CornBurrito
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JFC this personality is too much.
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OECD Obesity Update: Almost 39% of American Adults over age 15 now classified obese
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JFC this personality is too much.
GalacticToast
Member
Oh definitely. Most people are lazy. No one wants to be fat. It's just that it's easy. If you could push a button and be in amazing shape (or at least not fat) everyokne would do it in a heartbeat.
I was mainly saying that fat shaming can work in certain circumstances.
I love watching folks be tough on GAF
I havent had fast food or soft drinks since prior to Christmas and have lost 30 pounds with really light exercise. We really try to watch the sugar and salt contents of everyday foods. Sugar is in everything now to ridiculous amounts. Im pretty sure it has a lot to do with the obesity rate in this country.
You're right. I didn't mean to say that adults don't need help. They do. I honestly think this is something that needs to be looked at sort of like a national emergency. This is a disaster waiting to happen because like you said, these are obese adults who will likely be obese seniors putting strains on already overburdened health services. I think the NHS in the UK which is already badly funded, is now denying obese patients surgery in a bid to save costs. But if over 30% of the UK is or is going to obese, that is tens of millions of people who will struggle. Are you able to find out exactly why you cannot lose the weight? For me it was that I consumed unhealthy amounts of pop/cola. To the point where I didn't overeat but liquid calories and sugaes had me over 1000 calories more per day.
I truly wonder how this can be fixed in a highly partisan US. One where powerful food lobbies have senators and politicians in their pockets. Ideally, you would want to see things like gym memberships or team sports be tax neutral or offset with tax credits. So that if you put your son in a sports league you get that money back on your taxes, add taxes or levies to junk food or sodas, use that to fund parks and recreational area development or burdened health services, have another Michelle Obama style national mandate for school lunches to be healthier.
This infographic by the Washington Post is very good on the sheer issues obesity at a younge age causes.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sLaXvE1aBmY
I have always liked this as because it visualizes decades of bad habits that we just never see.
RenegadeXV8
Banned
Yeah, Whole Foods is the only place in America where you can purchase rice, beans, fruits, vegetables and lean meats.
I say if people wanna get fat, let them get fat. No sweat off my back.
sounds like a whole lot of excuse.
You're right. I didn't mean to say that adults don't need help. They do. I honestly think this is something that needs to be looked at sort of like a national emergency. This is a disaster waiting to happen because like you said, these are obese adults who will likely be obese seniors putting strains on already overburdened health services. I think the NHS in the UK which is already badly funded, is now denying obese patients surgery in a bid to save costs. But if over 30% of the UK is or is going to obese, that is tens of millions of people who will struggle. Are you able to find out exactly why you cannot lose the weight? For me it was that I consumed unhealthy amounts of pop/cola. To the point where I didn't overeat but liquid calories and sugaes had me over 1000 calories more per day.
I truly wonder how this can be fixed in a highly partisan US. One where powerful food lobbies have senators and politicians in their pockets. Ideally, you would want to see things like gym memberships or team sports be tax neutral or offset with tax credits. So that if you put your son in a sports league you get that money back on your taxes, add taxes or levies to junk food or sodas, use that to fund parks and recreational area development or burdened health services, have another Michelle Obama style national mandate for school lunches to be healthier.
This infographic by the Washington Post is very good on the sheer issues obesity at a younge age causes.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sLaXvE1aBmY
I have always liked this as because it visualizes decades of bad habits that we just never see.
I remember that one, it's a good article. We will only begin to see the effects of childhood obesity through a lifetime with our population. For almost all of the top obese countries, I don't see any changes without major legislation overhauls targeting the risky foods (like the soda tax).
Almost every drink that isn't water in the US is packed full of sugar, as much as eating a damn candy bar. I have to avoid pretty much all of them (even the 'healthy' drinks) because of how much of it or corn syrup is in there.
Subpar Spatula
Banned
i was deadass poor growing up, so......
Subpar Spatula
Banned
RenegadeXV8
Banned
It's an excuse because people that perpetuate that myth don't actually know what healthy food even is or costs.
what?
Subpar Spatula
Banned
It's cheaper to buy instant noodles than vegetables. They even last longer. If you're trying to stretch the dollar then you're not going to afford to eat a well-rounded meal each time.
You were about to detail what your meals were growing up so we can see how you did it. You said "deadass poor" so you must have some great tips on how to access health alternatives for deadass cheap.
constantstatic
Member
I'm too much but it's ok for that dude to tell people he thinks are fat that they are ugly ? I'd like to see how that works out for him in the real world.
I drink water and coffee and pretty much it. My wife and I have found some healthy alternatives to the stuff we used to eat all the time and we have really tried to limit eating out, not just fast food. Not only is it expensive, but its just a ton of calories overall. Its crazy how one meal at a restaurant is like 1200-1500 calories. If thats all you are going to eat that day, you are still pushing your luck.
Added this to OP only because it visualizes the projected increases as a rate of population as well. It is a shame how much Canada and Mexico will be obese with the US ny around 2030. All of North America will be exclusively the fattest countries in the world in another decade. I wonder why Korea is also seeing a rising rate in terms of percentage growth? Any Korea bros chime in?
Nope, no big tips. I was a kid, i didn't choose what i ate. I know i wasnt eating fast food though, too rich for me. Too poor for sweets, too poor for snacks, even cup noodles. Why drink soda when water is there?
I ate school breakfast, and i ate school lunches. Only thing home needed to provide was dinner.
If anything i might've been malnourished.
CornBurrito
Member
Wew lad, those are some magical eyes you got there seeing shit I didn't even say.
Most people don't know what "healthy" food even is and that's because education surrounding nutrition has failed.
Subpar Spatula
Banned
So you don't have any insight? You just want to say "stupid poor people and their excuses" while saying you might have been malnourished as a child due to poor choices by your parents?
Like, what are you trying to contribute here? If it's that there's healthy alternatives then I'm sure people would be more than happy to hear them.
that being poor doesnt mean you need to be fat.
Morrigan Stark
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Uh.... if your father eats a Big Mac Jr (isn't that McDonalds, not Burger King? anyway) and onion rings every day, even if it's a "small portion", it's not remotely healthy.
Low-calorie meals can be extremely unhealthy, and high calorie meals can be very healthy. They are two distinct things.
Maybe, but uh, not only it's not any kind of productive statement, you actually admit that you were probably malnourished as a "deadass poor" kid, how is being malnourished any better than being fat? Jesus...
CornBurrito
Member
Frozen veggies are pretty (very) cheap.
Subpar Spatula
Banned
OK.
So how?
Like, you do understand you only came here to say "being poor doesn't matter because I was poor and I didn't get fat". You've added zero value.
Which is why their purchased a lot. You still have snacks, other meals, breakfast (which is usually cereal), etc which still bring that down. Eating well most of the time is expensive so folks choose between buying a tub of spaghetti sauce or paying way more to make it for 1 meal.
did i say that?
Goldenroad
Member
Stupid sexy Italians. How can they eat all that good stuff and not get fat?
so how what? I said being poor doesnt mean you have to eat bad. You dont have to snack, you dont have to eat fast food, you dont have to eat sweets.
Done with you.
CornBurrito
Member
A bag of frozen veggies doesn't have enough calories.
Most poor families aren't cooking family dinners. Or if they are, their problems wont be fixed by tossing in a packet of frozen veggies. Someone who is poor may be eating a single packet of ramen for their dinner.
Obesity must somehow be linked to weapons.
This. The OECD found that less educated adults were FAR more likely to be obese. Now couple that with the fact that less educated adults also likely to have lower paying jobs, and closer to poverty levels and you start to see data become clearer. Notice how in the CDC gif, the heaviest states are actually more rural, less educated, lower incomes.
Lack of proper education around cooking, food, meal preparation, what is actually healthy is also a major contributor.
There was a commercial that used to run in Canada, where people fed conflicting information daily. Ice hockey coach telling players to carb it up, while a fitness trainer saying go low carb.
Master Of Illusion
Member
Not Korean myself, but when one is stocking up on Twinkies for the impending nuclear apocalypse, some of it's bound to get shoved down their throats.
RenegadeXV8
Banned
A 5lb bag of rice is far cheaper than the equivalent in ramen.
entremet
Member
No, you don't have to worry about fruit at all. Please provide studies that suggest otherwise. If you add fruit to a diet you will most likely eat less calories in total.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19413705
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26115001
Observe that the two links are epidemiology studies so cause and effect is always an concern, but intervention studies suggest the same pattern: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18439712
http://forskningsdatabasen.dk/catalog/2185776889
More studies examining the effects of fruit during weight loss:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21621801
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16395633
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23497350
Conclusion: Eat fruit for Gods sake
I'm talkin about your first statement regarding being obese and have 15% bodyfat. You're obviously not obese then.
When you don't know anything about nutrition science don't try to act like you know anything about nutrition science, please.
Subpar Spatula
Banned
It's incredibly hard to eat well while being poor. You don't understand that. It's not like people can go to the dollar store and get fresh veggies or buy a big bag of apples for $2. Bananas are about $2 and there's probably 6. Even then it's not enough to sustain 4 people for a while so bulk is the preferred method. I don't believe you understand how this all works and just want to say poor people should stop making bad decisions because it's super easy to eat well.
pretty done
Member
lol I'm not sure you can read. Where did I blame metabolism for anything? I'm not fat and I don't order McDs fries. 6 piece nuggets + mcdouble for 3 bucks is my go-to on weekdays.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Um. You are actually arguing that eating onion rings every day is healthy?
entremet
Member
Beans, rice, potatoes, corn. All rather cheap and filling and very hard to get fat on if not cooked in gobs of fat.
Poverty and obesity are complex. There is a correlation.
like the middle class telling poor people what they should do.
I can't speak for USA, but Finland at least uses a blend of both (they get mixed during processing), since the dairy cow breeds produce both, and the most prominent ones - Ayrshire and Holstein Friesian - have a pretty much 50%/50% split.
Finnish milk consumption may be a factor among others, but I'd say the difference between other nordics and us is a sum of small/negligible things that alone don't amount to much, both dietary and lifestyle.
And beans, rice and potatoes take far longer to cook than hot pockets or instant noodles.
I've been in that situation before, I used to work 12 hour shifts...with no time at all to boil beans or rice...I'd rather sitck two hot pockets in the microwave for 2 mins or stop by McDonald's and grab a burger for 2 dollars
a single burger for 2 dollars? as 1 meal? i would starve and be eating poorly.
You Are Viewtiful
Member
This. I was at a hotel with free breakfast, I got 4 slices of French toast, two sausages, and a small pancake with maple syrup. To me this was the holy mecca of breakfasts, I've only ever eaten a breakfast that maybe only 2 or 3 times in my life. The cafeteria lady said "That's it? Are you sure? There's more if you want." I don't even think if I finished it and the lady was asking if I wanted more LOL.
I'm happy with my strugglewich and a warm cup of tea. I'm very productive in the morning.
For some people living in what we call a food desert those may not even be options. And once again when do we start to educate people en masse about these healthy cheaper foods? When do we grant the chance to actually prep them on a daily basis? When do we think about addressing this issue systematically instead of going "stupid poors, eat rice"
(I know this isn't your argument just using your post as a springboard for my own)
Never did. Onion rings are laden with sugar and fried oils. But you certainly cannot judge someone's entire nutritional profile on a few ounces of fried onion.
Just as one cannot judge someone's metabolism or health based on 5 chicken nuggets and a hamburger, as I was responding to originally.
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