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Nioh |OT2| You Can Be My Yojimbo Anytime

Deku Tree

Member
I have unlocked some and the description says that it'll teach the mystic art, but nothing happens after finishing them. Are there missions after 500000 affinity?

It unlocks your mystic art for that weapon in your skill tree. There are two for each weapon and you can use one. Look in your skill tree and it should be unlocked.
 

Izuna

Banned
You got lost in Bloodborne? How do you do that? lol Don't even try The Surge then, that game is a maze compared to Bloodborne :)

Don't play The Surge?

Thanks for saving me money. Was already reluctant :p

It's okay, I am literally on final region for WotD now :D. Gunna do it all without upgrading and I feel great about it. Funnily enough Two Kings was far easier than some of the earlier missions :/

God I love this game. Fav game of the generation.
 

Baalzebup

Member
Question, I've been out of the game for a month playing Persona, have they change the rate of blacksmith patron points? It's my last trophy to Platinum and I was initially put off by the grind.
Not that I know of, but that really shouldn't be an issue. Once you hit the divine items and start to really upgrade them, you will get your trophy pronto. I'm sitting on about 300 unspent points since I've already maxed out everything on that front and I'm sure there are quite a few people who have me beat.
 

Izuna

Banned
Yeesh, not liking the prospect of redoing these dojo missions. Might have to specifically respec for them and then respec out.

You guys know those skills at the bottom of the weapons, like Increase Attack ones? I've got it up to +30 so far. Is there a maximum or is it not all that worthwhile?
 

Baalzebup

Member
You guys know those skills at the bottom of the weapons, like Increase Attack ones? I've got it up to +30 so far. Is there a maximum or is it not all that worthwhile?
What else would you spend your samurai points on after you have unlocked all the skills you want for your build? I have a decent number of waste points put on silly things like mystic arts for weapons I don't even use and I still have +50 on melee attack as well. And I'm still below lv 300.
 

burgerdog

Member
Are we getting more dlc single player maps down the road? I bought the season pass and have the first piece downloaded and I'd rather play the game again when all the content is out.
 

Izuna

Banned
What else would you spend your samurai points on after you have unlocked all the skills you want for your build? I have a decent number of waste points put on silly things like mystic arts for weapons I don't even use and I still have +50 on melee attack as well. And I'm still below lv 300.

Ah okay. I think I'll just get myself the skills for other weapons I don't use just so I can use whatever, maybe.

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Big question, what are people's armour build? Any way to get A Agility with 200 Toughness?

I am thinking about upgrading Suzaku with the Fanatic set but I don't think A Agility is possible with it, but I might have a combination.
 

Deku Tree

Member
I decided to skip the Dojo missions on WotD. Did every other mission in the game. Not worried about the trophy. Maybe I'll do it when the level cap is increased IDK.
 

Izuna

Banned
I decided to skip the Dojo missions on WotD. Did every other mission in the game. Not worried about the trophy. Maybe I'll do it when the level cap is increased IDK.

I did them all but the weapons other than Sword and the Onmyou one. I'll try to do Odachi at least, but otherwise they require me to get other skills to not be super silly and long.

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Did some number crunching... +35 (armour toughness attributes) + 13 (prestige points) means I need 152 Toughness total. With A Warrior Monk's Hood (+40% which is incredible), armour which gives me 109 Toughness.
 

Deku Tree

Member
I did them all but the weapons other than Sword and the Onmyou one. I'll try to do Odachi at least, but otherwise they require me to get other skills to not be super silly and long.

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Did some number crunching... +35 (armour toughness attributes) + 13 (prestige points) means I need 152 Toughness total. With A Warrior Monk's Hood (+40% which is incredible), armour which gives me 109 Toughness.

You haven't beaten the game if you don't have the "Kensei" Ungyo title.
 

Baalzebup

Member
Are we getting more dlc single player maps down the road? I bought the season pass and have the first piece downloaded and I'd rather play the game again when all the content is out.
There are at least two more DLC pieces included in the season pass that will have more single player content.

When people here refer to "+1 divine weapons" or +3 etc, what are they referring to? Is there some sort of upgrade system specific to Divine gear?
Yes, that is exactly what they are. As of now, divine tier items can have +# values of up to the maximum of +20 that act much like item levels, but are separate from them. It is a co-system to get bigger numbers on your gear.
 

Izuna

Banned
I need to wear 2 pieces of Fanatic's Armour + use the weapon as off-hand (until I find one with Change to Attack on it), which means a max equipment weight of... Dunno yet.

But it looks like the Toughness and Equipment weight are almost proportional with each other.

4.9 for Arms or Feet
7.9 for Legs
9.7 for Body

Since I will need two pieces, I have to have the Arms and Feet, which is 9.8

.2 goes to Magatama, so that's 10 + 5.5 for Warrior Monk's

Maximum weight for Agility (99 Stamina, 99 Strength) is ~ 16.7, so that's not really possible ;(

damnit...

I should go for just one piece of Fanatic's then
 

Izuna

Banned
Got it figured out...

Now, this is assuming about +14 Toughness from Prestige Points (which isn't that much admittedly, you can get almost twice as much which makes this a bit easier).

The goal is to get A Agility with 200 Toughness for max Poise

Requirements:


At least 142.9 Toughness overall

and then

Warrior Monk's Hood for Total Toughness +40% (you have to farm this from the Bridge fight, try to get a Divine one and Soul Match it)

...

With +35 coming from 5*+7 Attribute on each armour, and the 14 Toughness from Prestige (could be much higher), you will need armour that gives 93.9 Toughness (reminder, the Monk Hood doesn't give any besides the bonus).

My Build:

Warrior Monk's Hood (5.5 Weight)
Yagyu Garb: Kinu (2.9 Weight) (the bonus isn't very good)
Fanatic's Armour: Kote (4.9 Weight)
Iga Jonin Apparel: Hizayoroi (1.9 Weight)
Legendary Strategist's Garb: Kutsu (1.3 Weight)

and the two Magatama etc. take 0.2

Since you need 30.0% or less to have A Agility, that means I would need a Max Equipment Weight of 55.5 ~~ this would be lower, of course, if you got more Toughness from Prestige points.

Since I want to prioritise attack power (if you don't, then just increase Stamina to max then Strength as much as you need, which will take less overall points)... That means I need:

99 Strength (or 67)
96 Stamina (with 99)

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Or just get more Ungyo points for +24 Toughness (what I am gunna do)
 

Baalzebup

Member
I need to wear 2 pieces of Fanatic's Armour + use the weapon as off-hand (until I find one with Change to Attack on it), which means a max equipment weight of... Dunno yet.

But it looks like the Toughness and Equipment weight are almost proportional with each other.

4.9 for Arms or Feet
7.9 for Legs
9.7 for Body

Since I will need two pieces, I have to have the Arms and Feet, which is 9.8

.2 goes to Magatama, so that's 10 + 5.5 for Warrior Monk's

Maximum weight for Agility (99 Stamina, 99 Strength) is ~ 16.7, so that's not really possible ;(

damnit...

I should go for just one piece of Fanatic's then
There is a new, reforgeable armor special for reducing the armor weight. I haven't paid attention to the values all that much, but they've been around 15% at 0 fam.
 

Izuna

Banned
Yeah, with +24 Toughness, you can have as little as 10 Strength (to use items) and 94 Stamina. This will let me max out Heart and Skill and give myself everything else that I need on top. :D

Time to farm Ungyo titles!

There is a new, reforgeable armor special for reducing the armor weight. I haven't paid attention to the values all that much, but they've been around 15% at 0 fam.

Wait wtf?! Really? Goddamnit, gunna look into it

edit: nvm, gotta look for it... I see it, it's a rare one.

oooh, interesting.

If you see it on anything but the Body, let me know
 
Finally managed to snatch the Wotd trophy. Balance has been restored to the universe.
Now to do some title cleanup and leave the game ready to do some leveling every once in a while.
 

Izuna

Banned
Got it, Weight Reduction 14.5 (0 Fam)

... If all pieces of armour can get this that would be incredible.

Can confirm... Body, Legs...
 

Izuna

Banned
At the very least, you can get them on legs and feet. I have a 14.2 value on legs, 13.9 feet.

Cool, so I'll try and see if Arms and Head can get it.

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also, I'm gunna be reforging for this until I get it, haha

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With the preferred armour I want, this means I can get 200 Toughness with just 14.1 Weight :O This is incredible. Which means (since the game goes up in steps), as much Stamina/Strength for 47.0 Maximum Weight for A Agility!! (with +24 Toughness from Ungyo of course)

that means I can have (at level 400)

Body 7
Heart 99
Stamina 34
Strength 99
Skill 99
Dexterity 20
Magic 23
Spirit 21

with 39 points left over :p

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streaming. mostly be build preparing tho www.twitch.tv/izuninja
 

Izuna

Banned
I GOT IT!!! YAAAAAY

Took 2 hours because I was trying to do it on WotD. Got it on WotS second? try

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EDIT:

Got Weight Reduction on every bit of gear now.

THANK YOU GUYS hahaha
 

Izuna

Banned
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Toughness is not quite there yet (need the Ungyou stats and to increase the FAM with the armour), but I've basically got my entire gear with the ideal Attributes.

The Inadome-style Matchlock has Agility Damage Bonus A- at 0 FAM, so that's great. All of this loot from Monk's Hood farming too :D

Basically, all I gotta do is level up my sword to LV200+10 (and 210+20 eventually if I find it) and I'm sorted.

I got Change to Attack (DEX) on a Charm and I'm not sure how good that is. +12%? At what DEX? But whatever.

Also, I got Tenacity (finally), so no more dying through my Ninjutsu just because DOT ignores the revive.

edit: fuck, I should reduce my Max weight to 46.7 (it was just one Stamina point I could get back)
 
Wow Sloth and the Phoenix guardian make this easy. Just re-specced my dude for those abilities and beat the first boss of the DLC on my first try ^_^
 

Izuna

Banned
If you want 210s then you better be able to also make a swallowtail luck build with like 350+ luck and farm reds forever.

Sounds like something I cba doing lol

edit: so uh, it looks like...

Amrita Absorb (increase Attack) with Extraction is SUPER good.

Oh my goodness, this is amazing.

EDIT: 3:22AM and I am ONE TOUGHNESS POINT AWAY! Haha, running out of easy Ungyo points. Goddamn this game is incredible.

EDIT: I DID IT! Unlocked DLC missions for WotD. Time to finally push through.
 

Baalzebup

Member
How do I upgrade them?
Tome has the basic explanation for it once you unlock the divine items, you just need to talk to her and ask about the divine items. You Soul Match items using material with a +# value greater to, or equal to, the +# value of the item you want to upgrade, and then it will go up a single +#. You can never go up more than a single +# per Soul Match and using items with lower +# values as material gets you nothing in that regard.
 
Tome has the basic explanation for it once you unlock the divine items, you just need to talk to her and ask about the divine items. You Soul Match items using material with a +# value greater to, or equal to, the +# value of the item you want to upgrade, and then it will go up a single +#. You can never go up more than a single +# per Soul Match and using items with lower +# values as material gets you nothing in that regard.


Ahhh so I need to wait until I get a +1 item to drop?
 

Jimrpg

Member
So if you're using a 'skin' like Okatsu - they don't wear the armour?

I just beat
Giant Toad
and
Ogress
yesterday.

Giant Toad
wasn't hard, but i kept dying over and over. Once I managed to dodge his jumping down strike and his fire crackers, it wasn't too bad. I beat the
White Tiger
in one attempt so taking an hour to beat
Giant Toad was kind of annoying

Ogress
was annoying too and took a number of attempts. I blew through the stage because I had done everything in the demo. The boss fight with the
Ogress
seemed pretty overpowered however, and I got taken out in one or two swipes. Switched to some better armour, blocked her swipes and was able to survive a little longer. But being able to block some of the attacks just made the boss fight a LOT easier, rather than having to time every dodge.

And Warrior's Monk Hood is great.
 

Izuna

Banned
Nah, they always look the same.

But the fun thing is that the Roar emote has Okatsu scream <3

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I think I am half done with the DLC missions now on WotD. Not as difficult as I thought it would be, I think the update missions are harder.
 

Izuna

Banned
confirming that the toughness rounds up when the 40% is added. I'm supposed to need +24 Toughness from Ungyo, but +23 did it.

Holy crap, A Agility with 200 Toughness is the GOAT

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Just beat both the Iga missions on WotD---very intense fights. I had to switch my build to ninjutsu to even stay alive. My blood pressure is off the charts after doing those back to back.
 

Izuna

Banned
Date Masamune is a prick

edit: took 5 tries, but got him!

edit2: all DLC WotD missions done! woop woop

Definitely going to ignore 210 weapons, especially since Soul Matching is insanely expensive.

I'll clean up the update stuff, and Odachi Dojo missions etc. eventually.

Just loaded up Bloodborne and almost puked at the performance. goddamn, not playing this
 

Deku Tree

Member
I would run another character if they could share (1) gear in the storage space (2) smithing texts (3) titles. I can't be bothered to do those again. Respecing is annoying too.
 
Just loaded up Bloodborne and almost puked at the performance. goddamn, not playing this

If you have a PS4 Pro, boost mode helps but yeah it's gonna be rough going from 60 to 30 FPS. I would recommend trying to get used to it though because Bloodborne is really really good
 

Creamium

shut uuuuuuuuuuuuuuup
Finished the ninja mansion in the fourth region, one of my favorite levels so far. The ninja ambushes give me NG flashbacks. I'm 30+ hours in already, pretty big game.

I'm most impressed by the consistent quality of the level design so far. Every main level has its own little theme or quirk going on. I haven't really played any duds. My least favorite was probably the poison mines, but that's it. I'm starting to get the enemy variety complaint though, that's why I feel a bit burned out on the game sometimes after long sessions.

Still need to play Nier and Horizon, but this is still my frontrunner for goty.
 

Izuna

Banned
Since I'm done with the Nioh DLC... I should play Nier but I'm just playing nothing instead.

I guess Nioh is the only game worth my time these days huh
 
I couldn't get into Nier for some reason.

Also the Onmyo mystic art that gets rid of casting time is insanely OP. That plus Sloth plus a couple random buffs = easy mode. Just beat the base game double boss fights on my first try with that build.
 

Izuna

Banned
I couldn't get into Nier for some reason.

Also the Onmyo mystic art that gets rid of casting time is insanely OP. That plus Sloth plus a couple random buffs = easy mode. Just beat the base game double boss fights on my first try with that build.

Sloth is balanced in WotD and I wish it were like that for all difficulties.
 
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