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NHL Off-Season 2017 |OT| We’ve Been Here Since October

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Mentok

Banned
*Sees what's going on in Arizona
Wait....I've seen this movie before...I know who the REAL new owner of the Yotes is:

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excelsiorlef

Member
Socreges said:
Quick! Thank you for that

Because of the implication!


Malkin's also takes him to 35. Crosby at 8 years would have taken him to just 33. So yeah, would have been much higher. Cap circumvention was a thing that happened.

And re-signing always comes with a hit compared to free agency. And you have to take into account the team's circumstances if you want to stick around, so no doubt Malkin took a minimal hit.
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Sid and Geno are also both actuallly on their 3rd contracts

Both of their second contracts aka their first big contracts were 8.7 million cap hitz.

Soooo....

They have always taken discounts to allow room for a stronger team... and have 3 cups to show for it
 
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Mentok

Banned
megachao24 said:
But the Indians managed to stay anyway?
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Only because of the rag tags they managed to get on the field. I doubt Charlie Sheen would want to play for the Yotes.

EDIT: For the record, I don't think the new owner is wrong for getting rid of all he has, as much as the manner and timing in doing so.
 
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PillarEN

Member
I don't think Mike Smith and Shane Doan were the culprits behind the Coyotes being bottom tier for the last 5 years. I know that Doan is a 3rd liner now. Smith being traded is no biggie. Doan was dropped rather unceremoniously though considering his loyalty to the franchise. It was cold is all. Tippet not coming back isn't an issue if they are instilling a new play style and mentality. That's fine. I get that. Just the way Doan was shown the door was kinda, crappy.
 
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CosmicQueso

Member
Cake Boss said:
Tell me again why Arizona getting rid of a shit player, shit coach and a shit goalie is a terrible plan.
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It's not that they didn't renew Doan, it's how they did it.

Show a little respect to the face of your franchise for the last 20+ years. Meeting the guy at a coffee shop for 10 minutes to tell him this? Not letting Tipp be there?

And not one single person in the NHL would call Tipp a shit coach.
 
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HariKari

Member
CosmicQueso said:
It's not that they didn't renew Doan, it's how they did it.

Show a little respect to the face of your franchise for the last 20+ years. Meeting the guy at a coffee shop for 10 minutes to tell him this? Not letting Tipp be there?

And not one single person in the NHL would call Tipp a shit coach.
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Tipp is long past his expiration date

Doan was told before the Smith trade and treated like a professional.

Not sure what you want dude, but this is a great day for Coyotes fans
 
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HariKari

Member
Zombie James said:
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Yeah, you guys are in great shape.
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  1. no president/ceo is not new
  2. OEL is likely captain
  3. They will platoon cheap goalies, not overpay for a "#1"
  4. Haven't had a 1C in 20 years, I like Strome/Keller/Dvorak's odds. They don't grow on trees.
  5. Never had a prez of hockey ops

Craig Morgan is also a complete fucking hack. That, also, is not new.

The Coyotes were low key a trash organization run by a bunch of Canadian clowns that had set up a country club atmosphere. They gave Tippett an extension he never, ever earned. They torched every local relationship they touched. The marketing was downright embarrassing.

Barroway is cleaning house and keeping the good parts like Chayka. Even if he has to flip the team a year from now, this is a good week.
 
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Socreges

Banned
excelsiorlef said:
Sid and Geno are also both actuallly on their 3rd contracts

Both of their second contracts aka their first big contracts were 8.7 million cap hitz.

Soooo....

They have always taken discounts to allow room for a stronger team... and have 3 cups to show for it
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The sky is blue.

Soooo...

The sky is filled with 🐈s
 
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Socreges

Banned
excelsiorlef said:
I mean are you going to argue that the several million the Pens had extra because neither Crosby or Malkin took max contracts didn't help them afford key players in their two decent cup runs?
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I was more just poking fun of how you present arguments. You haven't really given any premises. Ask zroid for help.

And of course they didn't take max contracts. That was my re-signing point.
 
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excelsiorlef

Member
Socreges said:
I was more just poking fun of how you present arguments. You haven't really given any premises. Ask zroid for help.

And of course they didn't take max contracts. That was my re-signing point.
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McDavid would also be re-signing....

My argument is Crosby and Malkin took discounts... said discounts played a direct factor in winning cups.

And if you want to argue 8 years vs the 12 years.. use Geno: He signed under the 8 years and his hit is 9.5...all off 800k more than Crosby's 12 year.


McDavid wanting the full 14 million will make it harder to build a team around him.

I am now confused at what you are arguing.
 
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bonesmccoy

Banned
It's the NHL Christmas! Trades, back room deals, offer sheets! Non stop action from sunrise to sunset, brought to by Rogers Travel Anywhere Canada Plans.
 
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yyzjohn

Banned
lamaroo said:
The draft is today?

Holy shit what a difference not having Toronto in a lottery position.
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Whatever dude. All the Canadian teams were in the lottery last year so there was extra hype around the draft in Canada.

6 Canadian teams drafted in the top 10 last year....dam son. Only returning Canadian team in top 10 is Canucks.
 
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Cake Boss

Banned
Darren Dreger‏Verified account @DarrenDreger

All Canadian teams with exception of Ottawa are on Methot's no trade list and Ottawa can't get him back until after Jan 1...if interested.
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Good ole canadian boy ;)
 
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Solo

Member
I just want the AGally drama to be over. Either keep him or trade him, but don't drag it out all summer.

If BargainBin has half a brain though I think he'd realize that Drouin and AGally on a line together could be magic and should give it a chance.
 
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CosmicQueso

Member
HariKari said:
Not sure what you want dude, but this is a great day for Coyotes fans
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Sure, those future fans of whatever city the team is moving to.

I'm sure the phone is ringing off the hook for new season ticket holders and sponsors.

Everything is still a disaster in local politics around the team, the stadium deal is in complete limbo, the fan base that does exist continues to get smacked around... but sure, great day.
 
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yyzjohn

Banned
Solo said:
If BargainBin has half a brain though I think he'd realize that Drouin and AGally on a line together could be magic and should give it a chance.
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All we are saying....is give Drougaly a chance......all we are saying...is give Drougaly a chance...

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Red_Man

I Was There! Official L Receiver 2/12/2016
To recap what I heard from very credible sources last night - could be fireworks today. #Devils moving down for Makar, Vegas up for Patrick
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Today's gonna be another dud isn't it
 
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bonesmccoy

Banned
I don't see anything wrong with what the Coyotes have done recently. Doan obviously leveraged his status with the org/fan base in his last couple contract negotiations with the club. He's 'owed' jackshit.

His salt stinks of a guy who expected one more sweetheart contract.
 
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