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For people suggesting and hoping for a dockless "Switch", what would it be called?
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For people suggesting and hoping for a dockless "Switch", what would it be called?
So you're saying in your idea that the system is no different than the current Switch, it's just that thetoasterdock is sold separately rather than bundled in? That'd only knock off what, $25 or so, from the price?
For people suggesting and hoping for a dockless "Switch", what would it be called?
You're wrong, you can use the TV-out abilities it's just the connector is sold separately, hence basic.
What about the USB charger and HDMI cable? Included, Sold separately or have to buy it yourself third party?
I don't understand this switchless, dockless, joyconless, Switch people think will appear. I mean it is technically possible, but think about it for a moment.
The logo are the joycons.
The name is Switch.
The messaging would be really strange to get rid of the very core aspects of the Switch hardware. The components will gradually drop in price anyway, there is no need to try and cut 100$ off the current price. It is selling well, and the dock and joycons add to the value which people are willing to pay.
I believe that the more like a handheld and less like a console the Switch is, the less likely Nintendo is able to charge over $200 for it.
I don't believe a second there will be a smaller Switch.They can't make a smaller Switch and keep the Joy-cons. And it's Nintendo, they will make a smaller, more accessible version.
I can definitely see a smaller Switch happening, especially to appease 3DS players who used the smaller versions (I.E. the OG 3DS & the regular n3DS). Though I'd imagine that there would still be a way to dock it.I don't believe a second there will be a smaller Switch.
What about the USB charger? It's just an A/C adapter. HDMI cable would obviously be omitted since there's no USB-C to HDMI dongle included. What asinine line of questioning is this?
Unsurprisingly, the tablet part of the Switch costs the most to manufacture. Fomalhaut estimates that it costs about $167; touchscreen, processor and dock. Out of the whole thing, the USB-C power supply and Nvidia processor (custom-made for the Switch) are the most expensive components.
With the Joy-Con, on the other hand, its a little more difficult. The HD rumble modules dont appear to have any ID marks, so that made the pricing process more complicated. Eventually, Fomalhaut ended up estimating the cost of producing a Joy-Con at $45. The retail price for one Joy-Con is $50. The estimate doesnt include the Joy-Con grip, but I doubt it adds much to the cost.
I don't know, seems to me that the dock wouldn't contribute much to a price reduction.
Unsurprisingly, the tablet part of the Switch costs the most to manufacture. Fomalhaut estimates that it costs about $167; touchscreen, processor and dock. Out of the whole thing, the USB-C power supply and Nvidia processor (custom-made for the Switch) are the most expensive components.
With the Joy-Con, on the other hand, its a little more difficult. The HD rumble modules dont appear to have any ID marks, so that made the pricing process more complicated. Eventually, Fomalhaut ended up estimating the cost of producing a Joy-Con at $45. The retail price for one Joy-Con is $50. The estimate doesnt include the Joy-Con grip, but I doubt it adds much to the cost./quote]
http://www.gosunoob.com/news/nintendo-switch-manufacturing-cost-estimated-teardown-company/
I'm not arguing that it would, only that they could sell a Switch+USB charger as a Basic package and cut maybe $50 tops.
The Switch also comes with that grip and the straps, I don't use them. So I put them in a drawer. If you don't need the extra docks, then just put them away. You won't save money on a package just because it's missing a cheap bit of plastic.I totally disagree with that. A dockless SKU would be ideal for a family. I don't need 3 docks, one is enough.
I don't believe for a second that there won't be, so we will have to leave it at thatI don't believe a second there will be a smaller Switch.
The dock has a price. The manutention, the storage space to handle a bigger packaging has a price, the shipment of bigger packaging has a price. This dockless SKU will allow them to sell the system at a mass market price for families.The Switch also comes with that grip and the straps, I don't use them. So I put them in a drawer. If you don't need the extra docks, then just put them away. You won't save money on a package just because it's missing a cheap bit of plastic.
Also, it's not the plastic part of the dock that drives its cost. There's electronics inside and as posted multiple times, any equivalent dock/hub from reputable brands costs $50 at least.The dock has a price. The manutention, the storage space to handle a bigger packaging has a price, the shipment of bigger packaging has a price. This dockless SKU will allow them to sell the system at a mass market price for families.
Plus USB-C docks similar to the Switch's cost around the same as the Switch dock does (though in the Switch's case, its dock includes an HDMI cable & a power plug at retail).Also, it's not the plastic part of the dock that drives its cost. There's electronics inside and as posted multiple times, any equivalent dock/hub from reputable brands costs $50 at least.
You know, if you turn the Switch logo on its side, it looks like a hamburger.
The dock is not in the name. The ability to Switch will still be there. I know so many parents with multiple kids all owning their 3DS. When Pokemon or Animal Crossing are ready you can bet Nintendo will want to sell them Switch at a mass market price. Some parents will already have a dock. Others won't and won't care. Others will care but decide to buy the dock later, because what their kids really ask for is Pokemon Switch.I can't imagine Nintendo sells the Switch without the dock.
It's the USP of the system. It's in the name.
I don't believe for a second that there won't be, so we will have to leave it at that
I don't believe for a second that there won't be, so we will have to leave it at that
Off SwitchFor people suggesting and hoping for a dockless "Switch", what would it be called?
Isn't it?The dock is not in the name. The ability to Switch will still be there. I know so many parents with multiple kids all owning their 3DS. When Pokemon or Animal Crossing are ready you can bet Nintendo will want to sell them Switch at a mass market price. Some parents will already have a dock. Others won't and won't care. Others will care but decide to buy the dock later, because what their kids really ask for is Pokemon Switch.
For people suggesting and hoping for a dockless "Switch", what would it be called?
Anybody in the market for multiple Switches is going to have multiple TVs, and thus will have a use for multiple docks. Nintendo shouldn't sell dock-less units. It just opens up all kinds of residual issues (Why can't I plug this into the TV??? I thought that was the point???)
We have a better chance at a switch XL than a switch MiniI don't believe a second there will be a smaller Switch.
Why would anyone in the market for multiple switches have multiple tvs? I have 0 tvs and I have 1 Switch. If I had a gf or kids that also wanted a game they could get a Switch. That's the whole beauty of it.
And it will be the same size but with a bigger screen (no bezel), as long as better batteries come up in 2 years.We have a better chance at a switch XL than a switch Mini
And it will be the same size but with a bigger screen (no bezel), as long as better batteries come up in 2 years.
I think it will be bigger with joy-con XLs to go with it. The only way to get better battery life these days is to put a bigger one in there.And it will be the same size but with a bigger screen (no bezel), as long as better batteries come up in 2 years.
I think selling a dockless version of the switch would be a mistake and go against what the console is being perceived as of right now.
I would argue that most people are playing the switch in handheld mode but despite that, do not consider it a handheld at all. If they did consider it as a handheld first then Nintendo wouldn't be able to charge $300 for it and have it sell as much as it is.
From people I have talked to about the switch, they view it as a traditional home console that they can also take on the go as opposed to the opposite.
Families tend to have more than one TV in this day and age. A guy living in a bachelor pad has one, but then again he's not going to be buying multiple Switches for himself. Your girlfriend doesn't have a TV at her own place? If you have kids who are into tech enough to want one Switch each, you're only going to have one TV for the whole family? If so, you'd be the exception.
You say you don't have a TV, which is fine, but again, that's the exception.
Does it matter what Nintendo considers first? It's a hybrid that can be played however the user wants to play it. It's unnecessary to worry about pricing in relation to the platform it's considered. I mean, Nintendo considered the 3ds a traditional handheld and charged 250 dollars at launch before cutting. That's why the pricing argument doesn't work well (never mind that it disregards the cost of components within the Switch).
Yeah but you said everyone. Switch doesn't need a tv, which is why it is awesome. It offers so many variations on how it can be used. Sure most people have at least one tv, but i can imagine many households that could have more Switches than TVs. I'm not planning on having kids (or a tv lol) anytime soon. And nah my girl doesn't have a tv or a Switch either for that matter.
I think selling a dockless version of the switch would be a mistake and go against what the console is being perceived as of right now.
I would argue that most people are playing the switch in handheld mode but despite that, do not consider it a handheld at all. If they did consider it as a handheld first then Nintendo wouldn't be able to charge $300 for it and have it sell as much as it is.
From people I have talked to about the switch, they view it as a traditional home console that they can also take on the go as opposed to the opposite.
Switch GoFor people suggesting and hoping for a dockless "Switch", what would it be called?
Switch Go
Switch Lite
Switch Mobile
... I don't know, it's nintendo, these things are impossible to predict.
(I do think they'll do a portable-only version at some point, but I don't know when the tech will make that possible)
And you don't think the words you added contradict the meaning and marketing behind Switch? "Hey how come I can't switch into TV mode, wtf did I buy a Switch Go/Mobile/Lite for?!?!"
One things for sure, having Nintendo be relevant again has breathed some life back into sales age. Whether the switch is a roaring success or sells poorly the next few years will be a lot more interesting sales age wise. It's certainly getting s lot more heated discussion anyway. This holiday season will be a blood bath.
Good for Nintendo, Zelda must have sold a shit load
They would find a way. I mean, they did with the 2DS.
Maybe "Can't Switch it"
NPD April 2008 is still one of my favourite threads in GAF history. The disbelief was amazing. Everybody was preparing for GTA IV kicking ass and helping 360 and PS3 sales, but... well... something else happened.One things for sure, having Nintendo be relevant again has breathed some life back into sales age. Whether the switch is a roaring success or sells poorly the next few years will be a lot more interesting sales age wise. It's certainly getting s lot more heated discussion anyway. This holiday season will be a blood bath.
This is a big challenge for Nintendo if they do indeed go down this route with the Switch.And you don't think the words you added contradict the meaning and marketing behind Switch? "Hey how come I can't switch into TV mode, wtf did I buy a Switch Go/Mobile/Lite for?!?!"