DietRob
i've been begging for over 5 years.
What is the proper not greedy amount to accept?
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Pres Obama now doing $400k speeches for Wall Street
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What is the proper not greedy amount to accept?
old manatee
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400,000 is like 10 minutes worth of sex workers and cocaine for Wall Street. He's really funneling em dry.
Spyder_Monkey
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I'm sure the republicans will as they also continue to take money from Wallstreet.
The Silver
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all I have to do is become president to get 400k to talk? Why didn't anyone tell me it was that easy?
Meus Renaissance
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I'm on the subway right now shaking my head in disbelief in some of the mental gymnastics at display here. I'll respond to every reply after work later.
Hey that's a damn good book only crazy right wingers don't like it*.
*May not be true but should be
What if he speaks to them about income inequality?
What if he takes their money and invests it in his community outreach and social work charity?
So I'm doing mental gymnastics huh? You can't seem to think post "money bad;". What do you call that? Mental standing there not moving?
Massive Duck. C.M.
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Honestly, don't fucking bother.
BennyBlanco
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What would you rather Clinton be doing?
Would depend on what you want to do after your presidency and how credible you want to be. This isn't what the Demoratic party needed.
VendettaRed07
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There isn't anything wrong with it if he isn't running for any office again. Or heavily involved in party politics and pushing or trying to influence the parties agenda or who they run with. If he isn't, he won't really be in much of a position for a "quid pro quo" and it really is just a speech he's getting paid for.
Basically if he is like bill and basically doesn't really say much he can do what he wants.
This is fucking bullshit though if he plans on sticking around. It was wrong for Hillary to do it prior to her run and it is wrong if Obama tries to influence the party in any meaningful way whilst talking that sort of special interest kickback.
Basically if he is like bill and basically doesn't really say much he can do what he wants.
This is fucking bullshit though if he plans on sticking around. It was wrong for Hillary to do it prior to her run and it is wrong if Obama tries to influence the party in any meaningful way whilst talking that sort of special interest kickback.
Admiral Woofington
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I don't think I've ever looked at a current event and thought to myself "boy I wonder what Beyonce has to say" lolIn the eternal words of Beyoncé...
He is obviously taking their money as a quid pro quo and going to sign a bunch of wall st friendly EOs any minute now...
Spyder_Monkey
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Clinton and Obama have nothing to do with politics anymore.
Dubya did this exact same stuff w/ speaking gigs. He even got in trouble for charging a vet's group for a speech! (tbf, that was probably his agent and he didn't know.)
And it's only bad optics because people made such a big deal of it during the 2016 campaign. It wouldn't even have been worth a headline let alone a whole news story had it not been for this very thing being used as a weapon against a candidate in 2016.
This is the political equivalent of an appearance fee. He could get drunk and hype Kendrick's new album for all they really care.
This is generally what ex-Presidents do. Actually the most value he has to the party now (and this will probably continue to be the case) is as a tool for fundraising.
titiklabingapat
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Fuck this purity bullshit. Berniestan need to seriously stahp it. Ex-Presidents and other high profile people do this all the time. It was only a big deal because Hillary did it too and it was easy to attack her on it. Now it is creeping in on Obama too because of the shit-stirring that won't stop.
Garrett Hawke
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Idk, parting so much money from fat cats for such little effort seems kind of iconic.
shinra-bansho
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You, me and everyone else.
Fast-forward to 2015, and McConaughey is doing better than merely "alright" in terms of his earning potential for a given day. After hounding the University of Houston to release the terms of the actor's commencement appearance, the Houston Chronicle reported that McConaughey's fee was $135,000 plus travel and expensesmoney that McConaughey said he was giving to charity.
135k for Matthew Mcconaughey in 2015.
2Smashed4U
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Do you think Wall Street would give an iota of a shit about income equality even if Jesus Christ himself preached about it to them?
I assume it is going to charity which is good, but I also can't imagine Barry is hurting for money in that regard either.
Great post; telling people not to explain themselves. You sir are above us all, we bow to your intellect which is too precious to share with us peons.
Yeah my step dad made a big thing out of this today, claiming none of the big 3 "liberal" newspapers reported it. I think it was LA Times, Washington Post , and New York Times. Not that I really think it is a big story, but yeah there is something to the idea that this is a bit hypocritical. Unless of course he takes the money while making a condemning speech about the practices of the people he is speaking to.
CrimzonSamurai
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The conference he's speaking for is a healthcare industry conference and he passed the most progressive healthcare legislation in American history. He's probably going to use the speech to help shore up support for the ACA among the donor class.
Like seriously, the guy works his ass off his entire life, becomes POTUS and suffers 8 years of largely racially based animus from mouth-breathing bumpkins and now suddenly he's an example of everything that's wrong with American politics?
Fuck off. Some of you guys are seriously out there.
Like seriously, the guy works his ass off his entire life, becomes POTUS and suffers 8 years of largely racially based animus from mouth-breathing bumpkins and now suddenly he's an example of everything that's wrong with American politics?
Fuck off. Some of you guys are seriously out there.
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Take with a huge grain of salt, BBC article is referencing a New York Post story.
And If true, who cares? He hired Tim Geithner and Larry summers straight off the bat. Obama was never an economist populist, he was a pragmatist.
And If true, who cares? He hired Tim Geithner and Larry summers straight off the bat. Obama was never an economist populist, he was a pragmatist.
I'm well aware. Obama made it seem like he was going to hang around and be a strong counterpoint to Trump, and work on some issues he cares about like gerrymandering. Taking money from Wall Street undercuts that.
Herr Schwarz
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Well Perez is an Obama guy right?
I don't think you know what "greed" means.
And Obama deserves a lot more than 400,000 for what he did for your ungrateful country.
Initially I didn't understand the backlash to this, but after reading some opinions I can understand why SOME people are a bit miffed.
Obama has always been a middle of the road, corporate dem. I think a lot of people are expecting him to be bernie levels of anti-capitalist which is foolish cause he never gave you reason to believe that would ever be the case.
I think Obama can do whatever the hell he wants, and I do not prescribe to the habit of checking for other people's pockets. However, I think given how he handled the bailout of wallstreet, him cozying up to them after his presidency has the optics of kickbacks and ROI.
To be honest, I wish we would just let Obama ride off into the sunset, and leave him alone.
Obama has always been a middle of the road, corporate dem. I think a lot of people are expecting him to be bernie levels of anti-capitalist which is foolish cause he never gave you reason to believe that would ever be the case.
I think Obama can do whatever the hell he wants, and I do not prescribe to the habit of checking for other people's pockets. However, I think given how he handled the bailout of wallstreet, him cozying up to them after his presidency has the optics of kickbacks and ROI.
To be honest, I wish we would just let Obama ride off into the sunset, and leave him alone.
Another real danger is that it gives Putin and Russia sympathizers more ammo. We know Putin pushes a hard "America is no better than us" angle.
This.
If he intends to be a major part of the party it's indefensible to do this after all the shit this kind of thing stirred up in 2016.
Why does this matter? You think him speaking is going to change nothing.. except take money out of the hands of Wall Street and into the hands of a charitable activist. Sounds terrible.
Garrett Hawke
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She needs to become Schrodinger's Clinton and simultaneously disappear from politics forever but also not abandon us or something.
You're not the only one. :lol
eh, Obama doesn't, and shouldn't, give a shit about what people think of him now.
He gave it his best and had a shit ton of people going up against him every step of the way. And the moment he was out, a lot of the things that he felt proud of were being stripped away by someone that thrives in being petty.
So, fuck 'em. Mr. Obama, you've earned it. Go make bank and take it easy. Fuck the haters.
He gave it his best and had a shit ton of people going up against him every step of the way. And the moment he was out, a lot of the things that he felt proud of were being stripped away by someone that thrives in being petty.
So, fuck 'em. Mr. Obama, you've earned it. Go make bank and take it easy. Fuck the haters.
What's indefensible is the person who used this line of attack in the first place.
AcademicSaucer
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paying back that bail out from 2008-9
This insistence that some people have that Obama is forever lashed to the wheel of doing nothing but advancing their own political agenda or he's garbage is predictable and boring. He did a lot and now he's done. He'll never sign a piece of legislation again. He's one of the most famous and respected people on earth, let him get paid.
Eh, I understand that position, but continuing to build connections he can fundraise off of is actually a reasonable tactic for fighting the current administration and working on his own pet projects.
jimmypython
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take money from wall street and fund whatever he wants to do. I see no problem.
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