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Valkyria Revolution review thread
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billythemule
Member
I expected it to be terrible so I suppose I was right. I still can't believe they went this route with the Valkyria series. It reminds me of Ragnarok 2, and how little in common it had with its predecessor.
Nope. Really janky combat with bad bosses and tons of copy-paste missions. Cutscene presentation that is impressively awful.
foolishoptimist
Member
So sad.
I've bought VC1 three times just for myself, and gave it as gifts back when it was hardly known on PS3. Also enjoyed the slightly inferior sequel.
The first one had such a great formula, all you need is a good story to build around and you'd have a sale.
I've bought VC1 three times just for myself, and gave it as gifts back when it was hardly known on PS3. Also enjoyed the slightly inferior sequel.
The first one had such a great formula, all you need is a good story to build around and you'd have a sale.
Sad that despite knowing the game was a bomb since the start i'm probably still buying it just to support japanese "japanese" games on Xbox anyway
That's probably why sega ported it in the first place - dangle it in our faces and say we only get the dessert after eating the shitty salad
That's probably why sega ported it in the first place - dangle it in our faces and say we only get the dessert after eating the shitty salad
This looked horrendous from day one, let's hope SEGA follows through on their bullshit that this was just an experiment and not the future of the series. I don't believe for one second they would have gone back to the SRPG format if this had done well. Thankfully it's going to bomb.
mrmickfran
Member
They could've just done an HD Collection of 2 & 3 instead, no one would've batted an eye.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
Nintendo made up for the federation force debacle at E3 this year...so maybe Sega wil get their heads out of their asses.
Doubt it though. This shit just shouldn't exist. Whoring a dead IP is never a good idea, doing so to make a shit game doesnt help.
Didnt work for xcom, metroid, and wasnt going to work here.
Doubt it though. This shit just shouldn't exist. Whoring a dead IP is never a good idea, doing so to make a shit game doesnt help.
Didnt work for xcom, metroid, and wasnt going to work here.
Vital Tundra
Member
THey had a good thing and they just shit on it.
What? Both new XCOM games besides being pretty good were well received. Are you sure you typed the right thing here?
Dark_castle
Junior Member
I still can't believe this turns out bad. Its made by people who were behind Wild Arms, and is a spin-off of critically acclaimed title.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
Xcom The Bureau Declassified. I'm not surprised you don't remember it. It was a garbage shooter that was announced well before Xcom enemy unknown was met with animosity due to reviving the IP to make a shooter instead of a strategy game. After multiple delays it came out a year after Enemy unknown released., was panned and forgotten.
TatteredHat
Member
I would have actually bought this.
I do remember it in fact, just didnt thought you were talking about it, my bad. Yeah it's not great indeed, but it's not awful either. Certainly not Federation Forces awful at least. And if i remember correctly Solomon stated that the game was very important in bringing back xcom name to the spotlight so they could make EW/X2 so its all good anyway
Banjo-Kazooie
Member
I'm with Toad here. It's easy and lazy to say Xbox owners don't care about Japanese games. Maybe *some* Xbox owners DO care about Japanese games, but when you give them Valkryia Azure Revolution instead of VC Remastered and then complain that Xbox owners don't like Japanese games when a critically panned game doesn't sell anything on the system, then you aren't making a good case.
Toad is saying if they would have gone with VC Remastered then they have a better shot of making a port of a game more worthwhile on Xbox. That's not to say it will sell anywhere near PS4, but if you are going to spend money porting a game, you mine as well port a game people may want MORE.
And by the way, Koch Media/Deep Silver are not sanctioning any port lol. The game is ported and published by SEGA. You think just because Koch picks up physical discs that they are paying for the game to be ported? No. They are funding its physical existence and have no relationship to its digital existence. SEGA is credited as the developer and publisher on the digital store page, media.vision isn't even mentioned
Community Forum
Member
Amazing SEGA
chrominance
Member
One of the weird side effects of Valkyria Revolution being awful is that everyone's now also shitting on The Bureau: XCOM Declassified, which seems a little unfair to me. There's no way The Bureau is as bad as this. It definitely had its issues, but I thought it was enjoyable. This just seems like a zombie game: everyone's got dead expressions and the combat looks mindless and dull.
NipplesAndToes23
Member
I had no idea that a new Valkyria game was coming out.
While we are talking venerable, acclaimed strategy games reimagined as unremarkable action games, can we add Front Mission Evolved to the list.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
I'm not actually sure if the bureau declassified is bad, just like I don't know if federation force is actually bad. My comment was more about how they were terrible ideas due to the state their franchises were in when announced and/or launched. Valkyria Revolution just so happened to be both a terrible idea and game.
Black Republican
Member
so apprently the music is very good?
damn.
add this to the list of flawed rpg games with great/amazing ost's i.e. Tales of Legendia
damn.
add this to the list of flawed rpg games with great/amazing ost's i.e. Tales of Legendia
So let me get this straight:
SEGA had a fantastic game in Valkyria Chronicles 1, and decided to shit on everything it got right, transformed into an action game and Otaku fanwank and decided to release it?
How thick are they for not recognizing the appeal of the grounded "anime" style that the first had, allied to the fantastic strategy gameplay?
SEGA had a fantastic game in Valkyria Chronicles 1, and decided to shit on everything it got right, transformed into an action game and Otaku fanwank and decided to release it?
How thick are they for not recognizing the appeal of the grounded "anime" style that the first had, allied to the fantastic strategy gameplay?
purseowner
Member
'A new Valkyria game' isn't coming out.
Frozenprince
Banned
The reveal screenshots looked meh but even those are better quality than anything you get from this. It's art direction is all over the place (waifus) and they never settle in anything g resembling coherent thought behind it. Which, okay, fine. It looks dumb and sounds dumb (sound design is rull bad) but if it plays passably it's worth it cause I got it for free.
Holy shit the AI is probably in the bottom five worst AI I've ever played with or against and I've been playing video games for 30 years.
It's absurd how bad it is and how trivial it make the ENTIRE game as a result. The action bits are utterly trivialized, because it tries to ve this bastard hybrid of so many things and slaps a tactical strategy element on everything when most if the game is you swatting enemies aside like flies.
It's just not fun to play. Lifeless is the most apt descriptor of the 30 or so hours I slogged along on my vita before I went no mas.
Holy shit the AI is probably in the bottom five worst AI I've ever played with or against and I've been playing video games for 30 years.
It's absurd how bad it is and how trivial it make the ENTIRE game as a result. The action bits are utterly trivialized, because it tries to ve this bastard hybrid of so many things and slaps a tactical strategy element on everything when most if the game is you swatting enemies aside like flies.
It's just not fun to play. Lifeless is the most apt descriptor of the 30 or so hours I slogged along on my vita before I went no mas.
Despite it's cult status, the original bombed pretty hard at release.
Sega has tried various things with the franchise, but it looks like focusing on the japanese market didn't help the series much. With the sequels or with this action spin off.
tbf. I'm not sure there's a place for high budget tactics games on consoles. Seems pretty much all of them bomb or are low budget enough that they don't need to sell much.
thekiddfran
Member
They should have stuck to the original formula
Now the franchise is finished
Now the franchise is finished
chrominance
Member
Oh. Fair, though The Bureau is especially weird in that it was announced first, and then had its lunch eaten by the XCOM game people actually wanted.
As long as we're collecting unfortunate offshoots of venerable franchises: the EA Syndicate shooter. I liked it enough for what it was but boy did people not want it.
I am amazed it's getting scores of around 5/10, a score that should be given to average games. This is not an average game, it's boring as sin.
There is a 6/10 review for this game that states: "Players need to wade through too much dull story and repetitive combat to get a glimpse of Valkyria Revolution's redeeming qualities, and the trade off isn't worth it". That does not sound like a decent, above average game to me.
It would be nice to see game critics who use a 10 point scale one day use the whole scale.
There is a 6/10 review for this game that states: "Players need to wade through too much dull story and repetitive combat to get a glimpse of Valkyria Revolution's redeeming qualities, and the trade off isn't worth it". That does not sound like a decent, above average game to me.
It would be nice to see game critics who use a 10 point scale one day use the whole scale.
Eh, it didn't really bomb. It cleared over a million copies on PS3 alone.
As I mentioned earlier, this was in production before the Steam release of the original. Whatever effect that has had is yet to be seen.
That said, I really think they shouldn't have localised it. At the very least, they didn't bring it to PC, where it could have really damaged the new audience.
Sigh...I feel like there's so many missteps with this game in Sega's effort to revive Valkyria. The Steam version of Valkyria Chronicles (and the remaster on consoles to a degree) did a good job in reviving interest in the series, so they go and make...this? It's a really bizarre decision to the point where making a mobile game would have even been more logical.
chrominance
Member
The problem was most of those were sold after Sega dropped the price substantially. It's hard to tell if the game was just a slow burn at retail or (more likely) if the game needed its lower price point to move copies.
*Not unexpected, considering how it got a lukewarm reception even in Japan.
Probably not the end of the series at large, though. There's been enough distancing of Revolution as a sub-series that won't determine the future of VC that I would like to believe SEGA understands they mis-read the market.
*EDIT: Missed the "not" bit.
Probably not the end of the series at large, though. There's been enough distancing of Revolution as a sub-series that won't determine the future of VC that I would like to believe SEGA understands they mis-read the market.
*EDIT: Missed the "not" bit.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I've not kept up with this game and the only one time I asked on GAF, I was told this is a quick cash-grab to capitalize on Valkyrie Chronicle's good will from the Steam port.
Does this have anything to do with the OG Valkyrie series ? or did they just slap the name on a mediocre game ?
Does this have anything to do with the OG Valkyrie series ? or did they just slap the name on a mediocre game ?
Whoever told you that is wrong, because that game started development just before VC came to Steam iirc.
It's basically a spin-off/parallel series.
QuackkAttack
Member
Think of it like a spinoff to the series. Nothing in the original series happened. Everyone can use magic, not just the Valkyrie's.
It uses similar ideas and terminology, but no connections.
Grim Patron
Member
James Scott
Banned
Shouldn't be shocking to those that played the Japanese demo.
Completely shocked SEGA released this...well, I'm not too shocked after all those Sonic games
Completely shocked SEGA released this...well, I'm not too shocked after all those Sonic games
killatopak
Member
The dream is dead.
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