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Xbox Scorpio reveal on Thursday at 2pm UK / 6am Pacific by Eurogamer/DF

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AFAIK the only arch between Steamroller (Jaguar) and Zen is Excavator which is 15% faster than Steamroller.
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Yeah, I agree. I'm on Pro, so I'm less likely to complain about it haha, but as you say. It works fine for PC as a platform. Most people wouldn't even notice, and if you're _hardcore_ you should probably get a Pro / Scorpio anyway.

Exactly! If you are that bothered about FPS, you ought to be on the better version.

I can see the difference between sub 30FPS and 60FPS but other than that I'm ambivalent.
 

ISee

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I know it's trash compared to Zen but it's still way better than Jaguar and it's probably cheaper to make in a 14nm node than Zen is. Hasn't AMD said no Zen CPU in custom hardware until 2018?

Ravenridge (Zen based apus) are supposed to show up in the second half of 2017. This was confirmed by AMD earlier this year. But they are supposed to only come with one Zen CPU-Complex (CCX) --> only 4 Zen cores. There are supposed to be two forms. One 170mm^2 die with 4 Zen cores and 12 Compute Units and one 210mm^2 die with 4 Zen cores, 16 Compute Units and HBM2 support.
There are currently no plans (as far as we know) for 8 core zen apus.
 

Izuna

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Any livestream for this?

I don't mean official, like, hyped up crazy people like that one dude who freaks out at Kendrick music
 
I think MS will go back to the traditional discrete CPU and GPU design. Only way I see them packing an 8 cores Zen inside and allowing 200 or more watts inside.
 
I'll be interested to see how this presented. Using Digital Foundry in this manner tells me they want to communicate to the technical crowd very clearly. Specifically, I imagine they want to play up how big of an upgrade it will offer over PS4 Pro.
 

Majine

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I notice PS4 Pro has a "Worlds most powerful console" sticker on them, atleast here in Europe.

Will they
A) Delegate the job to some poor guy to remove those stickers this holiday
B) Make sure they sell those units
C) Don't care!
 

Tregard

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I notice PS4 Pro has a "Worlds most powerful console" sticker on them, atleast here in Europe.

Will they
A) Delegate the job to some poor guy to remove those stickers this holiday
B) Make sure they sell those units
C) Don't care!

They may be able to cheese it and claim they mean powerful in terms of exclusive titles or fun or something like that
 

64bitbros

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So no Jaguar and no Zen? What is left? Bulldozer or variant like Excavator, which are desktop parts? Don't tell me they switched to Intel? Nah... that would be hell on developers.
 

Izuna

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I notice PS4 Pro has a "Worlds most powerful console" sticker on them, atleast here in Europe.

Will they
A) Delegate the job to some poor guy to remove those stickers this holiday
B) Make sure they sell those units
C) Don't care!

most powerful playstation
 

ISee

Member
I notice PS4 Pro has a "Worlds most powerful console" sticker on them, atleast here in Europe.

Will they
A) Delegate the job to some poor guy to remove those stickers this holiday
B) Make sure they sell those units
C) Don't care!

They'll just add a "made by Sony" sticker.
 
I notice PS4 Pro has a "Worlds most powerful console" sticker on them, atleast here in Europe.

Will they
A) Delegate the job to some poor guy to remove those stickers this holiday
B) Make sure they sell those units
C) Don't care!

If there's enough flak I'm sure they'll change it.
 

thatJohann

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So is it just gonna be a YouTube video going over the specs on a list without any hardware or name or games? If so, this has been REALLY overblown in this thread.
 
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