Spladam
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Was wondering why you didn't post it here when I saw it in the Retro thread, great shots.
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Scanline screenshot thread. Because 240p is all the p's I need.
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Was wondering why you didn't post it here when I saw it in the Retro thread, great shots.
davidwhangchoi
Member
oh, i posted those for 7DollarHagane on retroGAF because this was using the RGB NES he sold me.
thanks man!
Very nice. Can you link to the retroGAF thread?
This is a modern indie game for PC and PS4. Luckily they use real native 240p
Laevateinn
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YesManKablam
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That kinda depends on what settings you can change on your camera. You'll need to sync the shutter speed to the screen's refresh rate. Use a aperture of f8 or f11. Make sure there's no background lights, as it's easy to wash out the screen if there is. Manual focus may make it easy too.
Oh, and get in close.
I use an iPhone SE as well, just download Camera+ from the App Store, lets you change shutter speed (set it to 1/60th of a second, should get a full frame in a shot with no black banding), ISO settings, has a nice image stabilizer. It´s what I´ve been using on iOS for the last couple of years.
Tarin02543
Member
^^^^
that looks absolutely fantastic. There's something about scanlines that makes me...happy?
that looks absolutely fantastic. There's something about scanlines that makes me...happy?
davidwhangchoi
Member
looks boss =)Got the rgb cable for the Nt. Looks and plays fantastic.
davidwhangchoi
Member
did you try messing with the different color palettes on the NT? my RGB nes has a play choice 10 pallet that makes the colors look greenish. RGB pallet which makes it more red and a Fixed Color Pallet. for Zanac the tips of my bullets are more pink in one mode over the other.
SmiteOfHand
Member
Got the rgb cable for the Nt. Looks and plays fantastic.
<3 Aicom
I have it on the firebrandX one. I've been playing Super Fami and Wii but looked fine. The color temp is set to D93. Menus on the PVM are bright white. Games on the NT are red. Hmm.
sixteen-bit
Member
Got the rgb cable for the Nt. Looks and plays fantastic.
Love this game!
Probably wouldn't be too hard to make one! Actually, wouldn't be surprised if something similar could be bought from a cheap Chinese knock-off site like DX or Alibaba.
Pretty amazed by it. Takes a lot because I barely respond or care for anything NES outside of Bionic Commando or the Marios.
What game is it?
A game called Astyanax. Close to Legendary Axe.
davidwhangchoi
Member
looks awesome, going to grab that title now =)
You're going to be a huge collector at this rate!
davidwhangchoi
Member
thanks Timu! not as big as some of the guys here but trying to grab the good ones=)
I am a huge fan of a ton of Nes-games - but still love this one. So we can agree on that
OSSC outputs to vga?
Xbox though the OSSC via a pcCRT. Vertical scanlines plus the monitor's own subtle 480p scanlines remind me of my Sony consumer CRT picture (but sharper).
Unfortunately not! I should have said I'm using a DAC, one of those cheap HDMI to VGA dongles. Are you getting an OSSC, Peltz?
I don't plan on it. But it's nice to know what's out there and how stuff works.
You say that now, Peltz, but you will...I actually hadn't planned on getting an OSSC but I'm glad I did as it'll come in handy for when my CRTs die T_T
Funny you mentioned that. I have a Framemeister for precisely that same reason but I really don't like it. I would definitely consider selling it to fund an OSSC which seems like a better device for my interests.
But as you said, those interests would be only for future-proofing purposes in case my CRTs kick the bucket before I do. I much prefer a native image on CRT over a scaled one on a fixed pixel HDTV.
Beer Monkey
Member
Dupe post, my bad.
Beer Monkey
Member
I look forward to the day that devices that obsolete the NT Mini and OSSC are simulating a variety of actual phosphor triads in 4K. Think 81 pixels (243 subpixels) per triad and using millions of colors to build the frame. Partnered with a few more generations of OLED improvements it's gonna be stunning.
I didn't think I would be impressed by the OSSC on my flat screen monitor and tv but they do close the gap more than I thought. Motion resolution isn't there though and colours imo aren't as nice and so I still prefer using my pcCRT.
Same, having dabbled with RetroArch and CRT shaders I think what could be done would look incredible on a 4k OLED. I've yet to see an OLED tv in the flesh but Bahn Yuki on shmups has been posting vids of his LG and saying there's no blur. Just need to be patient for prices to come down and burn in to (hopefully) be eliminated.
Beer Monkey
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The focus of old TVs (and the dot pitch) isn't very sharp so scanlines will typically be basically touching when compared to pro/broadcast monitors.
I got an old CRT TV and there is nothing better to the original hardware to shine. One thing that catch my eye is that scanlines are way invisible in comparison with emulator filters. This scanlines we use in modern emulators are not a very wrong simulation of old tvs?
I like TVs that look like this.
Beer Monkey
Member
That's what gaming at home looked like back in the day on most TVs. It didn't look like a PVM with the razor sharp scanlines (rasters) and the huge blank gaps in between.
More expensive 80s and 90s sets like large Sony Trinitrons were somewhere in between. Very few middle class families I knew splurged that much back then. Every time I saw a 25" Trinitron in the late 80s or early 90s it was in a home of a family of wealth.
Theonik
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Depends on the quality of the TV. Because the dot pitch of these small TVs was quite low, it is quite common that the scanlines will be hardly visible. Where the old model of simulating scalines fails is that only one line is lit up even on those TVs, what will vary is how visible the gap is. The other thing that they often messed up is they used a fixed size mask to simulate the scanlines and that did not correspond with the scanlines in the game. These panels were not fixed resolution so the scanlines will depend on content.I got an old CRT TV and there is nothing better to the original hardware to shine. One thing that catch my eye is that scanlines are way invisible in comparison with emulator filters. This scanlines we use in modern emulators are not a very wrong simulation of old tvs?
Finally there are no square pixels. In a CRT you see continuous lines of resolution. A pixel will actually have round edges. This might be hidden depending on your display and particularly its size.
Diabolical
Neo Member
Awesome thread.
Just can't get enough of that "vintage" artwork, especially when it's presented via detailed scanline filtering.
Just can't get enough of that "vintage" artwork, especially when it's presented via detailed scanline filtering.
theSlacker
Member
Holy shit...
That triggered some serious nostalgia. Didn't think I would see the value in composite on Genesis after getting use to RGB.
That triggered some serious nostalgia. Didn't think I would see the value in composite on Genesis after getting use to RGB.
