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Arkham Asylum Mafia |OT| It's time to kill the Bat

acohrs

Member
Will reread back now and do another read of splinter. Lost my train of thought whilst reading back his posts and for some reason thought he was still voting kalor in 666. Only realised he wasn't after Dr worms list
Sorry splints
 

franconp

Member
Total Posts:

Terrabyte20xx 25
MickD 27
Fat4all 62
StarSketch 9
Verelios 19
AbsolutBro 11
*Splinter 19
TheWorthyEdge 0
Royal_Flush 11
Lifeline 43
Dr. Worm 45
Faddy 41
Timeaisis 21
Nudull 5
SexyFish 25
batsnacks 33
Kalor 15
Fireblend 23
That Dude John 3
acohrs 35
Mazre 8
Zippedpinhead 10
Sorian 69
Natiko 48
 

Timeaisis

Member
I really don't get the "X votes are lazy" criticism. Dunno what the point of those comments are, other than to criticize a vote without having any actual point against it. Like ok... It's "lazy", so what?

I made some homemade chili for chili dogs.

Oh cool chili dogs.
 

Fat4all

Banned
I really don't understand the Terra votes. So he humored Lifeline and voted for acohrs, so what?

Because of his initial use of a 'pressure vote' and what that amounted to:

Terrabyte seems very uneven in their play so far, I dunno how they could be read as town so easily. They voted for Lifeline in their first post, but has since done nothing to try and debate or argue points with Lifeline in any real sense. When this was touched upon, Terra responded with:

Lifeline hasn't posted enough for me to truely say one way or the other. I picked him to add pressure and see where it goes.

But Lifeline has been fairly active in this early game. Terra says he wants to put pressure on Lifeline, but the only pressure he's put on them is a single vote and nothing else. No questioning him, no nothing.

Terrabyte's other posts are basically nothing, musings about the futility of reads and speculations on day one, so nothing really to pull from or work with at all.

It made his change in attitude later jarring. His follow up comments didn't smooth things over either, and instead opted to just drop the vote on acohrs as well.
 

Kalor

Member
I'm looking at other candidates besides Terra as I've sort of waned of them and no-one is sticking out particularly. I'll look at Lifeline again but their tunneling struck me as more as town than scum when I read it.
 

Dr. Worm

Banned
I'm trusting Lifeline less and less now. batsnacks tunnels are hard to argue with - there's a kernel of truth to them. Timeaisis also made an excellent point with his timeline of events. Then:

Terra votes make less sense than Kalor votes. There have been far weirder votes and flips in Day 1 than Terra humoring me with a acohrs vote. Since this is about to come down to Kalor vs Terra, and I might not be around for the end, I'm going to change my vote.

VOTE: Kalor

again, a Kalor vote without reasoning

I know I'm gonna look hella batfam in the whatever chance Kalor eventually flips town for focusing on this, but this is freaking me out how many people are jumping on this
 
I really don't get the "X votes are lazy" criticism. Dunno what the point of those comments are, other than to criticize a vote without having any actual point against it. Like ok... It's "lazy", so what?



Oh cool chili dogs.

I mean throwing a vote out there just to have a vote out isn't really worth anything.

There's not much of a chance anyone will follow up on it if it's just there.
 

Lifeline

Member
My vote for Kalor is just there to not turn the end of the day lynching into "Terra is the closest and we have to lynch someone, so might as well vote him."

If two people are close in votes (it might end up being me and Terra now actually instead of Kalor and Terra), voting patterns will mean a lot more.
 

*Splinter

Member
*Splinter - following post looks scummy
I know you already realised I unvoted, but this was wrong anyway. The part I misremembered was irrelevant to the initial vote, it only made me question my read of Lifeline.

Also find it weird that you say "started a wagon" instead of simply "voted", like you're trying to paint that as some scummy action. The post in question wasn't even an aggressive push on Kalor.

(I slightly over-deleted that quote, oh well)
 

Natiko

Banned
My vote for Kalor is just there to not turn the end of the day lynching into "Terra is the closest and we have to lynch someone, so might as well vote him."

If two people are close in votes (it might end up being me and Terra now actually instead of Kalor and Terra), voting patterns will mean a lot more.
How does the same person willingly tunneling on a very specific "scum team" D1 turn around and also post this?
 
Because of his initial use of a 'pressure vote' and what that amounted to:



It made his change in attitude later jarring. His follow up comments didn't smooth things over either, and instead opted to just drop the vote on acohrs as well.
Most pressure votes go nowhere tho. About as useful a pattern maker as an RNG vote.

I do find it funny that despite all the talk about acohrs, he ends with 0 votes and Lifeline is 2nd in votes. If he's scum, Acohrs dodged a pretty big batarang.
 

Lifeline

Member
How does the same person willingly tunneling on a very specific "scum team" D1 turn around and also post this?

It's pretty obvious no one's going to be voting for my scum team. I can put out a pointless vote for Acorns, but voting for someone I don't think is mafia is the better play here.
 

Faddy

Banned
It's better than most of the other reasonings for day one votes so far, and Terra hasn't done much to dissuade his tumblings. You call those voting for Terra lazy, but I find your voting for Natiko to be equally as 'lazy'.

I'm always open to hear better suggestions for who to vote for, though, or for Terra to jump in on why they shouldn't be voted on.

I notice you cut off the second part of my post. Weird

How is my Natiko vote lazy? It is noticing his voting pattern and reasoning is fairly safe and very scummy. That was built on his early play of jumping on inactives and generally poor reasoning and explanations in his posts.
 

Natiko

Banned
It's pretty obvious no one's going to be voting for my scum team. I can put out a pointless vote for Acorns, but voting for someone I don't think is mafia is the better play here.
I mean more in the sense that thinking you solved the whole game on D1 was naive but knowing that having multiple people in the running towards day end is best.
 

Fat4all

Banned
Most pressure votes go nowhere tho. About as useful a pattern maker as an RNG vote.

While that is true of pressure votes, the fact that he used it as a pressure vote, clarified later to others that it was a pressure vote, and still didn't put any actual pressure on Lifeline is quite at odds with how they planned to shift to acohrs.

It may just be a small instance that Terra handled awkwardly, but I feel like it's the strongest signal we might have out of anyone so far, given it being day one.



I'm wondering what the reasoning for the Kalor build up is, though. It kinda just started early in the day and slowly rolled down hill to being a lead vote.
 

Verelios

Member
Most pressure votes go nowhere tho. About as useful a pattern maker as an RNG vote.

I do find it funny that despite all the talk about acohrs, he ends with 0 votes and Lifeline is 2nd in votes. If he's scum, Acohrs dodged a pretty big batarang.
Most people who do pressure votes actually...you know, apply some pressure in some way though. He didn't, that's the problem. It looked like Terra just voted without much thought, how can that be a pressure vote?
 

Lifeline

Member
Most pressure votes go nowhere tho. About as useful a pattern maker as an RNG vote.

I do find it funny that despite all the talk about acohrs, he ends with 0 votes and Lifeline is 2nd in votes. If he's scum, Acohrs dodged a pretty big batarang.

Acohrs wouldn't be the one dodging batarangs.
 

Fat4all

Banned
As for those voting me, I have explained my reasoning, I can't change truth. If you choose to reject it is your own problem.

Your reasoning was, like, a sarcastic line and a hand wave. It would help just to hear what you think about other players in general, so we could get more of a feel for how your playing the game.
 

Dr. Worm

Banned
let the record stand that I think Terrabyte is a victim of awkward play being jumped on, as described in the Book of Mazre 1:6
 

Lifeline

Member
Most people who do pressure votes actually...you know, apply some pressure in some way though. He didn't, that's the problem. It looked like Terra just voted without much thought, how can that be a pressure vote?

Maybe because I've been fairly active in this game, and Terra was satisfied just watching where i was going rather than interjecting with his own questions. There have been some people here that voted randomly to pressure people or voted inactives to force them to post, but ended up changing their votes without actually getting the inactives or randoms to start talking. That sounds more suspicious to me.


I mean more in the sense that thinking you solved the whole game on D1 was naive but knowing that having multiple people in the running towards day end is best.

I don't think I've solved the whole game, but if Acorns is mafia, then I'm sure i've solved most of the mafia.
 

Dr. Worm

Banned
ICYMI, Lifeline, you stand a better chance to influence the vote one way or another against Terrabyte by siding voting Mazre or Natiko - they have two votes each, while you're the second vote on Kalor, meaning you can be vote #3

like, if Terrabyte is Trump, you do better jumping to Clinton (one of those two) than staying on Kalor (the Bernie Sanders of this game)
 

batsnacks

Member
There have been some people here that voted randomly to pressure people or voted inactives to force them to post, but ended up changing their votes without actually getting the inactives or randoms to start talking. That sounds more suspicious to me.

who?
 

acohrs

Member
I know you already realised I unvoted, but this was wrong anyway. The part I misremembered was irrelevant to the initial vote, it only made me question my read of Lifeline.

Also find it weird that you say "started a wagon" instead of simply "voted", like you're trying to paint that as some scummy action. The post in question wasn't even an aggressive push on Kalor.

(I slightly over-deleted that quote, oh well)

Whilst rereading your posts, I reread #662 and your Dr. Worm quote in #666, so naturally I assumed that you had started the wagon. That was a mistake as well as still thinking you had the vote still on Kalor in #666, so mea culpa.

Ok new read of *splinter:
Null, not much to say really, few reads in #579 but not much else. Has admitted that he's been busy, so expect more from him in the next few days. Like some other null reads, need more data.
 

Lifeline

Member
I'm pretty sure the voting is coming down to two towns. Whether that's me and Terra or Kalor and Terra.

Mafia would be better off not voting for any of above, if town can complete a lynch without their actual votes. If someone's needs to be topped off to get the majority, mafia would be more comfortable with Terra since there's a lot more there to hide behind.
 

acohrs

Member
I'm pretty sure the voting is coming down to two towns. Whether that's me and Terra or Kalor and Terra.

Mafia would be better off not voting for any of above, if town can complete a lynch without their actual votes. If someone's needs to be topped off to get the majority, mafia would be more comfortable with Terra since there's a lot more there to hide behind.

If it's between two towns, then why are you voting??
 

Verelios

Member
I'm pretty sure the voting is coming down to two towns. Whether that's me and Terra or Kalor and Terra.

Mafia would be better off not voting for any of above, if town can complete a lynch without their actual votes. If someone's needs to be topped off to get the majority, mafia would be more comfortable with Terra since there's a lot more there to hide behind.
Why are you so sure they're town? I haven't seen anything specific that tells me that.
 

Lifeline

Member
If it's between two towns, then why are you voting??

I already explained my reasoning a few votes back.


Why are you so sure they're town? I haven't seen anything specific that tells me that.

It's the way people have bandwagoned on them. It feels unnatural and has mafia presence written all over it. The ball got rolling on Kalor just because of his kinda defense of my unvote. It made no sense, since people like Sorian and Fireblend have defended others before and many other players had defended other players afterwards but there was only a reaction to Kalor defending. Felt like Mafia thought they had a good opportunity to start a bandwagon there.

Same with Terra, he's done less than what others have, but the reaction to him has been the strongest.
 

batsnacks

Member
There have been some people here that voted randomly to pressure people or voted inactives to force them to post, but ended up changing their votes without actually getting the inactives or randoms to start talking. That sounds more suspicious to me.

for emphasis, if Lifeline can actually name some names here I think this would be the first time in the game he said someone was scummy for non-association stuff. :O
 

Dr. Worm

Banned
Lifeline, the Kalor voters I'm looking at batsnacks, *Splinter, and SexyFish.

Vote for one of them, and I'll back you up. I'm serious; I'd like to see this through as well.
 
I've been trying to fix my raspbian for those juicy last minute swings, but I'm not overly confident I can get it done in time. Get ready for day end without voting tool.

This Terra thing still is bullshit.
Vote: Mazre

Because he is my eternal blindspot. There are quite some other options I'd also take over Terra. Lifeline and bats come to mind.
 

Terrabyte20xx

Junior Wrestlemania XXX Champion
Your reasoning was, like, a sarcastic line and a hand wave. It would help just to hear what you think about other players in general, so we could get more of a feel for how your playing the game.
First I'll refer to this:
Okay, so After a full thread re-read, I feel uneasy about the following:

Mazre: doesn't post a lot, when he does it comes off to me like someone poking a fire with a stick and trying to see what catches fire. But does it in a way so that he doesn't get hit with the fall out when it does.

Verelios: Posts well enough, but nothing about him sticks out, like he's just kinda waiting for something.

For what it's worth, neither have a vote on the board according to the latest vote count. See as every got on me for unvoting without a replacement, I guess that's scummy.


Zippedpinhead: gut read scum, like everytime I play with him. *shrug*


MickD: I don't even know what that last page was about. Reminds me of Blarg, except without the method to his madness.

Kalor: another guy who just doesn't sit right, for some reason it feels like he has less posts than he actually does, I thought he was just skiming by, but when I looked at his count he was well above the minimum.

Timeasis: Gut, he just feels off, can't really explain it. Also, OMGUS.

Fireblend: Blendy. Doesn't stand out, and actually gives off a nice town vibe. Yet is also on the no vote patrol. I would keep my eye on him. I just have this uneasy feeling like he's actually scum despite everything else saying otherwise.

I was originally going to go verelios, but with time on the board, I need to post a vote that actually matters. With that said, the one I like the least of this group is Mazre.

VOTE: Mazre

If I had thought more about him yesterday I actually would have put a vote on Fireblend just to see what would happen, but I guess that's my fault for not doing a whole day re read until now.

Now as for others, I'm disappointed in Sorian, Zippedpinhead, *splinter, and anyone else who have played games with me. They know how I play, how I use my vote, and have all stayed very quiet on the issue of me. This is probably the 3rd time in my last four games where I have been called out for posts and tactics that I do on the regular and have been on the chopping block for day one. Every time I give a form of defense, I get hounded on and nothing I ever say changes things.


At this point I don't care anymore.
 

acohrs

Member
First I'll refer to this:


Now as for others, I'm disappointed in Sorian, Zippedpinhead, *splinter, and anyone else who have played games with me. They know how I play, how I use my vote, and have all stayed very quiet on the issue of me. This is probably the 3rd time in my last four games where I have been called out for posts and tactics that I do on the regular and have been on the chopping block for day one. Every time I give a form of defense, I get hounded on and nothing I ever say changes things.


At this point I don't care anymore.

the feck? You said metareads on D1 are useless, but now you're appealing to players you've played with to use their metaread of you to townread you? Do you see the contradiction?
 
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