now I have shit going on.


Edit: Yes, I am bitter. Why the fuck Lasswell? Just gimme my damn 6* Garland. ;_;
 

Lyrian

Member
Can you explain what you mean by that? I'm not sure I understand what the "white magic meta" is.

It's a somewhat vague concept that one is really sure about yet, but everyone can see the writing on the wall. Vague patch notes for JP's launch of the Season 2 of the story on Thursday claim that offensive white magic (Banish, Holy, etc.) will finally be adjusted to calculate off SPR instead of INT. Beyond that.... no one knows yet.

But the potential is obvious. Slapping a ton of SPR on a healer can now not only make them great healers, but also now monster mages. That's the short-range outlook. Long-term, this opens up a boatload of potential options for new offensive options based off of SPR on existing or likely new units to leverage this.

Yeah, I know it's coming. I've been working on others. I have little to no interest in Lasswell though. From what I recall, it's not part of the main story to go through, correct? In which I can completely skip if I want to?
;_;


Yeah, it's event-based stuff. Someone correctly if I'm wrong, but the missions start appearing with the arrival of enhancements, I believe?
 
It's a somewhat vague concept that one is really sure about yet, but everyone can see the writing on the wall. Vague patch notes for JP's launch of the Season 2 of the story on Thursday claim that offensive white magic (Banish, Holy, etc.) will finally be adjusted to calculate off SPR instead of INT. Beyond that.... no one knows yet.

But the potential is obvious. Slapping a ton of SPR on a healer can now not only make them great healers, but also now monster mages. That's the short-range outlook. Long-term, this opens up a boatload of potential options for new offensive options based off of SPR on existing or likely new units to leverage this.




Yeah, it's event-based stuff. Someone correctly if I'm wrong, but the missions start appearing with the arrival of enhancements, I believe?

dude

ring of Lucii holy counter....

you think that will scale off SPR now?!
 
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