CliqWriter
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I don't think I would be able to handle the simple
pressures of the relationship, so no. But if I loved them, I would.
pressures of the relationship, so no. But if I loved them, I would.
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Would You Date Someone Who Is HIV Positive?
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You expect HIV+ people to tell someone right away that they have HIV so that the person can then make a choice whether of not to take on the "burden?"
So should HIV+ people just wear pieces of flair o that we can just see them from a distance and not get to know thm at all?
I know, a part of me is like run away!but then I think about how, condoms are very effective, it's harder for a man to get it, I'm circumcised etc etc. Explains why a girl as cute as her is single.
That's extreme so of course not. If there's a likelihood that a relationship could result, like say you're going out on a date with them, I don't think it's at all unreasonable to expect someone to be completely upfront about it. It's not easy but it's also not anyone else's problem but your own. Of course they're will be people who choose to accept it but it's your responsibility to give them the information necessary to make that decision before they're planning out their perfect future with you.
Yeaah, so sorry to necro bump this topic, but I've recently reading up on mixed status couples and the things they have to deal with, I admit that I didn't know a lot about HIV and how it works before, but heres some things that I learned:
1. People on ART ( anti retro viral) drugs, and have achieved undetectable status are extremely unlikely to give away the virus, in fact there are 2 studies called the Swiss Statement and the PARTNER Study that suggest that it's impossible for an undetectable person to give it away.
2. HIV, while a serious virus, is pretty easy to avoid.
3. HIV positive people can go on the have children without fear of passing it on due to advancements in medicine.
4. There are drugs call Prep( pre exposure) and PeP ( post exposure) that negative people can take to reduce that chances of getting it.
So knowing all of this, I would say yeah I would. HIV is a shitty, yet manageable virus that some people have to deal with, just like any other disease. If I liked that person, and she or he was staying healthy, then that wouldn't scare me away.
1. People on ART ( anti retro viral) drugs, and have achieved undetectable status are extremely unlikely to give away the virus, in fact there are 2 studies called the Swiss Statement and the PARTNER Study that suggest that it's impossible for an undetectable person to give it away.
2. HIV, while a serious virus, is pretty easy to avoid.
3. HIV positive people can go on the have children without fear of passing it on due to advancements in medicine.
4. There are drugs call Prep( pre exposure) and PeP ( post exposure) that negative people can take to reduce that chances of getting it.
So knowing all of this, I would say yeah I would. HIV is a shitty, yet manageable virus that some people have to deal with, just like any other disease. If I liked that person, and she or he was staying healthy, then that wouldn't scare me away.
Maintenance
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That's a massive necrobump.
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Deleted member 1235
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fuck no. i did not have to even think about it. no way in hell. that shit terrifies me
edit: holy crap at the bump.
edit: holy crap at the bump.
Skellig Gra
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Would you date someone who necrobumped a 9 year old thread?
Messofanego
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I didn't know about this, thanks. If all of that is as effective as you argue, that would at least put some people dealing with this at some peace.
Deal breaker.
Greatest Ever
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Damn, they actually told you that?I wanted to start a thread, but I'm perma juinored
There really have been some amazing, perhaps even unthinkable for 2008, medical advances in almost a decade when it comes to controlling and preventing HIV.
From Whitman-Walker, the clinic which was instrumental in getting PreP to the public:
Only if they are a Junior Member making a terrible comeback at someone who's been permabanned 5 years ago.
On topic, even with medical advances I couldn't do it. Society just made me internalize my fear of the disease and I could never feel comfortable being with someone who has it. Feels bad to say.
Dr. Black Jack
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No.
I was just thinking about the amount of bullshit people with HIV/AIDS have to go through day to day when it comes to dating, and the fact that they're still wiping themselves off and getting back out the after being rejected. Those are strong and healthy people. Fuck yeah I would date someone like that.
dave is ok
aztek is ok
HIV isn't the scary monster it once was. I'd be more likely to date someone with HIV than Hep C, to be honest
Count Dookkake
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With this stuff maybe, but she'd have to be pretty much a living Real Doll.
Totally compliant with blumpkins everyday if needed.
afternoon delight
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I've spent my entire life trying to avoid even mild sexually transmitted diseases so no. Not even once.
That's a bold statement but you do you. I don't think the two are quite comparable, but I'm no doctor.
always crazy bacon
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She's get a hard pass from me. There are plenty of other women that are free from infection.
Isn't Hep C curable though?
FIREKNIGHT2029
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Nah, I don't think I could do it personally.
Dude I got some bad news, you probably have an STD (herpes) and you don't know about it yet.
afternoon delight
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Herp, the HIV, all the same right?
pigeon interrupted
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I would definitely consider it. I've had friends with hiv, and friends whose parent/s have hiv. I was very naive about the virus/disease at the time and ashamed to say a little paranoid around them at first. But it broke my heart to see family and friends desert them over it. Even over having a hiv parent. Made me readjust my thinking, and with the modern advances in medicine I would date somebody with hiv. Ostracism over an infection/disease is pretty awful to see/experience.
It's interesting how perspective on this issue differs on sexual orientation, race, and cultural differences. The black gay community and other communities of color in the US is challenged by high rates of HIV infection, and has been for decades. Because of this, many are more understanding and compassionate about what being positive means.
As a black gay male, I can say that while some gay people are ignorant of what it means to be and date someone who is HIV positive, most of the community know someone who is positive, has dated or is in a serodiscordant relationship. Also, because of the high rate of infection, many are on PrEp. Positive people on meds really don't have complications these days. It's rare to have complications if treated and labs are stable. Therefore, unless you aren't on HAART, PrEp, or not having protected sex, you aren't contracting or transmitting the virus and don't have anything to really worry about.
This is backed up by years of research and trails. If transmission is the reason you won't date someone who is HIV positive, you're being irrational.
As a black gay male, I can say that while some gay people are ignorant of what it means to be and date someone who is HIV positive, most of the community know someone who is positive, has dated or is in a serodiscordant relationship. Also, because of the high rate of infection, many are on PrEp. Positive people on meds really don't have complications these days. It's rare to have complications if treated and labs are stable. Therefore, unless you aren't on HAART, PrEp, or not having protected sex, you aren't contracting or transmitting the virus and don't have anything to really worry about.
This is backed up by years of research and trails. If transmission is the reason you won't date someone who is HIV positive, you're being irrational.
Northernlights
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I couldnt do it. I have no problem with people that could though.
Nope not the same at all. You can actually avoid getting HIV via TasP ( treament as prevention)
dave is ok
aztek is ok
It is, for like $80,000.
Why would anyone be in a relationship with you if all you care about is yourself?
Your Entertainer
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The effective transmission rate is very low these days.
Even then, no way.
Even then, no way.
El_Presidente
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Really glad this was necro bumped. I still have all these completely false ideas about HIV from what we were taught in public schools here in the US. I thought it was still a death sentence and was highly contagious. Really cool how much it has all advanced and is very much manageable now.
Mercury Fred
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lol at this Necro bump.
Happily in a relationship with someone else now but my perspective on this question would be way different today now that PreP is a thing.
Happily in a relationship with someone else now but my perspective on this question would be way different today now that PreP is a thing.
yanipheonu
Member
Yes, but obviously that's some huge baggage you have to be down for. It'd highly depend on the situation.
A "hard pass", fucking hell. That's a human being you're talking about.
youngplaya21
Member
If I see it going long distance, I wouldn't mind. With the crazy advances in medicine for HIV these days, I believe the chances of getting it in a heterosexual relationship is less than one percent. It'll be a nuisance taking Prep, and I likely won't be rushing into bed with them on the first few dates, but I'm not gonna walk away because of that
Dating them? Sure. But don't think I would be able to willingly expose myself to the risk by having intercourse, no matter how negligible the transmission rate.
But then again, I don't think sex is the biggest deal in the world so whatever.
In any way, I would have zero issues being close friends with people who are HIV-positive.
As evidenced by this thread, a lot of people still seem to treat them like they have ebola or something. Sad to see. They are just people like you and me.
But then again, I don't think sex is the biggest deal in the world so whatever.
In any way, I would have zero issues being close friends with people who are HIV-positive.
As evidenced by this thread, a lot of people still seem to treat them like they have ebola or something. Sad to see. They are just people like you and me.
Transmission via UNPROTECTED heterosexual sex has always been quite low (<1%). Proper condom use and other measures have all but eliminated transmission.
As of today the prognosis for HIV, even if it has progressed to AIDS, if caught early is approaching that of the general population, upwards of 40 years[1]. Rather than having been reduced from a death sentence, HIV/AIDS in the developed world is now a minor, albiet sometimes expensive, inconvenience.
As of today the prognosis for HIV, even if it has progressed to AIDS, if caught early is approaching that of the general population, upwards of 40 years[1]. Rather than having been reduced from a death sentence, HIV/AIDS in the developed world is now a minor, albiet sometimes expensive, inconvenience.
LookAtMeGo
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Depends on the person I guess.
CrimsonSquall
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If the person was a 9 or 10 (imo) then I'm still in like flynn tbh. Anything less than naaaahhhh I'm gucci
Lights and Waves
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Can you imagine being an HIV+ GAF member, opening this thread up and feeling your stomach sink as you read through all these ignorant comments?
CrimsonSquall
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Look in the mirror if you're surprised
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