ColonialHawk
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Have you seen Tekken? Shits mad anime in style.
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Marvel Vs. Capcom: Infinite Characters and Stages Roster Discussion Thread
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lucebuce12
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I get Marvel and KOF, but why is Tekken in a anime tournament?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caqVYPlkiUk
I get Marvel and KOF, but why is Tekken in a anime tournament?
Why is Skullgirls there for that matter, shit ain't even Japanese.
Honestly, if you want to get down to it, Street Fighter is as anime as Tekken or KOF.
lucebuce12
Member
The only major fighting game right now that isn't anime is Killer Instinct and Injustice 2.
Jawmuncher
Member
Anime inspired still counts
Doctrine Dark
Member
I was actually surprised to see a Japanese Skullgirls Arcade cabinet in a video I had watched. I wonder if the game gets serious play there.
Everything thats not marvel gets serious play in Japan
Doctrine Dark
Member
I think MVC3 might've been the first game that had a nice following in Japan.
This probably could've been better had MVC3 gotten an Arcade version.
SFXT was ignored pretty quickly there. Japan's SFV's scene is pretty small compared to SF4. Arcade really matters there.
AWizardDidIt
Member
Thanos and Ultron looks so amazing. People (rightfully) diss on the graphics in cinematics but in motion I think it all looks pretty great.
I can't wait to see how Jedah looks and plays.
This is me (Cap/Ultron) vs LI Joe (Thanos/Ultron). Much slop, but we were figuring it out!
So not counting DLC the list of newcomers is as followers right?
Captain Marvel
Ultron
Thanos(completely new moveset)
Antman/The Winter Soldier
X
Jedah
Monster Hunter
That adds up to 7 newcomers total unless I'm missing anybody so 1/4 of the roster is newcomers which I'm unsure how I feel about considering it's a really small roster and mvc3 was almost half newcomers. DLC will help bring that up to over a third but that shouldn't be an excuse
No it's not. In the demo some characters like Captain America couldn't air dash
Captain Marvel
Ultron
Thanos(completely new moveset)
Antman/The Winter Soldier
X
Jedah
Monster Hunter
That adds up to 7 newcomers total unless I'm missing anybody so 1/4 of the roster is newcomers which I'm unsure how I feel about considering it's a really small roster and mvc3 was almost half newcomers. DLC will help bring that up to over a third but that shouldn't be an excuse
No it's not. In the demo some characters like Captain America couldn't air dash
You forgot Gamora.
what else is new? 3 had what? One? Storm.
I thought we progressed a lot since 6 years, that's all.
lucebuce12
Member
Shit, now i'm wondering what happens if you try to add the Tan option to Master Raven? 🤔
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Same here. If we didn't get BOF character this year then We need to campaigning for any BOF character on Twitter, polls, etc to see if we could convince them put one in.
She goes from beautiful milk chocolate to beautiful dark chocolate.
I really thought we would get either Falcon, Luke Cage, or Black Panther. I feel like this is a recipe for the Tumblr/SJW sphere of the Internet to start calling this game out as racist which could lead to another PR disaster
She just gets darker.
lucebuce12
Member
Hmmm. 🙂
The Lone Dragon
Member
Though, I wish there were more, Black Panther is already confirmed for the game, DLC or not, so no one will have much to say about that.
christiankid7
Member
If the CEO/E3 builds are 3 months outdated, is there any hope that the graphical issues will be fixed/improved upon release?
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/202465-marvel-vs-capcom-infinite/75478703
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/202465-marvel-vs-capcom-infinite/75478703
Smooth Operator
Member
Don't hold your breath. Imo, the Ui will be updated, but i don't expect a single change on Chun Li's face / animations, etc...
Sure, they will.
I mean, I can't imagine people who may be interested in finding and playing a game that has BP in it, after seeing the movie, are going to be pleased as punch that in order to play as him in the newest MvC, they have to buy the game PLUS purchase the extra DLC on top to unlock him.
Black Panther should be base roster 100%.
We can hope, but why not show new screens then?
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Yep, he should have. At least his model looks great and badass.
I wouldn't get my hope high for that tho.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Credit to RNGNoizyChild @ GameFaqs
The game is insanely fun and addictive. This is without question the most creative and free-form Marvel ever.
Got to talk to Damon Anderson, one of the eSports guys at Capcom, about the build. Apparently, the E3/CEO build is about 3 months outdated.
Game System
You will be tagging. A LOT. Both on offense and defense, either to press your offense, to create mixup situations, or to keep a move safe.
The post KO choppiness in the story demo is gone. The story demo is an even older build.
The game is very hectic and fluid. Nova and Ultron have tri-dashes on par with Magneto.
USE. YOUR. INFINITY. STONES.
Double down motions became second nature to me after a couple games.
Every character has a bunch of new normals. Some of the old normals in UMVC3 are command normals now. (Nova's slide, Spencer's j.S, etc.)
Characters can't be chip killed outside of Supers, like SF5.
Throws take away red life like in SFxT.
Didn't get to play every character, but here are the ones that I did get to try and/or see:
Nova
- Dolphin Kick is now a command normal in the air (F + HK).
- Old launcher kick is gone
- Has a tri-dash like Magneto.
- Has a new dive kick. Hits overhead. Heavy version is a fake out into a low.
- Can now do Energy Javelin in the air.
- Speed Tackle is gone. QCB + PP is Power of the Nova Force.
Spencer
- Air Grapple no longer OTGs
- Has new kick normals
- Move list is more or less the same. Still has his overhead.
- New grenade move. Tosses a grenade in the air, it lands and bounces back, then explodes. Good for incoming.
- Command grab is now performed by doing double down + kick. Can tag after command grab for combos.
- Bionic Arm has startup invincibility, but not as much as before.
**PART 2**
Hawkeye
- Zoning is still great.
- Forward Trick Shot is gone
- Upward Trick Shots are done with double down + Punches
- Air Throw xx Gimlet is still a thing.
- Gimlet now causes hard knockdown. Can tag after and continue combos.
- Electric Arrow is still good against projectiles
Thanos
- Oh boy. Balrog and Laura had a baby.
- Slow walk speed.
- Dash Straight causes a wall bounce.
- His projectile is like Laura's on crack. Starts off slow. He can punch it to send it forward, like Impact Palm. INSANE DURABILITY. Saw it eat at least 3 of Zero's projectiles while in Sougenmu.
- Has 4 way teleports.
- Has an air dash
- HITS LIKE A FREIGHT TRAIN LOADED WITH HIGH EXPLOSIVE.
**PART 3**
Captain America
- Still felt more or less the same, outside of his new moves
- Shield Slash is now used for mixups. I did stuff like SS xx Time Stone xx Backflip to cross up
- Didn't get to catch anyone with his parry.
- His DP and Hyper DP are done with a double down motion + Punches
The game is insanely fun and addictive. This is without question the most creative and free-form Marvel ever.
Got to talk to Damon Anderson, one of the eSports guys at Capcom, about the build. Apparently, the E3/CEO build is about 3 months outdated.
Game System
You will be tagging. A LOT. Both on offense and defense, either to press your offense, to create mixup situations, or to keep a move safe.
The post KO choppiness in the story demo is gone. The story demo is an even older build.
The game is very hectic and fluid. Nova and Ultron have tri-dashes on par with Magneto.
USE. YOUR. INFINITY. STONES.
Double down motions became second nature to me after a couple games.
Every character has a bunch of new normals. Some of the old normals in UMVC3 are command normals now. (Nova's slide, Spencer's j.S, etc.)
Characters can't be chip killed outside of Supers, like SF5.
Throws take away red life like in SFxT.
Didn't get to play every character, but here are the ones that I did get to try and/or see:
Nova
- Dolphin Kick is now a command normal in the air (F + HK).
- Old launcher kick is gone
- Has a tri-dash like Magneto.
- Has a new dive kick. Hits overhead. Heavy version is a fake out into a low.
- Can now do Energy Javelin in the air.
- Speed Tackle is gone. QCB + PP is Power of the Nova Force.
Spencer
- Air Grapple no longer OTGs
- Has new kick normals
- Move list is more or less the same. Still has his overhead.
- New grenade move. Tosses a grenade in the air, it lands and bounces back, then explodes. Good for incoming.
- Command grab is now performed by doing double down + kick. Can tag after command grab for combos.
- Bionic Arm has startup invincibility, but not as much as before.
**PART 2**
Hawkeye
- Zoning is still great.
- Forward Trick Shot is gone
- Upward Trick Shots are done with double down + Punches
- Air Throw xx Gimlet is still a thing.
- Gimlet now causes hard knockdown. Can tag after and continue combos.
- Electric Arrow is still good against projectiles
Thanos
- Oh boy. Balrog and Laura had a baby.
- Slow walk speed.
- Dash Straight causes a wall bounce.
- His projectile is like Laura's on crack. Starts off slow. He can punch it to send it forward, like Impact Palm. INSANE DURABILITY. Saw it eat at least 3 of Zero's projectiles while in Sougenmu.
- Has 4 way teleports.
- Has an air dash
- HITS LIKE A FREIGHT TRAIN LOADED WITH HIGH EXPLOSIVE.
**PART 3**
Captain America
- Still felt more or less the same, outside of his new moves
- Shield Slash is now used for mixups. I did stuff like SS xx Time Stone xx Backflip to cross up
- Didn't get to catch anyone with his parry.
- His DP and Hyper DP are done with a double down motion + Punches
Similarly unbelievable is only four women in the roster, especially with how hard Marvel Entertainment has been pushing the woke l whole "Women of Marvel" thing.
I'm also confident that the DLC's gonna be mostly male so the ratio is only going to get worse.
AWizardDidIt
Member
I can't imagine the comic side of marvel would be. They've been making large pushes for diversity and imo have benefited a lot from it. The new blood has really made for more interesting storylines when they aren't bogged down in tie-in event trash like Civil War 2
But the MCU movie side of marvel that is like 99% of Marvel's current day profits seems to be fine with it I guess.
Sales wise their preachy inclusiveness has done nothing but hurt sales
JeTmAn81
Member
If you're referring to that one Marvel guy's comments that their diversity initiative has hurt sales, I think that idea has been debunked
AWizardDidIt
Member
lol dude c'mon. That shit was debunked seconds after some rando marketing guy at Marvel said that.
Link to pretty in depth article on the matter. The problem with low sales isn't "preachy inclusiveness" it's the fact that Marvel's having trouble keeping consistent talent on series and they keep relaunching series or diluting them with cross overs and tie-ins. About half of Marvel's best selling titles are starring women or PoCs, including the relaunched woman versions of Thor, Iron Man, and Wolverine.
Doctrine Dark
Member
So it seems like mashing for additional damage is gone.
What's everyone's opinion on this? UMVC3's mashing just added extra damage, which was entirely different compared to its predecessors. In those games, mashing not only added extra damage, but it also extended the animations. For example, Nash's Sonic Break fully mashed allowed him to throw out a bunch of Sonic Booms and kick some as well. It also allowed you to escape out of certain things (Mags' Hyper Grav x Tempest, Iceman frozen throw, etc) as well.
People seem to dislike the idea of mashing for damage, but a lot of Marvel players I know loved it.
What's everyone's opinion on this? UMVC3's mashing just added extra damage, which was entirely different compared to its predecessors. In those games, mashing not only added extra damage, but it also extended the animations. For example, Nash's Sonic Break fully mashed allowed him to throw out a bunch of Sonic Booms and kick some as well. It also allowed you to escape out of certain things (Mags' Hyper Grav x Tempest, Iceman frozen throw, etc) as well.
People seem to dislike the idea of mashing for damage, but a lot of Marvel players I know loved it.
Good riddance.
this seems like a fact that people are missing because everyone is just playing the game like it's marvel 3 right now
and I'm really not sold on it. it's a HUGE change in the feel of the game.
bangbang i'm a timpani
Banned
wtf they're demoing versions of the game that are months old? that cant be everything
AWizardDidIt
Member
Mashing is fun the first few times but gets dull after a while. It should be kept out.
Doctrine Dark
Member
Same here.
I think the exact opposite. They can refine the models, plenty of studios do, but most never go back on their UI decisions, let alone a complete overhaul that people are asking for MvC:I.
It's already leagues ahead of UMvC3's, though. Not like MvC3's was good either, but it was clear.
They did. Combination of Story Demo screens and presumably VS build ones with the new characters.
Idk I kinda liked mashing for damage. It felt really satisfying
Demos are usually based on older builds.
Either way, don't expect all that much to change in 3 months.