Shipments are going to Australia ,you can easily find one here lol
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Switch sales top 280,000 in the U.S. in April, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe tops 550,000 (US)
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Shipments are going to Australia ,you can easily find one here lol
ninjablade
Banned
ummm, look at wiiu first 2 months, they didn't look that bad, even compared to consoles that sold 10x more ltd, how can you not say they fell off a cliff after launch.
Switch First Two Months: 1186K
March: 906K
April: 280K
3DS First Two months: 592K
March: 398K
April: 194K
3DS First 6 months: 1175K
Wii U First 2 Months: 885K
Wii U First 6 Months: 1187K
Wii First 2 Months: 1080K
DS First 2 Months: 1225K
Skittzo0413
Member
Those are all units shipped, not units sold. The 3DS and Wii U were never really sold out in US while the Switch and Wii were/are sold out basically worldwide. Except Australia and Italy.
phant0m
Member
May will be the true indicator. Seems like they're more widely available now. They gotta get more games to play on it too. If you're not interested in Zelda or buying MK8 again, the pickings are...slim. Needs more jrpg.
Seems like Dev support was low on launch, but is kicking into high gear now that they've realized "oh shit, people actually like this thing! Can we sell Persona 4 a 3rd time?"
Seems like Dev support was low on launch, but is kicking into high gear now that they've realized "oh shit, people actually like this thing! Can we sell Persona 4 a 3rd time?"
WhatWeLeftBehind
Member
Yes indeed, it was Nintendo next handheld and console launching with Zelda. So in other words: the successor to two previous platforms one which bombed and is one of the worst selling consoles in the history of the medium, the other one will wind up being Nintendo's worst selling handheld by a fair margin(not counting Virtual Boy).
To top it off, it was launching with the newest entry of a series that had one of its WORST SELLING entries on the company's BEST SELLING platform. A series which has been in sales decline since 2006/2007.
So tell me again, where was Nintendo going to get justification for a bigger shipment again?
Also, it's their.
ninjablade
Banned
pretty sure that's sold through numbers, it didn't sell out, but that's not telling us much, of course switch will do better then wiiu being that it's nintendo next handheld and console.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/01/11/how-successful-was-the-wii-u-launch
people were pretty positive about wiiu after launch.
what's there to lose with a bigger shipment?
Chill Penguin
Member
It's outpacing the Wii so far, not sure what the issue is. No one can or should predict a runaway success,as you just end up with unsold stock if it isn't. As Nintendo noticed the huge demand, they recalculated their shipping estimates, essentially doubling them. They're playing it perfectly so far.
WhatWeLeftBehind
Member
Money
Dr. Zoidberg
Member
People keep saying this but that's not my recollection at all. At least not here or in my RL. The Wii U launch was a bit of a dud. The numbers may not be that much lower than Switch but the general vibe and interest was much lower. Launch units just sat on shelves unsold for days. Only die-hard Nintendo fans like myself seemed to care. The name, gimmick, etc. was a complete failure. Anecdotal, sure, but at least around here Switch has generated more interest among the "casuals". Maybe Wii U was exciting in some places, and maybe Switch will crater in the months ahead. I certainly don't know.
Welfare
Member
Could have quoted me.
Sigh. I said it should be smashing the 3DS. As in it's not a surprise its doing better than the poor launch of the 3DS.
AdventureRacing
Member
The sales aren't awful but they are a missed opportunity. I guess it's risky to massively up supply so early in the game though. With the slow months coming now it's risky to start shopping a huge amount. If they can keep shipping 750K-1million a month that's OK. They'll definitely need a shitload more for the holidays and Japan post splatoon though.
Phatosaurus
Member
Yeah, dozens of people were, DOZENS!
Genuinely, there was very little positivity about the WiiU. It went off like a wet fart, especially when the performance comparison videos of 360/PS3 ports went up and the WiiU consistently had the worst performance of the 3 systems.
To top it off, it launched without a "must have game", Nintendoland and SMBU just didn't cut it, ZombiU got critically panned to top it off.
It was a bad, bruh.
Fucking lol
ethomaz
Banned
I believe this supply is part of 10m plan.
ninjablade
Banned
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/01/11/how-successful-was-the-wii-u-launch read the article this was the general vibe the first 2 months from nintendo fans.
i'm talking about sales, nobody expected it to bomb after the first 2 months. if you read the article from ign, you would see how most nintendo fans felt, it was doing good and had much better launch then 360/ps3.
not saying it will fail, i expect 35-40 million, but people calling it the next wii or home run , there is no proof of that yet.
They got a lot of defects to fix then if thats the case.
I havent personally had wifi problems yet but my friends have for example.
AdventureRacing
Member
Let's not forget pre launch expectations. Many on GAF were predicting sub wii U level sales and most seemed to think 3DS level sales were a pipe dream. If prior to launch we had been told the switch would sell around 13 million at the end of its first full year that would have been considered a good thing.
Whilst it's easy to get caught up intense hype and want constant massive numbers that's not necessarily realistic. Nintendos original goal of 10 million shipped this fiscal year was pretty reasonable and it takes time to increase that. They also don't want to see another wii U situation and massively overproduce consoles.
I'm not sure what these numbers are supposed to imply. The wiiU sold well for the first 2 months as they were November and December (even then it wasn't sold out). As soon as it entered non holiday months it totally tanked selling around 60K.
The switch has already sold as much as the wii U sold in 6 months in just 2 months. Despite that it's still selling out and that's without holiday sales. There is nothing to indicate a similar situation happening to the switch.
Whilst it's easy to get caught up intense hype and want constant massive numbers that's not necessarily realistic. Nintendos original goal of 10 million shipped this fiscal year was pretty reasonable and it takes time to increase that. They also don't want to see another wii U situation and massively overproduce consoles.
I'm not sure what these numbers are supposed to imply. The wiiU sold well for the first 2 months as they were November and December (even then it wasn't sold out). As soon as it entered non holiday months it totally tanked selling around 60K.
The switch has already sold as much as the wii U sold in 6 months in just 2 months. Despite that it's still selling out and that's without holiday sales. There is nothing to indicate a similar situation happening to the switch.
Nintendo's original production number for FY 17 was 8m units, yes?
And IIRC the foxconn leak said they were producing 20k a day, so ~600k a month, and 7.3m a year.
That seems in line with these sales, and with the weekly Japanese numbers.
The WSJ reported in early March that Nintendo was doubling production, but obviously those extra units haven't made their way to retailers yet. I'd guess it'll happen somewhere between June and August? Considering that it generally takes a while to double production.
And IIRC the foxconn leak said they were producing 20k a day, so ~600k a month, and 7.3m a year.
That seems in line with these sales, and with the weekly Japanese numbers.
The WSJ reported in early March that Nintendo was doubling production, but obviously those extra units haven't made their way to retailers yet. I'd guess it'll happen somewhere between June and August? Considering that it generally takes a while to double production.
Dr. Zoidberg
Member
Yeah, I just read it. It's tepid and not particularly positive. They're basically saying it did "OK" numbers when compared to other systems. Not that it was a huge success or a good launch. "Not at all bad" is faint praise. The writer is clearly being very reserved about it's chances, not ruling out the possibility for a rapid price drop.
Let me point out the flaw in your logic.
You said sales will fall off a cliff in a few months once demand is met.
That's not how it works.
Once demand is met, it will keep selling because it is a new product in the growth phase. It will even sell more in the next financial year compared to the current one because of being in growth because that's how a product life cycle works.
We are past the launch period and demand hasn't been met and it is April, not December. That shows that demand for this product will stay high because that is how much it is selling and Nintendo has to catch up with its supply to fulfill demand. Once it is caught up though, demand is not going to suddenly fall off a cliff.
AdventureRacing
Member
There is no proof of anything yet, we're all extrapolating based on 2 months of sales. My opinion is that so far there is every indication that the switch can perform on par with or better than the 3DS. Wii style sales will never be repeated by any console but life time sales aren't exactly crazy for the wii.
At what point do you think these wii U comparisons stop making sense? As I said above the switch has already passed the first 6 months of wii U sales without the benefit of a holiday and it continues to sell out regularly.
It also looks set to blow the wii U out of the water in Japan and some EU countries.
IMO 35-40 million is absolutely the low end of sales and I can't see that happening. Personally I think 20+ million is likely in Japan alone so unless the switch suddenly ranks wii U style in the west I can't see it selling that little.
ArkhamFantasy
Member
They really need extra units ready for Splatoon 2 though, that game is going to be huge.
ethomaz
Banned
Nintendo own numbers are 10m for FY2017... these 8m, 16m, double production are only rumors.
You should know that the reporter that reported this has very solid sources. He's the one that got info about the NX Dev kits in the first place, and reported about the PS4 Slim before it got announced.
ethomaz
Banned
That continue being rumor that doesn't fit with official forecast.
You're confusing forecast with production.
Forecast is how many Switch units they expect to ship to retailers.
The 16M rumour is how much they plan to produce for the FY.
I can already point out where you have gotten this wrong.
Nintendo had forecasted 2 million Switch units for March in the last fiscal year, they ended up shipping 2.72 million units.
This is because their production numbers aren't the same as their forecast which is to do with Hardware shipped.
ninjablade
Banned
i said it's possible, that sales will fall off a cliff.
i don't think holidays make a difference, in any console that has the slightest bit of demand will always sell out at launch, regardless. as for being past launch period, come now, 1.2 million is not enough for launch period demand in 2 months, there are way more nintedo fans then that, if a 500$ xbone was able to sell almost 2 million in 2 months, then sales crashed and they had to drop the price, and remove kenect.
1) Just because you said it's possible doesn't make your argument sound much better if you have nothing else to back it up.
2) You really don't understand what seasonal cycles are and how they affect retailers. There's​ a reason sales increase dramatically in the holidays and doesn't stay constantly for the next year.
3) You can't prove that only "Nintendo fans" are buying this console.
ethomaz
Banned
They plan to produce and ship 10 million units in FY2017 and any change in the plan will be updated in the quarter results.
16m is just plain made up number... sorry.
Only these that believe in the rumors thought these 280k for US are low because anybody that estimated sales based in the 10m forecast found out the 280k expected and easy predicable.
Wow, at least admit that you're wrong and learn something.
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2017/170502e.pdf
ethomaz
Banned
Yeap I'm wrong like there are 6 million units in warehouses lol
What he said is exactly what I'm saying... the plan to ship and produce 10 million units thought the year and not all at once.
No. I'm just fine to be right about that.
I'm glad to know that you're​ either too stubborn or have very poor reading comprehension.
ninjablade
Banned
my main argument is it's too early too know how successful the switch, and yes sales could fall of a cliff.
Yes i understand sales go up in the holidays, way up, but holiday, or not, consoles are gonna sell out most of the time cause of the pent up demand for the new product, pretty sure xbox1 and ps4 would have sold the same amount even if it wasn't for the holidays
of course not only nintedno fans are buying switch, but imo the majority are. all this won't be clear till the holidays, i wanna see the switch fares.
Think about this, you are the one who brought that up. But your argument is weak because you don't have any solid points to back it up.
Etrian Oddity
Member
They need to announce muthafuckin' Animal Crossing at E3.
D.Lo
Member
Without fail if I look at the post history of someone saying 'Switch will still fail it could all fall apart', it will be posts in several other Switch threads also saying it will fail, posts in Switch game threads saying the games look crap, and positive posts in PS4Bone game threads. The agendas are laid bare, why get into so many threads about something you hate so much?
Quoting the wrong person? lol
Skittzo0413
Member
Somehow I missed this quote previously, that adds some serious weight to the WSJ report back in March. So if 16m produced is true, I certainly expect they will ship more than the 10m forecast if there are no unforeseen problems in production (like Japan Display floundering).
We clearly haven't seen the result of any ramped up production yet, hopefully it'll be ready by July at the latest.
coughlanio
Member
It is way to early to deem Switch a success. A lot of public perception is riding on E3, and if Nintendo don't deliver, then it might make the system seem a lot less exciting to potential owners. Yeah, Mario is coming during the holidays and both Splatoon and Arms are sprinkled in there, but there's definitely room for a steep drop in sales between E3 and then if Nintendo don't bring their best in June.
Hold the phone.
Are you saying the mainstream know and actively watch E3 and are basing their buying decisions on the outcome of the presentation as opposed to the advertising since last year that sold them on the console?
D.Lo
Member
No lol, I was sort of making a side point saying 'check who you're arguing with', not implying you were saying that yourself
ninjablade
Banned
i gave good points to back my argument, you think it's weak thats your opinion and not fact. you think switch will sell over 80 million based on a good launch, and selling out with a really small shipments,that's fine i'm still not convinced till i see how it does during the holidays, i don't think it can keep selling at 300$.
No lol, I was sort of making a side point saying 'check who you're arguing with', not implying you were saying that yourself
except i never said switch would fail, my predictions is 35-40 million, stop making false accusations. i said the wiiu would fail and predicted 13-14 million after launch, i was also right about the specs, maybe that bother's you?
I never said that, I am pointing out how your argument is weak that no one can take it seriously.
I suspect Nintendo is playing the production lines very safe and I do not blame them. I imagine they will gradually keep raising production as long as they do not see a drop off develop. They are just not going to commit to a large production increase and then see it backfire.
It just has the effect of keeping things in an awkward state