sleepnaught
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Dont know about $15 but I've used a $30 400w EVGA PSU in a few builds for my boss and family and its worked perfectly. Got an i5+GTX 760 in my mom's computer and it has zero issues.
Dont know about $15 but I've used a $30 400w EVGA PSU in a few builds for my boss and family and its worked perfectly. Got an i5+GTX 760 in my mom's computer and it has zero issues.
XboneX buffer needs to be used to store game state AND rendering assets. On PC the video buffer stores rendering assets and system ram stores state and likely an asset cache.
The end result is that it's unlikely that you'll see any issues in games running at xbone levels and performance targets on pc with a system running 8 gigs of system ram plus 6 or more of vram.
While the OS and recording game video feature will take up some resources, basically the games on the XB1X have 12GB RAM shared for the CPU and GPU (9GB for games) and the PC in this example has 8GB system RAM and 6GB that's tied to the GPU, for a 14GB total.
The PS4 and Xbox One consoles have unified memory pools, this is a combination of system memory and graphics memory in one place, meanwhile PCs with discrete GPUs have split memory pools, the system memory and the graphics memory.
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If there is anything you'd like to add or if you think I'm wrong about something please feel free to correct me.
The PC is still a better value when you consider things like free online, front ends , emulators, no restrictions. Bonus, You could also run all the old stuff at 4k too.
xbox one x wont be doing anything like this anytime soon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPYBuRQ8tjQ
Emulators and free online are irrelevant. This is about price/performance.
The PC is still a better value when you consider things like free online, front ends , emulators, no restrictions. Bonus, You could also run all the old stuff at 4k too.
xbox one x wont be doing anything like this anytime soon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPYBuRQ8tjQ
A $15 PSU for a $200 1070?????
Pffffffffft
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
This is the best shit I've read all week
It boggles my mind the quality of parts people "recommend" when they're trying to rationalize a par-build. A $20 PSU, let alone that brand, will never be anywhere near one of my builds.
Also, you don't need a paid anti-virus membership, in my experience. Either you're on a mainstream OS like Windows which has totally adequate tools built in, or you're using a Linux distribution, and no one making the viruses cares to put in the effort.
Below is the load table for this unit. The bulk of this unit's capabilities are not on the 12V rail, since it is only rated for 22 amps. Clearly, this unit is not based on a modern design, and also does not have the capabilities for handling any system other than a simple office machine.
The PC can't sit under my tv and play all my media though can it?
Emulators and free online are irrelevant. This is about price/performance.
The PC can't sit under my tv and play all my media though can it?
Um, yeah it can.
Its not irrelevant if you're talking value.
Price performance and value = PC wins. Always
Sure it can. Mine sits behind my TV, hooked into my receiver, which splits it across the TV, monitor and projector. It plays more media than any other device I can think of.
The PC is still a better value when you consider things like free online, front ends , emulators, no restrictions. Bonus, You could also run all the old stuff at 4k too.
xbox one x wont be doing anything like this anytime soon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPYBuRQ8tjQ
So TV, 4K Blu-ray and Netflix, Amazon, iPlayer etc can all be on a small easily controllable PC that looks nice under a TV and plays games as well as 1X for how much?
I'm not sure how much a 4K bluray player costs, if they do one, or how many people would even care, but yeah to everything else.
You can watch live tv through iplayer, Skygo, itv etc through your browser. If you really wanted a tv card they're cheap, but you've probably got a tv you're using to watch tv if you've got the pc hooked up to a tv
Control the whole thing using Unified Remote on your phone
I have Virgin Media that plugs into my Xbox. I can control my PC in the way you mentioned but my wife and son can't which is why I have an S under my TV and not a PC.
That's not bad, actually. I've liked EVGA stuff, though I tend to over-spec on power supplies (I've known enough people who had bad experiences where more expensive parts got damaged as a result), so I'm less familiar with parts in that range.
I'm sure someone already pointed this out but one of the primary reasons why it's tougher to build an equivalent PC to the X1X is because the CPU and GPU are on one single die as an APU.
There currently aren't any APUs from AMD that have a powerful enough GPU to compare to the one in the X1X.
A big positive of PC gaming is you can certainly get close to the X1X with current hardware and surpass the X1X at anytime when the budget allows for it.
That's awesome! I have my PC way too far away from the living room so PC gaming and console gaming has always been isolated from each other. Steam Link is a decent solution for some games though.Sure it can. Mine sits behind my TV, hooked into my receiver, which splits it across the TV, monitor and projector. It plays more media than any other device I can think of.
So TV, 4K Blu-ray and Netflix, Amazon, iPlayer etc can all be on a small easily controllable PC that looks nice under a TV and plays games as well as 1X for how much?
oh man, we're getting the thread off to a great start already.
So TV, 4K Blu-ray and Netflix, Amazon, iPlayer etc can all be on a small easily controllable PC that looks nice under a TV and plays games as well as 1X for how much?
This sounds great but our smart TV will be dropped out of youtube support, because samsung won't update the app on the older devices.Most new TVs have these great apps already built into them. Bolded a few I see that are on mine.
FYI my 4K TV costed less than buying a console. It also has other great apps. Though if you play games yea this becomes moot.
But for netflix...no need. Even youtube is great just throw it from yea phone to the TV.
That would be sweet!Well, scorpio isn't out yet. Who knows, maybe the individual components will be just a bit lower by the time it is released, making it possible to build a 500 PC with the same specs by then.
This sounds great but our smart TV will be dropped out of youtube support, because samsung won't update the app on the older devices.
Yes. I can only pair devices with the app and start playing yt videos on the tv while the app is open.Do you even need a youtube app on the TV to use your phone's cast function?
Wrong, shown again and again.Price/performace = Consoles will always reign supreme.
I think this comparison is kind of silly. For the gamer that wants the premium experience, building the PC is the way to go even if slightly more expensive. MS gets props for building a 4K capable console at $499, but I think it's a risky proposition to buy it day 1 because we don't know yet if developers will optimize their games to fully take advantage of the console's power.
Yes. I can only pair devices with the app and start playing yt videos on the tv while the app is open.
Sure it can. Mine sits behind my TV, hooked into my receiver, which splits it across the TV, monitor and projector. It plays more media than any other device I can think of.
They managed to get CD projekt to patch Witcher 3. I think support will be fine. Especially as dynamic res becomes the norm.
Not only that, I learned many years ago gpu's need to have enough on the +12v rail to run good, if at all.
Case in point:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-3047832/diablotek-400w-review-inside.html
That $15 psu in the build for $494 a few pages back?
What gpu are you gonna use with this power supply?
I bet you wouldn't have any problems running a 1060 on it.
Either way, an EVGA PSU is $5 more. Corsair bronzes even go on sale pretty often for $20-30.
People always over budget psu, especially for a 1060 which is a power sipper. Entire system load isn't even going to break 250w.
I have a $50 EVGA 800w bronze running 2 1070s with zero issues. 36,500 graphics score. I don't think I need a $100+ PSU, thanks.
Yes there is, PowerDVD 17 Ultra.
I use a PC exclusively but these console matching builds just for the purpose of matching price and performance of a console are annoying.
The configurations they came up with make no sense. Sure, one could bring the cost down even further by reusing a case or buying a used/refurbished component or two. The focus is all on price matching console with little or no attention paid to how usable the PC would be.
No mention of monitor. Have they actually tried building this PC and using it with a 4K TV? While consoles are typically plug & play with TV's, a PC plugged into a unit that can't do native 4K/60Hz, ahs significant input lag or on a non 4:4:4 compliant TV is atrocious.
I moved my PC into the living room and I had to opt for an expensive TV to serve as a monitor, cheaper 4K sets provide a bad experience.
No keyboard and mouse in their config, I would maybe let them slide with a cheap membrane keyboard but try playing a online shooter with a cheap mouse.
8GB RAM and FX 8300 for a new 4K build in 2017? That right tells me they were so blinded by their focus to match a console that they totally ignored how much sense it actually makes to build this PC and no consideration for the lifetime of the build, this thing is already obsolete.
I have built more than a few PC's for my friends but if they brought these parts to me I would refuse to assemble it.
The $500 console has a lifespan that also has to be a consideration for these builds and a competing PC would cost significantly more.
Whoever writes these articles/proposes these builds should be forced to exclusively use the abominations they proposed for an extended period of time.
Quote myself from the other day...
When you add $50 for the GPU(6GB variant), $30 for a PSU that won't set on fire, $30 for a decent mini-itx case, $120 for a UHD BD drive, $90 for Windows 10, $20 for cheapass KB/M to install Win10, and $50 for a Xbox One gamepad and bluetooth receiver you hit $884.
That build is a fucking travesty.
It boggles my mind the quality of parts people "recommend" when they're trying to rationalize a par-build. A $20 PSU, let alone that brand, will never be anywhere near one of my builds.
Also, you don't need a paid anti-virus membership, in my experience. Either you're on a mainstream OS like Windows which has totally adequate tools built in, or you're using a Linux distribution, and no one making the viruses cares to put in the effort.