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Gordon Ramsay - Pineapple doesn't belong on Pizza!

Does pineapple belong on Pizza?


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I understand that most of these threads are mostly for laughs, but if you are actually upset about pineapple on pizza, I have two things to say.

I sincerely doubt anyone concerned about authenticity or anything like that are only eating it in its truly traditional Italian form.

You can make lots of things work on a pizza as long as you don't unbalance it in terms of flavors. The reason that people like pineapple/ham and pineapple/bacon together is salty/sweet is a combination that works well. Just pineapple probably doesn't work as well if your sauce is too sweet.
 
If you're into that, then it's fine and jus as legitimate as tomato and pineapple as toppings. Just because I don't prefer a topping doesn't mean I'm gonna tell others that their favorite ingredients "don't belong" on pizza or whatever.

Food for fun is okay. Food for functional sustenance is okay.

However, if you view 'fine cuisine' as a form of art or the culmination of hundreds of years of cultural experimentation and consensus, just throwing random shit in a pot and calling it Food X is either distasteful or ignorant. You're free to make new, different foods all you like, but you can't make champagne without grapes, you can't make an omelette without eggs. Blueberry pie filling isn't 'just as good' as putting mushroom & pepperoni on a pizza, any more than eating raw flour and sugar is 'just as good' as having a brownie. There are levels to this stuff once you start getting into the realm of discerning flavor and making culinary recommendations.

And thank you, this is officially the snobbiest post I've ever made on GAF. :p

Edit: And olives suck, sorry olive-GAF, even if Olive oil is one of the greatest contributors to a decent kitchen.
 

Davey Cakes

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I actually came around to olives on pizza, so long as they're used sparingly. On their own? Olives are the devil.

I don't mind pineapple in any application. But, I think if you're going to have it on pizza, you should use fresh pineapple and in little bits, along with some form of meat such as bacon or ham for that savory/sweet combo.
 

spineduke

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If the world alignment shifts and there are more people who like pinapple on pizza then those who don't, you know the end is coming.
 

Kaladin

Member
I turned heel on pineapple. Gordon made me see the light.

It's too juicy and acidic to really work on pizza.

Give me mushrooms and sausage over ham and pineapple any day.
 

Derwind

Member
Food for fun is okay. Food for functional sustenance is okay.

However, if you view 'fine cuisine' as a form of art or the culmination of hundreds of years of cultural experimentation and consensus, just throwing random shit in a pot and calling it Food X is either distasteful or ignorant. You're free to make new, different foods all you like, but you can't make champagne without grapes, you can't make an omelette without eggs. Blueberry pie filling isn't 'just as good' as putting mushroom & pepperoni on a pizza, any more than eating raw flour and sugar is 'just as good' as having a brownie. There are levels to this stuff once you start getting into the realm of discerning flavor and making culinary recommendations.

And thank you, this is officially the snobbiest post I've ever made on GAF. :p

Edit: And olives suck, sorry olive-GAF, even if Olive oil is one of the greatest contributors to a decent kitchen.

Standardizing food is not the pinacle of sophistication. Thats like saying limiting your palate makes you a foodie.

We can use the exact same ingredients to make a dish but what counts is the application and technique.

You can find amazing Pineapple pizzas and you can find shit ones too. With a multitude a variations & additions/omissions between them.

No different from any other food really.
 

Brhoom

Banned
I never tried it before.

Pizza hut
Dominos
Papa Johns

Which one serves the better pineapple pizza, and what should I put with it?
 

Derwind

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I never tried it before.

Pizza hut
Dominos
Papa Johns

Which one serves the better pineapple pizza, and what should I put with it?

I go to a local Pizza joint in my area in Toronto and they make everything to order and I love when they add garlic oil to my crust.

As fast food chains go, they all suck but I can get behind Pizzaiolos... if I'm desperate I go with Dominos but I've never tried pineapple pizza with them.
 
Ramsay and this GAF poll are both right. We win this war.
Nope. Just means more pineapple for the rest of us.

You can find amazing Pineapple pizzas and you can find shit ones too. With a multitude a variations & additions/omissions between them.
Absolutely. I never liked pineapple because I was sticking to the standard Hawaiian pizza archetype. Once I added sausage and jalapenos the flavor sang. Of course it also depends upon the pizza place.
 

Aiustis

Member
I never tried it before.

Pizza hut
Dominos
Papa Johns

Which one serves the better pineapple pizza, and what should I put with it?

Are there any other pizza joints where you live? Dominos is the only one of those 3 that I will even eat (as long as it was free)
 
Standardizing food is not the pinacle of sophistication. Thats like saying limiting your palate makes you a foodie.

We can use the exact same ingredients to make a dish but what counts is the application and technique.

You can find amazing Pineapple pizzas and you can find shit ones too. With a multitude a variations & additions/omissions between them.

No different from any other food really.

Having standards shouldn't be used interchangeably with 'standardization'. The poster I was responding to made the argument that since tomato is a fruit, naturally all fruit should be appropriate on pizza, to the absurdist extent that (my example of) blueberry pie filling would be an appropriate topping. It's a flawed argument because cooking doesn't work that way. Innovation and challenging your pallet is always important, but as I said, recipes only bend so far before they break and you're making a totally different food.
 

Derwind

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Having standards shouldn't be used interchangeably with 'standardization'. The poster I was responding to made the argument that since tomato is a fruit, naturally all fruit should be appropriate on pizza, to the absurdist extent that (my example of) blueberry pie filling would be an appropriate topping. It's a flawed argument because cooking doesn't work that way. Innovation and challenging your pallet is always important, but as I said, recipes only bend so far before they break and you're making a totally different food.

That's where I disagree, the method makes the food for me and doesn't solely break because of an addition of an ingredient.

How you implement it comes from technique and innovation.

I can make a sweet Pizza sauce from a variety of fruit, so long as it's done right. Infusing Yougurt into your crust could be something as well. Topping with lamb or goat cheese can be a thing as well.

It might not be conventional or traditional but in essence it's the same thing.

Unless this is more about branding or naming rights than I conced. However, I imagine creating a new name for a dish everytime you make one in the style of Traditional Italian Pizza probably will get tiring.

Anyways to each his own.
 
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OMFG I NEEDED THIS
 

Famassu

Member
Well I'll be damned that an acclaimed and successful chef has a better understanding of flavor profile and taste than you, and me, and everyone else putting fucking pineapple on pizza.

Pineapple is bad enough on its own, then you want to sully a perfectly good pizza with it?
Sweet and salty fit well together. Pineapple is used along with meat/faux meats & cheeses in a lot of dishes. There's no reason why pizza would be any different.
 

RM8

Member
I hate pineapple.

But I tolerate it on pizza. At first I didn't understand this weird fact, but it's pretty clear that pizza is so good, it even allows me to eat stuff I don't like otherwise. I don't love it, but I tolerate it.
 

Choabac

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You can make lots of things work on a pizza as long as you don't unbalance it in terms of flavors. The reason that people like pineapple/ham and pineapple/bacon together is salty/sweet is a combination that works well. Just pineapple probably doesn't work as well if your sauce is too sweet.

I agree with this. I enjoy an odd slice of Hawaiian pizza now and then, but I'm not a fan of pineapple in most other combinations.
 

Trace

Banned
I love your shows but I'm going to have to disagree.

Pineapple Pizza for life.

Yep.

I'm going to need IP logs for everyone that voted they don't like Pineapple on Pizza so I know who to lock up when I take over the Pizza making industry.
 
I understand that most of these threads are mostly for laughs, but if you are actually upset about pineapple on pizza, I have two things to say.

I don't want to sound overly harsh here, but do you feel that Gordon Ramsay was joking..? Like, I know his exaggerated TV personality is a bit, but there's been more than one instance of him shitting on pineapple as a pizza topping. It's not an acceptable pizza topping.

I sincerely doubt anyone concerned about authenticity or anything like that are only eating it in its truly traditional Italian form.

It's not simply that putting pineapple on a Pizza is inauthentic. Putting a myriad of other toppings on pizza would be considered "inauthentic", but they're justifiable pizza toppings. Pineapple is not, and will indeed never be.

You can make lots of things work on a pizza as long as you don't unbalance it in terms of flavors. The reason that people like pineapple/ham and pineapple/bacon together is salty/sweet is a combination that works well. Just pineapple probably doesn't work as well if your sauce is too sweet.

At a certain point it ceases to be a pizza.
 
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