Of course not. I saw a large dollar amount and wall Street and it made me have a sad.
in our own way, all Americans are having a sad right now
Of course not. I saw a large dollar amount and wall Street and it made me have a sad.
I don't begrudge Obama for making money, but I do wish he would do it more 'productively' and in a way that doesn't tarnish his reputation. He could easily sit on the boards of Apple, Google, Tesla, and other tech companies and make a fortune. Or go into venture capital just for green industries like Al Gore does.
Clinton stays away: Boo! Do something goddammit.
Clinton gets involved: Boo! You're what's wrong with the Democratic party! Go away!
Because Apple, Google and other tech companies, with their massive tax avoidance, exploitation of labor in 3rd world countries and general scumbaggery are so much better that evil Wall St.
I'm with you on this. Surely Obama has more money than he could ever possibly need right?
Just seems like pure greed, unless he's doing this to donate most of it to charity.
Just seems like pure greed
And one profiting from their business through the use of their office.
Ok it's not a donation. But call me paranoid I guess if an influential politician in our party gets handed giants sacks of money for speeches by financial corporations who regularly donate money to politicians and stack congress with lackies who have favorable positions towards their industryUnless they are literal clones in every possible way other than their stances on wall street this scenario doesn't work.
Also, what donation? He's providing them a service and getting paid, this is a one-off freelance gig.
It's actually really amazing how out of touch with reality people are for thinking this is somehow a betrayal of values or "disappointing"
"Oh sorry, I can't take this nearly half a million paycheck for talking to a bunch of people because making money is evil now, I'm sure my wife is going to totally understand"
I feel like I'm losing my mind reading this shit on a more frequent basis.
Fuck me, some of you guys will he great additions to the Ideological Purity Police in any future autocratic states.
Normally this kind of vitriol is only seen shared between Marxist/Leninists & Trots, I'd never expect to see it from milquetoast US liberals over something like a paid speaking thing.
Also despicable! Of course republican partisans will completely ignore that one because Hillary was in wall streets pocket.
I mean, this particular speech, who knows, but Obama will be putting a ton of money into many, many foundations and charities for the rest of his life.I don't know what's funnier, people surprised that he's doing this or people who expect him to donate it to charity or put it in his foundation LMAO.
Well I don't think anybody wanted her as a primary or GE candidate in the long run tbh. The question is then, why did the party support her for so long?
They make my phone and technology I use!!!
Like the man isn't allowed to have a job after being president.I don't know what's funnier, people surprised that he's doing this or people who expect him to donate it to charity or put it in his foundation LMAO.
Fuck me, some of you guys will he great additions to the Ideological Purity Police in any future autocratic states.
Normally this kind of vitriol is only seen shared between Marxist/Leninists & Trots, I'd never expect to see it from milquetoast US liberals over something like a paid speaking thing.
I am not surprised. He was a good president, but history will judge him badly regarding his relationship with plutocrats.
If only people got this upset at the prospect of Trump winning the election.
I'm with you on this. Surely Obama has more money than he could ever possibly need right?
Just seems like pure greed, unless he's doing this to donate most of it to charity.
Fuck me, some of you guys will he great additions to the Ideological Purity Police in any future autocratic states.
Normally this kind of vitriol is only seen shared between Marxist/Leninists & Trots, I'd never expect to see it from milquetoast US liberals over something like a paid speaking thing.
He's out of office and will be forever out of office. Go nuts bud, get your kids set up.
The capacity of US liberals to trip over their collective dicks is unrivaled.If only people got this upset at the prospect of Trump winning the election.
Ok it's not a donation. But call me paranoid I guess if an influential politician in our party gets handed giants sacks of money for speeches by financial corporations who regularly donate money to politicians and stack congress with lackies who have favorable positions towards their industry
I just believe it's wrong for someone involved heavily in politics to be doing this sort of thing, because It can and does influence people and regular voters can't compete with financial industries or corporations that have enough cash to deal out large speaking fees. Ifhe's sort of walking away from it I don't care.
But if he's really looking to find the "next generation of leadership" I guess I don't want to be asking the question, should this become a regular thing, were the type of leaders he sought out or help try and elect really the best posible candidates they could be or was his judgement in anyway compromised.
yupI'm not a disaffected sixteen year old who views the world in black and white and has no grasp of even the most basic economic theories as I impotently rage against the machine and therefore do not think Wall Street = evil, and so see no problem giving speeches for cash for some in this world.
Good for Obama.
History will probably judge his foreign policy the harshest tbh.No it won't.
This may very well damage Mr. Obama's chance at becoming the Democratic Party's Presidential Candidate in 2020. Very interesting.
Lord help is in 2018.The capacity of US liberals to trip over their collective dicks is unrivaled.
I'm failing to see the outrage, some people here acting like he's speaking for Briebart or something.
Well I don't think anybody wanted her as a primary or GE candidate in the long run tbh. The question is then, why did the party support her for so long?
There's a massive distinction between someone who will never hold office again profiting off of businesses and someone who is running for the highest office profiting off of businesses. One of them could be responsible for policy decisions that effect the people that have been paying them, and one of them won't be making policy decisions.
If you can't see that distinction you have to be pretty blind.
populist saviors feeding political neophytes bullshit and simplistic solutions to complicated problems resonated with many for which the world is a scary and mean plzce
What there to be critical of him about? He's no longer making policy, his money is now, gasp, a special interest himself.The people equating criticism to "he's just making money" are more embarassing than anything else that's been said in this thread.
What I'm learning recently:
Purity tests over social issues like abortion: Very bad and we need to reconsider hardline stances on issues like these if Democrats want to have a chance of winning by employing a 50 state strategy
Purity tests over issues like paid speeches: Very good, and fuck it if it ends up costing us elections or whatever because ethics and doing what's right matters more, and fuck any kind of neoliberal establishment Wall Street shill that's down for this type of thing.
Good to have confirmation though that all that "lol purity tests" stuff only extends to social issues and so-called identify politics after all, and as soon as we venture outside of them, they're right back in season. Good to know, especially that these purity tests are the ones that are so important and vital that they, unlike a candidate's stance in abortion, apply when someone isn't even running for office in the first place. Glad we've got that covered.
My hate for liberals is rising every fucking day that goes by.
Fuck me, some of you guys will he great additions to the Ideological Purity Police in any future autocratic states.
Normally this kind of vitriol is only seen shared between Marxist/Leninists & Trots, I'd never expect to see it from milquetoast US liberals over something like a paid speaking thing.