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[stan423321]

Do we know what online functions are exactly affected by the ban? I have been mostly using eShop and Badge Arcade, so I have no idea if my system's affected (yet?) - I've been rather reckless with its usage, in hindsight. Ran a test Smash match, lost pitifully, got no error messages (O3DS, so that included a soft reboot).

 

[Joey Ravn]

I read it like: 'Don't ask to remove the ban. We're not going to do it and we will not unban you automatically either'.

I don't know either way. I'm just saying that they are not outright saying the ban is permanent, nor that the ban is temporary. Everything else is pure speculation. We'll see in about two weeks.

You are altering the official firmware which is 99.9999% against the Terms of Use and for this, Nintendo may still ban your console. They still want your money so they will not block the eShop (hilarious!! ), but those three games that have online functionality will not have those.

Sure. I'm not in any way saying that Nintendo doesn't have a reason to ban people who use a CFW, since it is indeed against their ToS. But what I was trying to show is that they are not targeting people who overtly cheat or pirate, but rather anyone who has a CFW, even from Themehax.

Do we know what online functions are exactly affected by the ban? I have been mostly using eShop and Badge Arcade, so I have no idea if my system's affected (yet?) - I've been rather reckless with its usage, in hindsight. Ran a test Smash match, lost pitifully, got no error messages (O3DS, so that included a soft reboot).

The eShop is not affected, since it's not an NNID ban. I wouldn't know about the Badge Arcade, but I assume that you can't use it, since your access to online services is revoked. That means online play, Pokémon Bank, Wonder Trade, Mystery Gifts, Friends Lists, etc. DLC and purchases should be unaffected, though.

 

[Daemul]

I've just maned up and checked, and I am still able to connect to Pokemon online features so it seems I've avoided the ban, for now at least.

I'm hearing that the bans may have something to do with Spotpass, and how it sends information of your system to Nintendo unless you turn the option off, but I had the option on(it is now off just in case) and I still have access to online, so who knows at this point.

 

[stan423321]

The eShop is not affected, since it's not an NNID ban. I wouldn't know about the Badge Arcade, but I assume that you can't use it, since your access to online services is revoked. That means online play, Pokémon Bank, Wonder Trade, Mystery Gifts, Friends Lists, etc. DLC and purchases should be unaffected, though.

I'm not sure if we're understanding each other. Badge Arcade works on my 3DS so far, but like eShop it has also been reported to work on systems which have been banned at other stuff. This actually makes minimal amount of sense as Badge Arcade appears to load very much like eShop does, and it doesn't really have players interact with each other.

That said, my stupid Smash test run would probably classify as online play? So, so far, so good.

 

[Joey Ravn]

I'm not sure if we're understanding each other. Badge Arcade works on my 3DS so far, but like eShop it has also been reported to work on systems which have been banned at other stuff. This actually makes minimal amount of sense as Badge Arcade appears to load very much like eShop does, and it doesn't really have players interact with each other.

That said, my stupid Smash test run would probably classify as online play? So, so far, so good.

You appear to be safe for now. If you want to check again, try opening your Friends List. If you get online, see other people and don't get an error message, you're not banned.

As for the Badge Arcade, I don't know. If it loads like the eShop, then it should work. If it loads like a multiplayer game, then it shouldn't work. I guess it's more like the eShop, so if it's working after the ban, the Badge Arcade should also work. I'll check once I get home.

 

[Wichu]

Successfully went online without any errors.

N3DS
Firmware 11.4
A9LH/Luma3DS
Both SpotPass options enabled
A few homebrew apps installed to my home menu
Never played out of region games
Never used FreeShop or otherwise pirated any software

Looks like I'm safe for now?

 

[PAULINK]

Just checked my friends list, not banned atm but i'll check again in a few hours.

 

[ShadowOwl]

Gah, got both options activated all this time. X_X

Not (yet?) banned here, consider me scared though. I really wonder if there still is a pattern to uncover.

 

[FinaruDensetsu]

Where do you go to turn off those spotpass options?

 

[ShadowOwl]

Where do you go to turn off those spotpass options?

System Settings -> Internet Settings -> SpotPass

Edit: Btw, here's the poll by AuroraWright pointing to the SpotPass options possibly being the cause for the bans. https://gbatemp.net/threads/poll-bans-and-send-information-about-the-console-to-nintendo.471814/

 

[Elaugaufein]

System Settings -> Internet Settings -> SpotPass

Edit: Btw, here's the poll by AuroraWright pointing to the SpotPass options possibly being the cause for the bans. https://gbatemp.net/threads/poll-bans-and-send-information-about-the-console-to-nintendo.471814/

That poll suggests it's not just Spotpass but rather something else being reported by Spotpass (the banned / not banned is about equal with it on, but the not banned to banned ratio rises with it off. )

 

[Opa-Pa]

That's really weird... I had the spotpass option off since they one, but around a week ago or so it seemingly turned itself on by itself, maybe it happened long ago and I didn't notice until recently, but I asked a friend and the same happened to him. Could it have been the last firmware update that turned it on in anticipation for this banwave?

Anyways I immediately turned it off last night and did the same with the wireless on my n3DS after confirming I wasn't banned (yet?) via friend list.

 

[Sgt.Pepper]

That poll suggests it's not just Spotpass but rather something else being reported by Spotpass (the banned / not banned is about equal with it on, but the not banned to banned ratio rises with it off. )

Probably any homebrew title showed through spotpass, like FBI/JKSM

 

[Joey Ravn]

Completely unrelated, but...

I'm trying to get TWLoader to work, but I'm hitting several walls. What I want to do is to "import" my games from any of my flashcarts. I currently have a TTDS, an M3 DS Simply, a SuperCard DSTwo and an Acekard 2i.

The only one that I've been able to get working was the TTDS. But instead of being able add games, it boots me into the flashcarts menu. What am I doing wrong? I've tried looking for video tutorials, but everyone is loading games from the SD card, which is not what I want.

 

[Elaugaufein]

Probably any homebrew title showed through spotpass, like FBI/JKSM

No, I don't think so. The ban ratio would be way more lopsided if it was any homebrew title, FBI and the Homebrew​ Launcher are part of the basic setup procedure.

 

[Sgt.Pepper]

No, I don't think so. The ban ratio would be way more lopsided if it was any homebrew title, FBI and the Homebrew​ Launcher are part of the basic setup procedure.

I don't think JKSM is part of that.

 

[Elaugaufein]

I don't think JKSM is part of that.

It isn't. I agree that it's probably some list of specific titles they are looking for but it's probably not any.

 

[Alex Stroud]

Checked today, looks like I caught a ban. I suppose it won't effect me too much since I'm not into online play.

 

[hirokazu]

Do we even know how widespread this ban is? From that "System Information" poll it would suggest just under 40%, but it's hard to gauge because you're more likely to have people posting about it when they're banned than not.

 

[Adam Prime]

Yup, I got the ban.

I'm wondering how this affect WiiU and Switch owners. If you;re banned on 3DS does that mean you can't online play with another Nintendo console on the same account? I'm going to try it out now and fire up Splatoon...

Okay, just got into an online game on Splatoon. So it doesn't seem to affect your NNID on other devices. Oh well, then I really super don't care about not getting online on the 3DS lol.

 

[Sgt.Pepper]

Yup, I got the ban.

I'm wondering how this affect WiiU and Switch owners. If you;re banned on 3DS does that mean you can't online play with another Nintendo console on the same account? I'm going to try it out now and fire up Splatoon...

afaik just system ban.

 

[Drain You]

I almost don't want to check to see if I got a ban on my 3dsXL. Does make me glad I have a N3DS that is still on 11.0 or something not hacked, I'll probably let all the dust settle and see what all comes from this.

 

[Advocatus Diaboli]

So being able to access the eShop, Pokemon Bank, Friends List, and download DLC (Fire Emblem Echoes) means the ban didn't hit me?

I turned off SpotPass now, just to be sure.

 

[hirokazu]

Yup, I got the ban.

I'm wondering how this affect WiiU and Switch owners. If you;re banned on 3DS does that mean you can't online play with another Nintendo console on the same account? I'm going to try it out now and fire up Splatoon...

Okay, just got into an online game on Splatoon. So it doesn't seem to affect your NNID on other devices. Oh well, then I really super don't care about not getting online on the 3DS lol.

It's not tied to your NNID, it checks against your console's localfriendcodeseed_b, which I believe is used to generate your Friend Code. For all intents and purposes, it's a console-specific ban.

If you're banned, when you go online, any service that checks against this, such as your Friends List, and most online pay in games will halt and return the error code. Since the eShop and some apps like the Badge Arcade doesn't use it, those continue to function.

Since the Wii U and Switch have their own Friend Code systems, they're unaffected by this. If you're banned, you should be able to recover if you unlink your NNID from your banned console and link it to an unbanned console, for instance if you need to retrieve Pokémon from Pokémon Bank.

I'm not certain if doing a system transfer to an unbanned console will work since your existing Friend Code is carried over. Maybe? In any case, don't do either of those unless you're moving to an unhacked stock FW 3DS until people figure out what's going on, otherwise chances are you'd just get banned again in future.

 

[Adam Prime]

Losing out on all those great 3DS online features... eyeroll.gif

At least they're smart enough to still let us eShop and buy DLC.

 

[RadioJoNES64]

I was banned and accept my fate, but I am curious as to why Nintendo would wait until two months after the system's successor was released to pull off a ban wave of this scale. Also, I'm glad it wasn't a NNID ban.

 

[Nabae]

Not banned (yet) but at this point I don't really care. Being able to back up my save files is invaluable, and I still have Showdown for my Pokemon battling fix.

 

[fester]

Knowing the pattern/reason for the bans would really be nice. Was it possibly using Freeshop?

 

[Drain You]

Curiosity killed me and I tried to view my friends list, but I'm still on 11.3, so I tried to update Luma so I could get the system update. Luma won't update, tomorrow is another day I guess.

 

[Dr. Worm]

Knowing the pattern/reason for the bans would really be nice. Was it possibly using Freeshop?

It seems to be entirely random; no two circumstances are necessarily alike, and similar circumstances have shown different results.

 

[chronic_archaic]

Got hit with the ban but I expected as much - I basically dropped HBL after homebrew was bootable from the home menu and that probably didn't help. Also nearly played only out of region games for the past few months. I do have a localfriendcodeseed_b that should be fine but holding off injecting it until we know if there's ways to prevent this happening at all. I also need to check if the backup I have is the right one - it might not be the right dump and have my unused file. If that's the case... fuck me, looks like I'm playing 3DS offline.

 

[Sgt.Pepper]

Don't change localfriendlist until we know what causes the bans.

 

[Linkark07]

Man, I'm scared to see if I'm banned (despite not using 3ds online anymore). Gonna check that tomorrow after I disable spotpass.

Edit: avoided the banhammer, for now. Disabled spotpass just in case.

 

[secretanchitman]

I can still use the eShop right? Fine by me because I barely play online as it is anyway on the 3DS.

I'll check my New 3DS later tonight and report back.

 

[FinaruDensetsu]

Shouldn't we probably turn off streetpass as well?

 

[linkboy]

I just checked my friend's list and I haven't been banned yet. Even if I am, I don't really care, I hardly go on-line with it.

 

[PumpkinSpice]

None of my four 3DSes have been banned, including the one where I used pirate software to download games that I paid for on the eshop on my other 3DS. (I don't really consider this pirating so come at me bro)

All of them had the spotpass stuff on but 3 of them are not used very often.

I mostly cared about the one that has hundreds of pokemon saved on Pokemon Bank. I'm glad I made a save backup of all the Pokemon I have on there using Pokemon Y and JKSM just in case.

 

[secretanchitman]

Not banned on my New 3DS and I had Spotpass turned on. Now turned it off and also left wifi disabled for the time being.

 

[Mendrox]

They just want us to buy a Switch lol

 

[AzureSkies]

Checked my friendlist and miiverse, not banned.

11.4
Luma3DS
New 3DS hacked back in January/February.
Only been playing injected VC games and fan translations. No bans so far.
Spotpass was enabled along with share system information.

 

[Kindekuma]

Checked my friendlist and miiverse, not banned.

11.4
Luma3DS
New 3DS hacked back in January/February.
Only been playing injected VC games and fan translations. No bans so far.
Spotpass was enabled along with share system information.

You're not banned, yet. Basically every 3DS running CFW will get banned at one point or another with the waves.

 

[Chucker]

Might as well roll the dice, I don't use online features anyway.

Edit: Friendlist loaded. Had Spotpass on, now off. Had Pokemon a day or so early, maybe.

 

[AzureSkies]

You're not banned, yet. Basically every 3DS running CFW will get banned at one point or another with the waves.

I don't think I've ever played a 3DS game online outside of a single session of MH4U, so I'm happy if eShop access isn't cut off.

 

[Kindekuma]

I don't think I've ever played a 3DS game online outside of a single session of MH4U, so I'm happy if eShop access isn't cut off.

A console ban is literally just getting cut off from playing online multiplayer. You can still access eShop, StreetPass, and whatnot. As someone who plays basically completely offline games this is no issue.

 

[Joey Ravn]

Some people are allegedly reporting that they are getting their consoles unbanned by Nintendo after 24 hours. I've only seen this claimed in Spanish-speaking forums and communities, including Twitter, so I can't give any confirmation as to whether this is real or not.

A console ban is literally just getting cut off from playing online multiplayer. You can still access eShop, StreetPass, and whatnot. As someone who plays basically completely offline games this is no issue.

My only issue is not being able to access Wonder Trade and the GTS on Pokémon Sun. Other than that... what's online multiplayer?

 

[spindoctor]

Curiosity killed me and I tried to view my friends list, but I'm still on 11.3, so I tried to update Luma so I could get the system update. Luma won't update, tomorrow is another day I guess.

If you're still on a9lh the luma updater won't work for you. You need to manually update luma to 7.05 which is the last version that will support a9lh.

 

[Zomba13]

So I've not used my 3DS for a while, I'm still on 11.2 with Luma and a9lh and CFW. How would I go about updating to the latest firmware (both luma and 3DS) to check if I'm banned? And with a ban can you still use the Pokémon bank? That is pretty much the only thing I'd be upset by losing in a ban.

 

[Joey Ravn]

So I've not used my 3DS for a while, I'm still on 11.2 with Luma and a9lh and CFW. How would I go about updating to the latest firmware (both luma and 3DS) to check if I'm banned? And with a ban can you still use the Pokémon bank? That is pretty much the only thing I'd be upset by losing in a ban.

You update Luma first, then your 3DS as you would normally do (via Update System in Settings). You can check if you're banned by, for example, opening up your Friend List. If you get an error, you're banned.

Pokémon Bank doesn't work if you're online-banned, unfortunately.

 

[hirokazu]

You're not banned, yet. Basically every 3DS running CFW will get banned at one point or another with the waves.

While that's plausible, we don't know that yet. Let's wait and see.

 

[Audioboxer]

My 3DS got banned and I can honestly say I have never played anything online. The 3DS itself, however, has been hooked up to WiFi all the time.

It was pretty much an emulation machine, plus a couple of SP games on the go (Animal Crossing ~ But I never even visited anyone). That spotpass setting was on. If you ask me they are banning for CFW being detected and/or the use of applications that do not exist outside of homebrew. If I can get banned it won't just be about going online with modified games/cheating/etc.

Ah well, that's the risk that is taken going online with CFW. While it's not illegal itself to modify your hardware, the Nintendo ToS exist for using their online service. It is a bit strange it has taken them so long to crack down on it.