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[peanutbutterlatte]

It's a competent game in of itself but a complete failure of a Fallout game. After playing New Vegas it's like being slapped in the face with a dick.

Only replaying this year because I'm going to Boston and want to spot some landmarks. Otherwise it's like playing a poor mans single player Borderlands.

 

[Vulcano's assistant]

You'll probably get at least 40 hours out of it just messing around without even doing the quests. Depends on how you feel about playing it as a hobo/ trash collector simulator. It is the main quests what it is underwhelming, but it doesn't play poorly.

 

[EVA UNIT 01]

Only the PC version is worth 20 for mods sake

 

[Huge Succeeded]

Only the PC version is worth 20 for mods sake

That's my opinion in a nutshell, too.

I mean 20 dollars, though... you can't really go wrong, but I've got a strong dislike for Fallout 4. It's the worst mainline Fallout game in my opinion, because it emphasizes half-decent shooting so far over all of the things that defined Fallout as a series before.

The game is awesome. It does not deserve all the hate.

All the criticism.

I know some of you guys wanna frame all negative Fallout 4 discussion as 'hate', because 'haters gonna hate' and that's so much easier to dismiss

but there's very good reasons for that Fallout 4 has seen such criticism.

 

[SamNW]

When I question a game's value or worth, a quick research would net me my answer. However, this one is weird. Looking at videos it looks amazing, reading reviews it sounds promising, but then I read fans reaction and they're mediocre.

So I turn to you GAF, is this game worth it for 20 bucks? It's on sale right now on PSN and Amazon.

Try to ignore the hyperbole and give it a shot. It has plenty of flaws, but Fallout 3 and NV did, too. I don't know your financial situation, but if you have some expendable income, it's certainly worth $20, even if you ultimately don't like it that much.

 

[DustyVonEric]

Yes, it's worth that.

Better than Fallout 3, though not as good as FO:NV imo.

The Commonwealth is great, where FO3 felt generic af.

 

[starchild excalibur]

I guess it depends on if you like it or not. Like, seriously, it's impossible to answer your question definitively since it's all subjective.

I paid $60 for it and enjoyed the game thoroughly. But obviously you'll have a lot of people say it sucks compared to what came before (has that one mission in F:NV already been brought up in this thread?)

If you loved Fallout 3, you'll probably love 4. If you loved F:NV, you probably won't love F4. Personally, I didn't love F:NV.

 

[Dremorak]

I really enjoyed it. Esp playing on survival mode.

 

[dlauv]

It's a good game. Combat's genuinely good, which is a first for the revamped series; and, they've added some RPG depth from Fallout 3 although it doesn't touch New Vegas.

Story is about as good as Fallout 3's, which is to say, not very good. It's perhaps slightly less robotic than prior Bethsoft works. They tried to add idiosyncratic party members, which helps mildly.

More Lovecraftian side-quests than all prior Bethesda games combined.

For $20? I mean, maybe. It's an old game. You could probably get it + season pass for cheaper in a month or two.

My pro strat for maximum enjoyment is to play normally, then crank up the difficulty every time it gets easier (which it does due to power creep). You get better gear and more exp for cranking up the difficulty. Eventually it will get too easy, but that's at least 40 hours in. No cheevos tied to difficulty.

 

[Huge Succeeded]

I absolutely understand the disappointment and contempt some people have with this game. I share that very same disappointment, and if anything, have been far more critical of the game than most. In a constructive manner that is. I hung around the Bethesda forums, and criticism was all I had to offer.

But people claiming it's a "piece of shit" or one of the worst games of this gen, really have no idea what a real bad game is. Fallout 4, despite its flaws and shortcomings, is far from that.

So yes, hyperbole.

Given your username I'd think you'd sympathize, or at least understand that much of the contempt shared re: Fallout 4 is representative of unmet expectations and disappointment in the final game, as opposed to genuine belief that it's one of the worst games of this gen.

As someone who came into Fallout 4 expecting an RPG for some crazy reason, I do think Fallout 4 is a piece of shit, though. It's a polished piece of shit. It looks better and plays better than most pieces of shit. But it contradicts itself and wants me to play an RPG with less potential variation on playstyle or roleplaying ability than in any of their previous games. It gets to the point where every single aspect of Fallout 4's RPG mechanics comes to feel like an afterthought that doesn't mesh with particular design decisions Beth made w/Fallout 4 at all.

 

[DAREALGUMMY]

I know some of you guys wanna frame all negative Fallout 4 discussion as 'hate', because 'haters gonna hate' and that's so much easier to dismiss

but there's very good reasons for that Fallout 4 has seen such criticism.

There's plenty to criticise the game for, but Fallout 4 does seem to get a lot of pure hate as well. A poster even wanted it to fail just because of all the hype it was getting. Calling it one if the worst game someone has played or saying it's not even worth $5 is a bit much.

 

[j0nnyboy]

Of course its worth $20. Come on... Anyone saying its not is being ridiculous.

I would however wait for a GOTY edition though. Or wait til you could find the season pass for like 5 to 10 bucks.

 

[Pryce]

No. Buy New Vegas with the expansions and play one of the greatest games ever made.

 

[Empyrean Heaven]

For 20? Sure. It wasn't nearly as good as 4 or even New Vegas but it was a good enough way to spend 30 hours.

 

[joecanada]

yes 20 dollars is more than fair for this game, if you like fallout. and by fallout I mean the modern run around shoot shit, sneak, make traps, laugh at ridiculous layouts, diaries, storylines, etc.

not the long since dead dream of "ye old fallout rpg 1, 2" that you see here all the time.

 

[Papasmurf531]

Fallout 4 and MCC are the biggest disappointments in game to me *sigh*
I would rather play 3 over 4, to be honest.

 

[OmegaDL50]

I justified my reasoning for making a thread had you read the OP of the thread, sir.

Ignore him. Being a member for any considerable time he would know that one can be banned for thread whining.

Fallout 4 is a good game, but it seems a lot of folks on GAF have a general hatred towards Bethesda stuff, so this paints the picture somewhat.

This isn't a Fallout game developed by Interplay or Obsidian and apparently that is a desecration. If you enjoyed Fallout 3, then Fallout 4 improves upon it in many ways, mechanically and gameplay wise. So yeah $20 is a good price.

Considering I paid $40 for with the $20 Season Pass before it was jacked up to $50. So yeah for $20 it's not a bad deal.

 

[evolve9]

I'd say go for it. As far as I'm concerned it's a great game on it's own, with some fun and whacky quests and fantastic as always exploration. The world is more vibrant and colorful and the combat is finally satisfying in a Bethesda game.

It falls flat on it's face when compared to New Vegas, but if you look at the game on its own and don't expect the same freedom of choice and quality writing NV had, you'll have a good time with it.

 

[Rushersauce]

yes 20 dollars is more than fair for this game, if you like fallout. and by fallout I mean the modern run around shoot shit, sneak, make traps, laugh at ridiculous layouts, diaries, storylines, etc.

not the long since dead dream of "ye old fallout rpg 1, 2" that you see here all the time.

You are talking non sense. F4 gets the hate it gets because people were expecting a better game than NV (Best and ONLY modern Fallout game deserving of the name), and instead got a castrated mess of a game.

 

[SmokedMeat]

Absofuckinglutely if you take it for what it is and aren't focused on how it compares to New Vegas or whatever.

Fallout 4 is the one game where I love the environments and whatnot, so I'm playing it as a fps. Used a couple mods for unlimited ammo and some shit to deal with the radiation. I'm playing it my way and it's way more fun.

 

[dlauv]

If anyone was actually expecting Bethsoft to produce Obsidian's writing and RPG synergy then they were playing themselves.

 

[BlondeTuna]

Worth 20$, not worth your time.

This. For what you pay, you have a lot of gameplay and world exploration, and the game improves on Fallout 3 in almost every way, but the story is awful, and other open world RPGs like Witcher 3 and even New Vegas, a game from 2010, blow it out of the water with the writing, narrative and character development.

I put 20 hours in and I have no desire to continue.

 

[alexbull_uk]

If you accept it for what it is (that is, a very 'light' RPG) then absolutely it's worth $20.

 

[Dr.Sanchez]

Not sure if it's worth it if it's not on pc. As soon as I started playing it a few weeks ago I installed a ton of mods to make it a more s.t.a.l.k.e.r- like experience and it has been pretty fun so far.

The story is wack though. The pacing feels off and I'm finding it to be boring.

The RPG elements are weak as well, unfortunately. Many perks consist of damage boosts instead of there being one-off perks that do something interesting(there are a couple of those, just not as much as I would like).

 

[Biske]

Its worth 20 bucks totally.

Fallout 3 had a better, more satisfying story though.

 

[joecanada]

You are talking non sense. F4 gets the hate it gets because people were expecting a better game than NV (Best and ONLY modern Fallout game deserving of the name), and instead got a castrated mess of a game.

NV is just an expanded version of F3 ... it was always going to be better because they took the same game and expanded on it. you can't release the same game twice but you can release a better version again if you work on it. that and obsidian obviously does better stories than beth. so I don't know anyone who expected F4 to have obsidian level story, except the people who were hoping based on not much evidence.

also NV is only better in structure, if you still mostly enjoy running around shooting, reading, trapping, fighting, exploring, etc, you barely would even notice the differences. and that includes many people. I never even knew NV was considered any better until reading about it here.

 

[Huge Succeeded]

There's plenty to criticise the game for, but Fallout 4 does seem to get a lot of pure hate as well. A poster even wanted it to fail just because of all the hype it was getting. Calling it one if the worst game someone has played or saying it's not even worth $5 is a bit much.

I honestly think that Fallout 4 hate on GAF was worse before the game came out, when it was largely baseless complaining, unproven assumptions, and intentional FUD spreading, from a selection of GAF's most vocal gaping buttholes.

I remember seeing people's reactions to incredibly blurry pre-release potato footage, saying they could clearly make out re-used assets from Fallout 3. When called out, the argument shifted to "Oh, well, the fact that I can even make the comparison is telling". They were right about that, but not in the way they thought they were.
I remember seeing somebody post a misleading screenshot from the car factory, implying that it was one tiny room, what a disappointment, how could this possibly be a car factory, has Bethesda ever even looked at pictures of one? Ultimately I've traversed very few indoor locations in Fallout that were larger than the Corvega factory - and all of them, save for McCarran Airport, were locations in Fallout 4.

That shit was common. felt like 25 posts of that kind on a page, common. That's when the hate felt like really just hate. siren gifs bring me back to those days

 

[Mister_Ruck]

I really didn't enjoy it very much. If you're asking about the PC version then you should also know ahead of time that you're probably in for some light (i assume) modding because the default UI is really, really bad.

 

[Currygan]

Yes. It's janky, graphically underwhelming, lolworthy plot, but if ya like to lose yourself in a giant ass map with tons of completely explorable locations it's a damn good way to entertain yourself for many, many hours

Ignore pretty much the ridiculously overblown hate the game gets on here, it's when Neogaf gives its absolute worst and it's not worth wasting time for

 

[120v]

i don't think the game ever really had a chance coming off New Vegas and Skyrim (yeah, skyrim has its fair share of detractors but even the most vocal ones sank like 200+ hrs into it)

i mean, the game obvs has problems i won't defend but the hate is blown way out of proportion. definitely worth the prices its going for these days along with the season pass

 

[Kssio_Aug]

All the criticism.

I know some of you guys wanna frame all negative Fallout 4 discussion as 'hate', because 'haters gonna hate' and that's so much easier to dismiss

but there's very good reasons for that Fallout 4 has seen such criticism.

Exactly. Some people are trying to distort things. The game is not a complete trash, but it deserves most the criticism it gets. It's repetitive and delivers everything it has to offers in the first couple hours.

The shooting mechanics got better, but the sense of exploration and expectation of finding a better loot and more interesting weapons quickly falls flat.

 

[Kthulhu]

I really didn't enjoy it very much. If you're asking about the PC version then you should also know ahead of time that you're probably in for some light (i assume) modding because the default UI is really, really bad.

That dialogue UI mod is basically mandatory.

 

[tenderbrew]

Get NV instead. Way better and cheaper.

 

[psychotron]

It's worth $60. People bitch a lot. Sure it's not as good as NV, but it's a good game.

 

[ScientificPizza]

All the criticism.

I know some of you guys wanna frame all negative Fallout 4 discussion as 'hate', because 'haters gonna hate' and that's so much easier to dismiss

but there's very good reasons for that Fallout 4 has seen such criticism.

That's true, but Fallout 4 does still receive a ton of hate

 

[Relique]

I just completed my 80 hour playthrough today. Finished every quest that I came across. I gotta say, even for someone who doesn't mind to do mundane stuff in games this game really felt like a chore.

Even Fallout 3 was better than this. New Vegas was leagues ahead. There is just nothing interesting about it. I would say that out of the 80 hours I spent in there only 5 hours were interesting at all. Characters are boring. There aren't any cool surprises. And despite having so many areas to explore there really isn't anything interesting to find.

I only completed it out of sense of obligation. 7/10 game at best, and this is me being generous due to how well it runs on my PC. Playing at 100 fps with barely any drop frames felt pretty good.

 

[Huge Succeeded]

That's true, but Fallout 4 does still receive a ton of hate

I guess I can concede to that. People do bitch about Fallout 4 a lot. It's harder for me to call it 'hate' like I might in regards to discussion surrounding some other games, though, because the lions share of negativity re: F4 come from people who have played the game themselves. People who paid for and omitted large amounts of time to Fallout 4 because they loved Fallout 3 and/or Fallout: New Vegas and expected something that would match up in their eyes. I suppose people could be more amiable or more descriptive about their beefs beyond just "Fallout 4 sucks", but I think most of the people posting in this thread don't feel like they have to qualify their answer with specifics, least of all because we've all heard it before in a billion other threads.

 

[Gator86]

All the criticism.

I know some of you guys wanna frame all negative Fallout 4 discussion as 'hate', because 'haters gonna hate' and that's so much easier to dismiss

but there's very good reasons for that Fallout 4 has seen such criticism.

Fucking absolutely. Any post I see talking about hate is almost automatically a shitpost in my eyes.

 

[tanooki27]

it gets an outsized amount of hate cause it couldn't live up to the dream game idea skittering around the heads of many fans. it's easily worth 20, cause it's so engrossing.

I recommend playing as the woman. the voice actress is a bit more dynamic

 

[benzopil]

It's a great and fun game.

 

[gogosox82]

For $20? Sure its got decent shooting and its fun exploring.

 

[The Greek Freak]

No.

More importantly it's not worth your TIME even if it is 100% free for you.

 

[SolarMystic]

When I question a game's value or worth, a quick research would net me my answer. However, this one is weird. Looking at videos it looks amazing, reading reviews it sounds promising, but then I read fans reaction and they're mediocre.

So I turn to you GAF, is this game worth it for 20 bucks? It's on sale right now on PSN and Amazon.

Best Fallout game since Bethesda took it over.

Gaf probably isn't the best place to ask as the majority (or at least a very vocal group) collectively shits on Bethesda games, particularly of the Fallout variety.

If you own a PC or Xbox I definitely recommend giving it a try for $20. The mod scene on both those platforms is pretty great.

Story and writing are my main two complaints, though I don't think I've ever played a Bethesda game for either of those two points. However if you put a good deal of emphasis on those, you'll probably be disappointed.

 

[Wulfram]

The median player on steam played this game for 60 hours. That's pretty crazy, and hardly indicative of a bad game.

So yeah, its probably worth $20. Unless you've got limited time and are looking for something short and sweet, anyway.

 

[Huge Succeeded]

Best Fallout game since Bethesda took it over.

Story and writing are my main two complaints, though I don't think I've ever played a Bethesda game for either of those two points. However if you put a good deal of emphasis on those, you'll probably be disappointed.

Let me show you a hypothetical that reads exactly like your post does to long-time fans of the fallout Franchse.

Best Forza game since Gearbox took it over.

Poor handling physics and very few cars to drive are my main two complaints, though I don't think I've ever played a Gearbox game for either of those two points. However if you put a good deal of emphasis on those, you'll probably be disappointed.

With that said - I'm not going to tell you you're wrong, Fallout 4 is just fine if you don't care as much about story, about RPing, about some aspects of player choice.

It's just that I am still very uncomfortable with the thought that I can't place emphasis on story and writing when approaching a Fallout game, of all series, lest I walk away disappointed.

 

[peanutbutterlatte]

Let me show you a hypothetical that reads exactly like your post does to long-time fans of the fallout Franchse.

Fallout 4 sucks but y'all need to get over yourself 10 years ago.

 

[benzopil]

Let me show you a hypothetical that reads exactly like your post does to long-time fans of the fallout Franchse.

It may be a bad Fallout game, but it's still a good and fun game. Even story DLCs were fun.

 

[Orthogonal]

The median player on steam played this game for 60 hours. That's pretty crazy, and hardly indicative of a bad game.

So yeah, its probably worth $20. Unless you've got limited time and are looking for something short and sweet, anyway.

That's pretty impressive for any game. Where do you find this data?

 

[truly101]

If you liked 3 and NV, I'd say so. It does have some serious flaws, particularly in the narrative about 2/3rds of the way through.

 

[teh_pwn]

If you're bored.

It's an average game with all RPG elements ripped out. Like an average comedy being better in theaters so was Fallout 4 at launch hype.