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Shoot the Core! - Gaf Shoot em Up (aka Shooter/SHMUP) Reference Thread
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tomwhite2004
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these three are the ones that i most want to get decent pc ports, hate to think of them being lost on the 360 as hardware failures increase over the years or xbox live shuts down.
Gnomepowered
Neo Member
I know, right? But which places would you suggest? There are so many....
In all seriousness, this is the last region free 360 shmup I am looking for. I have a CRT TV in my office I only use for 360 shmupping (and occasional PS2 use) and an arcade stick I modded with a Seimitsu lever.... I love my 360 for this reason alone, but still no MMP/Pink Sweets. I have been keeping my eye out for Muchi Muchi Pork -90$ would be a lot easier to rationalize than the 150$ish on eBay.
I know it's sort of a barebones port but the emulation isn't great in MAME (in my experience) and I am just weirdly interested in the game. Chubby monster girl shmup seems like it's designed for such a specific niche, I want to find out if I may be in it. How would I ever know otherwise?
Also for what it's worth, I like Guwange a lot, definitely worth it for the sale price. I dig the yokai enemy designs, find the environmental hazards interesting in such a bullet heavy game, and using the shikigami to deal with them makes the game satisfying from a survival perspective to me.
cj_iwakura
Member
I have Under Defeat on PS3, love it. Still need to get Radiant Silvergun...
tomwhite2004
Member
If you dont mind it not being physical then create a japanese account, buy some credit and download it from xbox live. Its still region free so anyone can download it and will cost around $40.
Its actually not that barebones, both games come with arrange modes that are really fun, the screen scaling options are the only lacking part of the package.
tomwhite2004
Member
yep, all the cave games are on the japanese store, if the disc is region free then the download is too.
there is a nice reference for everything available over at the shmups forum...
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=23501
SOME-MIST
Member
didn't realize it was available digitally as mentioned above.
but on amazon.co.jp there was a copy at $76 on February 27th. I actually linked it to someone else for purchase
though you'd need a proxy YAJ had it for as cheap late last year.
ebay UK had it go for 70-80 in the last couple of months too.
petran79
Banned
I play that game on Dreamcast. At least it includes an arranged soundtrack
Gnomepowered
Neo Member
Do you need to use a JP proxy for the initial download only? I wasn't sure how that worked and couldn't seem to find a definite answer at the time. I guess if it's region free, it wouldn't require a check. I managed to get it to work for DDP Resurrection DLC, so guess I can manage it.
tomwhite2004
Member
if the disc is region free then the download is too, no need for a proxy.
edit: if you mean do you have to use the japanese account to play it once downloaded then no. you download the game to your xbox using the japanese account but can then use your normal login, once its on the hard drive it makes no difference which account plays the game.
cj_iwakura
Member
Is the CS version of Darius Burst just a bunch of different bite-size levels with reskins of bosses? Should I be playing the AC version instead? I have the Vita version if it matters.
I LOVE the game so far, just feels a bit repetitive.
I LOVE the game so far, just feels a bit repetitive.
Remembrance
Member
CS mode is where you have actual progression. Unlock ships so that you can use them freely in any level. The bosses are more than just reskins - different versions of bosses also get harder as you advance. And you haven't even seen the last few types of bosses.
AC mode on Vita... might be too small to see anything, to be honest. And it's not that it's less repetitive, it's just that you're playing an arcade-length set of levels each time. Original and EX are just a simple branching set of levels, and Chronicle has thousands more levels than CS (you basically don't have enough time to pick out what levels you're actually playing, and you won't even see a fraction of them, ever).
cj_iwakura
Member
Ah, cool. I'll stick with CS mode then. And yeah, a few of the mid-quest bosses have destroyed me. That damn turtle took forever.
Does Visionnerz play in any of the levels? The Gaiden mission was fun, but I didn't get my real jam.
Gnomepowered
Neo Member
To download the DLC for the region free DDP Resurrection from the European store, I had to connect my 360 through a proxy. Once it was downloaded it was accessible just fine. I figured it is the same for full games, but have never actually tried
Remembrance
Member
Visionnerz played for me on my very first Gaiden mission.
(I went right at the first branch in the levels)
Good news! Senko no Ronde 2 will be released on 6 September, it seems!
Steam page is up: http://store.steampowered.com/app/574160/Senko_no_Ronde_2/
Steam page is up: http://store.steampowered.com/app/574160/Senko_no_Ronde_2/
A Huge Battleship
Member
hype hype hype etc. Wasn't expecting the artist change.
cj_iwakura
Member
The first Gaiden mission I had was to the left, I must have missed that one... the one I got was just three bosses in a row.
sixteen-bit
Member
I will purchase this video game
cj_iwakura
Member
I've hit a wall in CS mode... Hungry Gluttons and Thousand Bullets are destroying me.
Any advice? They just won't die, I can't even get through their defenses.
Any advice? They just won't die, I can't even get through their defenses.
tomwhite2004
Member
cs mode can be pretty tough with the preset ships, especially those that dont allow any power ups or extra shields.
if you have not played through all the arcade routes and got 1cc's yet i would get familliar with that mode first, i think its a much better way to play around with the various ship types, get to grips with the burst cannon and naturally learn the boss attack patterns as you go through it.
if you have not played through all the arcade routes and got 1cc's yet i would get familliar with that mode first, i think its a much better way to play around with the various ship types, get to grips with the burst cannon and naturally learn the boss attack patterns as you go through it.
cj_iwakura
Member
I'm playing on vita, arcade did not look very palatable.
Remembrance
Member
These are the first bosses where you must memorize their patterns. Most importantly, remember when the homing lasers show up.
Hungry Gluttons is much easier than Thousand Bullets once you remember what he does. When he retreats to the background, dodge the fish, don't try to shoot them.
There's no easy formula for the Thousand bosses - you just have to keep trying. Remember that some ships have fixed burst functionality - save your bursts and lay them down in a diagonal line across the screen to stop most of his bullets. Sometimes you can also get behind him for a safe zone.
So guys, what's better in your opnion;
19XX: The War Against Destiny (released in 1996, Capcom)
or
1944: The Loop Master (released in 2000, Raizing)
Both were on the CPS2 hardware, and I don't think either got a home release.
Whereas the previous game, 1941 Counter Attack, was a CPS1 game (released 1990) which was ported to the NEC SuperGrafx in Japan in 1991, and the arcade version only appeared on Capcom Classics Collection Remixed for PSP.
19XX: The War Against Destiny (released in 1996, Capcom)
or
1944: The Loop Master (released in 2000, Raizing)
Both were on the CPS2 hardware, and I don't think either got a home release.
Whereas the previous game, 1941 Counter Attack, was a CPS1 game (released 1990) which was ported to the NEC SuperGrafx in Japan in 1991, and the arcade version only appeared on Capcom Classics Collection Remixed for PSP.
I'm assuming your talking about Loop Master, yeah that is kinda weird.
If you need to cheese something in CS mode use the Murakumo. Besides the overpowered burst (just watch out for that annoying non-burst beam that Thousand likes to fire since it's hard to see through your own burst attack) its ability to swap between the three weapon types with its option formations is extremely helpful as is the options taking hits for you (especially in the circle formation that you'll want to use for damage dealing against bosses anyway).
davidwhangchoi
Member
i love 19XX because the hit box is pretty small on the plane imo.
the Mosquito plane that specializes with the spreader weapon was my main choice.
the Mosquito plane that specializes with the spreader weapon was my main choice.
tomwhite2004
Member
Loop Masters problem is that it simply isn't very good (Raizing of all developers dropping the ball!) There are plenty of vertizontal games that are great, the below doesn't even include a raft of 8 and 16bit console games...
Radiant Silvergun, Soukyugurentai, Mars Matrix, Giga Wing 1+2, Guardian Force, Zanac Neo, Zero Gunner 2, Raystorm, Caladrius, Strania, Alltynex trilogy, Under Defeat HD, Aerofighters 2 + 3, Strikers 1945 Plus, Chaos filed, Super Star Soldier, Final Soldier, Soldier, Blade, Sapphire, Gunhed, numerous Aleste titles etc etc etc
StarCreator
Member
Yeah, he had a pretty epic anti-drug tirade going on despite knowing nothing about what he was talking about and got adversarial when people called him out on not even being willing to educate himself on the subject.Dang Iwakura got banned?
I played 1941 some weeks ago and quite enjoyed it. I feel like Capcom's 19XX series is rather underrated, though tbh I can't get into the older games in the series being the 80s ones
petran79
Banned
I had no idea about Gunbird. Tried Gunbird 2 on Dreamcast. Capcom aesthetic of the 90s was something else. Very nice to throw you right in the start of the last round when you continue. They even kept the arcade slowdown in the second stage. Too bad EU/US versions removed the voice acting.
Now GAF users and mods nightmare will begin
Now GAF users and mods nightmare will begin
Gunbird is actually Psikyo, not internal Capcom. Dope games.
SOME-MIST
Member
(kinda chuckling because that's the only way I recognize his username over the course of the last couple of years - didn't realize that was the case here tho).
gunbird 2 is such an underrated/awesome title. I actually love the "medal-flipping" chaining scoring mechanic (or whatever you'd call it). play it on MAME quite frequently and have streamed it a handful of times, but it's a hard 1CC for me. I'm lucky to get to (or through) stage 4..
edit: actually the gunbird 2 pcb is super cheap too, and I've been eyeing it but I dunno if I'll bite any time soon.
edit 2: cheap meaning like $250 or less
sixteen-bit
Member
JP version is rare
Exactly the same.
Was a budget title in NA and is even online now for $20.
JP version came with an Insanity DVD...but the game is the same and really all that matters (or three games to be exact).
sixteen-bit
Member
Oh wow, Raiden V is coming to PS4
http://gematsu.com/2017/05/raiden-v-directors-cut-ps4-listed-amazon
http://gematsu.com/2017/05/raiden-v-directors-cut-ps4-listed-amazon
Augemitbutter
Member
with soundtrack cd. i'm so in.
sixteen-bit
Member
I wonder if it'll be the same soundtrack that came with the JP X1 release
thelatestmodel
Junior, please.
Nice, thanks for the heads up!
SOME-MIST
Member
hell yes! one of the only reasons I wanted an xbox one. I know it wasn't well received by most people on here/most fans, but I had a lot of fun with it when I was able to get a few runs in during last years shmupsmeet.
day one for sure
Remembrance
Member
Turns out you didn't need the cloud computing power of Microsoft Azure to let other players send you powerups?
I got an Xbox One S in December and immediately bought Raiden V.
But I'll be happy to get the PS4 version.