boredandlazy
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This thread has really brought out the Sony fanboys.
I'm pretty sure both sets of fanboys are going hard in this thread.
This thread has really brought out the Sony fanboys.
Aaaaaaaaahhhhhh
Edit: everyone is quoting me because I didn't quote the pic. Credit to panda-zebra for posting
Good guy Phil is doing his job and trying to sell a product.By my count, he has said this is three different places: Eurogamer, Verge, and GameSpot.
He is intentionally trying to rile people up. What happened to Good Guy Phil?
Leaked photo of Sony's backroom hangout:
This is almost as if a system coming out more than a year later at $100 more was supposed to be more powerful... . Given the circumstances, Xbox Scorpio performance and target HW is part for the course. It is good, but a year of extra R&D and a much higher retail price make it expected not OMG cannot believe how powerful it is.
PS Sport was touted as doing 4K 60 with checkerboard last I remember:Racing games aren't possibly the best benchmark. Isn't Gran Turismo also currently doing this?
Yes, this is all true, and I agree, it's power is commensurate with this years tech etc, but I don't think this is what is being argue'd..This is almost as if a system coming out more than a year later at $100 more was supposed to be more powerful... . Given the circumstances, Xbox Scorpio performance and target HW is part for the course. It is good, but a year of extra R&D and a much higher retail price make it expected not OMG cannot believe how powerful it is.
remember when in any xbox thread peeps would post PS4 specs, in literally any xbox thread? even when it had othing to do with the game? bam! PS4 specs.
Because MS on a marketing point of view is pushing for TRUE 4k. They basically need 4x the power of the OG XBOX One just for increasing the resolution from a 1080p game, and consequently don't have that much leftovers to increase the details per pixel you'd like to see to blow the competition away.
yeah his wording is dumb as fuck. It should be pretty clear to everyone that each brand has a base model and a 4k model and thats all that matters to most people out there. Only the people really into their gaming will even be looking much deeper than that. And even then the better specs will only matter so much. When Pro can put out stuff like horizon that looks amazing and 4k CB looks close enough to native 4k that most people wont see the difference that additional power speak wont move many units in the grand scheme of things.
They would be more wise to say it is competing with the Pro and tell you why its so much better. Would still make little difference really without the games. With out the reasons to buy the system in the first place (exclusives) then tech specs and resolutions dont even really matter.
By the looks of it neither side has really set the world on fire with exclusives this E3 but People looking to by a system from scratch and want 4k will look at the current library of exclusives, price and what their friends play. What your friends play can often mean you ignore all other points so those people dont even need to know more beyond that. Price and exclusives I think both are clearly better currently on Sonys side.
I really want MS to step up their game on the game side. Its been pretty dissapoitning as of late. they did so well last gen. There has been to much pinning their hopes on those old franchises for my tastes and not enough new stuff that is really shining.
Show me a game that looks as good as Horizon.
I love console wars so much. Keep that marketing alive Phil!
The funny thing here is that as far as "arrogant MS" goes, they weren't this er... confident about power... even back when their hardware relative to competitors actually had the gap that 1X has to 1S.Snubbers said:Phil is a tool for saying PS4 Pro is competing with XB1S
Show me a game that looks as good as Horizon.
Let me tell you something...I can guarantee that by the end of this generation, best looking and most technically advanced games on any console will be Sony first party games (GoW, TLoU, Horizon..etc) ... Also people here are really exaggerating X power, Difference with Pro will be Native vs checkerboard period.
Let me tell you something...I can guarantee that by the end of this generation, best looking and most technically advanced games on any console will be Sony first party games (GoW, TLoU, Horizon..etc) ... Also people here are really exaggerating X power, Difference with Pro will be Native vs checkerboard period.
A mate sent me a link to an old ass IGN article which feels not a million miles away from this:
http://uk.ign.com/articles/2005/06/08/kutaragi-takes-shots-at-xbox-360
Krazy Ken from 2005 basically saying Xbox 360 isn't competing with PS3, but PS2
I always imagine how Phil Spencer and Mark Cerny hang out at a bar after E3 and laugh together about all these threads. Kind of like wrestling. #itsstillrealtome
It's freaking astonishing how fast they change their tune once they have something to gloat about.
He is right.
I really wish Sony would have made the Pro better, because I don't give a shit about the games on Xbox One.
If you are going to make a high end product, do it.
No he is not right, he is saying that the OX is a true 4K system when its not. Not all games will be 4K native on it (same as the Pro) so he is factually lying.
You mean just like when Sony said all the games would be 1080p on PS4? They all do it and they all mean that mostly the games will hit that resolution.
You mean just like when Sony said all the games would be 1080p on PS4? They all do it and they all mean that mostly the games will hit that resolution.
I am interested in seeing screens. So far what Sony showed looked better than forza, rares game and crackdown.
A lot of third party stuff was looking better too.
Seems at this power level it takes talent and man power to pull it off and more power doesn't seem to equate to an overall better looking game.
Atleast that's what I felt during thier conference
You then are about to launch an X1X, which is has the following extra 'resource' available over the PS4P:
50% more GPU TFlops
PS Sport was touted as doing 4K 60 with checkerboard last I remember:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-gran-turismo-sport-ps4-pro-analysis
It was interesting to hear god of war was base ps4 too and looked good.as is the case any other time. look at ryse at the xbox one's launch. arguable a better looking game than anything on the PS4 at that time despite being 900p and running like a bag of spanners.
i've said it elsewhere, but i imagine games like god of war will be a more impressive graphical benchmark in faux-K than anything that releases on the new xbox in "true 4k" (which apparently means checkerboarding and dynamic resolutions anyway). because ultimately resolution isn't the be all/end all of great looking games. it's just an element of it. and in terms of studios who push graphics regardless of technology...well sony seems to own them all
Damn, I wouldn't want to touch Spencer's skin with desperation and insecurity leaking out of every pore like that. Somebody's shook that their console costs $100 more and has a noticeably inferior library of exclusives, all while looking (at best) marginally better than the competition.
(Please, call me a Sony fanboy. I've never owned a single Playstation product.)
Damn, I wouldn't want to touch Spencer's skin with desperation and insecurity leaking out of every pore like that. Somebody's shook that their console costs $100 more and has a noticeably inferior library of exclusives, all while looking (at best) marginally better than the competition.
(Please, call me a Sony fanboy. I've never owned a single Playstation product.)