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Marvel Vs. Capcom: Infinite Characters and Stages Roster |DT2| oh dear...

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JAXXX

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Nah RyanLV has this easy.

I don't know about easy... but that's who my money is on.
I am also rooting for him.
Ironically Fchamp is cutting back on SFV and wants to seriously train for UMVC3 at Evo. RyanLV has ChrisG's Number IMO but a trained up Champ, maybe a problem.
Also Cloud beats RyanLV free, if he still plays.

KaneBlueriver isnt going to Evo and Viscant hasn't been relevant in UMVC3, so Justin, Flocker, ChrisG and FChamp are really our potential repeat champion options.
 

Sesha

Member
I made a bunch of lists tallying confirmed characters and unconfirmed characters, and made lists of names per game. Probably useless, but hey:

Confirmed character's franchise debut:

Capcom characters - top
Marvel characters - bottom

X-Men vs. Street Fighter:


  • Chun-Li
  • Ryu
Marvel Superheroes vs. Street Fighter:


  • Captain America
  • Hulk
  • Spider-Man
Marvel vs. Capcom:

  • Morrigan
  • Strider
Marvel vs. Capcom 2:


  • Iron Man
  • Thanos
Marvel vs. Capcom 3:


  • Arthur
  • Chris Redfield
  • Dante
  • Nathan Spencer
  • Zero

  • Thor
Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3:


  • Firebrand

  • Doctor Strange
  • Hawkeye
  • Nova
  • Rocket Raccoon

UMvC3 characters not confirmed / not returning:

X-Men vs. SF:


  • Akuma
  • Storm
  • Magneto
  • Wolverine
MSH vs. SF:


  • Spider-Man (A lock-in. He’s fricking Spider-Man)
MvC:


  • Venom (rumored)
MvC 2:


  • Felicia
  • Jill Valentine
  • Tron Bonne

  • Dr. Doom
  • Sentinel
MvC3:


  • Albert Wesker
  • Amaterasu
  • C. Viper
  • Hsien-Ko
  • Mike Haggar (rumored)
  • Trish
  • Viewtiful Joe

  • Deadpool
  • Dormammu (rumored)
  • MODOK
  • Phoenix
  • She-Hulk
  • Super-Skrull
  • Taskmaster
  • X-23
UMvC3:


  • Frank West (rumored)
  • Nemesis (rumored)
  • Phoenix Wright
  • Vergil

  • Ghost Rider (rumored)
  • Iron Fist

Number of confirmed returning characters per game:


  • XvSF: 2
  • MSH vs. SF: 5
  • MvC: 7
  • MvC2: 9
  • MvC3: 15
  • UMvC3: 20
Number of UMvC3 characters not confirmed / not returning


  • XvSF: 4
  • MSHvSF: 1
  • MvC: 1
  • MvC2: 5
  • MvC3: 26
  • UMvC3: 32
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- Less than half of the MvC3 roster (15/38) and half of the UMvC3 roster (20/52) is confirmed.
- Only Capcom characters are confirm to return from X-Men vs. Street Fighter (Ryu and Chun-Li).
- Out of the fifteen MvC3 newcomers, only six are confirmed to return.
- Of the twelve UMvC3 newcomers, counting rumored characters, half of the Capcom debutants and all but one of the Marvel debutants (Iron Fist) will return.
 

Blueblur1

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Ah yes, do tell us how we should hate Capcom more neonep, please.

The FGC at large doesn't seem to know how video game development works or even how businesses are run. There's only a small handful of folks who aren't developers but know enough/have enough insight that are worth listening to such as UltraDavid and James Chen. I think Bornfree knows a thing or two as well especially since he used to work in marketing. But not Velociraptor though. He's made enough bone-headed comments on Best of III and Best of V shows for me not to trust his judgement. (Also there's Event Hubs...)
 

SnakeEyez

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The FGC at large doesn't seem to know how video game development works or even how businesses are run. There's only a small handful of folks who aren't developers but know enough/have enough insight that are worth listening to such as UltraDavid and James Chen. I think Bornfree knows a thing or two as well especially since he used to work in marketing. But not Velociraptor though. He's made enough bone-headed comments on Best of III and Best of V shows for me not to trust his judgement. (Also there's Event Hubs...)

Can someone explain to me why everyone, for the most part, dislike or have negative things to say about eventhubs? Commonly called Event Scrubs?
 

IntelliHeath

As in "Heathcliff"
Doom? Yeah he was made a playable character in Marvel heroes a few years ago. I saw videos of him being playable. That's why he has a costume for Future Foundation getting removed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=620B5qued60

Unless you mean he isn't NOW, which I didn't see mentioned

Hmm. I was mistaken to on that. So I guess he's going to remain playable for the game. I wonder if it's going to be same thing for him in MVCI?
 

Dahbomb

Member
Can someone explain to me why everyone, for the most part, dislike or have negative things to say about eventhubs? Commonly called Event Scrubs?
Eventhubs generally makes articles that are super click bait. Like they will put up some random unconfirmed rumor with no real basis or just random opinion pieces/polls/tiers/tweets to get activity.

But you can't hate the hustle.
 
Hmm. I was mistaken to on that. So I guess he's going to remain playable for the game. I wonder if it's going to be same thing for him in MVCI?

If we were getting an updated UMvC3, then I'd say there would be hope for Doom, since he's already there. MvCI is a new game though, and has to deal with updated licensing issues. To give a recent example: LEGO Marvel Super Heroes was free to have everyone, while LEGO Avengers couldn't have the X-Men/F4 characters.

Did Ryce really explicitly say we're getting F4 characters? I'd like to get an updated word on that.
 
If we were getting an updated UMvC3, then I'd say there would be hope for Doom, since he's already there. MvCI is a new game though, and has to deal with updated licensing issues. To give a recent example: LEGO Marvel Super Heroes was free to have everyone, while LEGO Avengers couldn't have the X-Men/F4 characters.

Did Ryce really explicitly say we're getting F4 characters? I'd like to get an updated word on that.

In December he did. He said it was a "done deal" I'll have to find the post
 

J-Tier

Member
All I really need is Doom honestly.

Only other F4 character I'm a big fan of is Annihilus, and he's got close to 0 chance of ever making it into any game.

Mole Man is cool. Silver Surfer is alright. The first family is alright
for trash
. Galacta is trash tier.
 

Nyoro SF

Member
EDIT: I agree that the vast majority of GAF has no idea how businesses work. Especially websites/channels(twitch, youtube). Witness all the people pointing at the boogeyman of "outsourcing", not realizing that every HD game ever made usually has tons of outsourcing or temporary contractors hired to help finish them.

Can someone explain to me why everyone, for the most part, dislike or have negative things to say about eventhubs? Commonly called Event Scrubs?

Yo Snake, love your Gief.

As far as that scrubs nickname It's pretty rare to see that on Twitter nowadays, but yeah you hear eventscrubs occasionally. Usually it's called that because the comment sections have a lot of, uh, fighting game deplorables. The site is more like a very invested fan site than an official news site, an easy comparison that comes to mind is Bleacher Report vs. ESPN.

I find it amusing that the most vocal people who hate the site tend to be the ones that link to it and/or discuss it quite often though.
 

Ryce

Member
I haven't heard anything about the Fox characters in six months. I can only assume they're still on the cards, but obviously with the Marvel Heroes Fantastic Four fiasco anything can happen.
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
I haven't heard anything about the Fox characters in six months. I can only assume they're still on the cards, but obviously with the Marvel Heroes Fantastic Four fiasco anything can happen.
So it's possible that Marvel may have shut down Capcom's plans to add Doctor Doom/Super-Skrull/Silver Surfer/etc. via DLC recently?
 

Ryce

Member
The worst thing EventHubs does is milk a single interview out into several articles just to fulfill an obvious content quota. I'm not even talking exclusive interviews -- they'll take a month old IGN interview and turn each statement into a separate article over the course of a few weeks.
 

IntelliHeath

As in "Heathcliff"
I wonder if something happened with Constantin Films that made Disney go hard on the FF ban.

There is a rumor that Fox and Constatin is going to reboot F4 once again, and trying to make Spy Kid-style F4 movie. The rumor broke out like yesterday like 12 hours before the announcement of F4 removal for Marvel Heroes.
 

Dahbomb

Member
The worst thing EventHubs does is milk a single interview out into several articles just to fulfill an obvious content quota. I'm not even talking exclusive interviews -- they'll take a month old IGN interview and turn each statement into a separate article over the course of a few weeks.
They did that with the Combofiend Yipes breakdown too, split it up into like 10 parts LOl!

Squeeze that CPM!
 

IntelliHeath

As in "Heathcliff"
I made a bunch of lists tallying confirmed characters and unconfirmed characters, and made lists of names per game. Probably useless, but hey:

Good job. It was pretty cool to read those information. I found it hilarious that they almost brought everyone from UMVC3 additions. I think it's high likely that we might get all three via DLC.

All I really need is Doom honestly.

Only other F4 character I'm a big fan of is Annihilus, and he's got close to 0 chance of ever making it into any game.

Mole Man is cool. Silver Surfer is alright. The first family is alright
for trash
. Galacta is trash tier.

I would love it if Super Skrull come back since he was fun to play with.
 

SnakeEyez

Member
EDIT: I agree that the vast majority of GAF has no idea how businesses work. Especially websites/channels(twitch, youtube). Witness all the people pointing at the boogeyman of "outsourcing", not realizing that every HD game ever made usually has tons of outsourcing or temporary contractors hired to help finish them.



Yo Snake, love your Gief.

As far as that scrubs nickname It's pretty rare to see that on Twitter nowadays, but yeah you hear eventscrubs occasionally. Usually it's called that because the comment sections have a lot of, uh, fighting game deplorables. The site is more like a very invested fan site than an official news site, an easy comparison that comes to mind is Bleacher Report vs. ESPN.

I find it amusing that the most vocal people who hate the site tend to be the ones that link to it and/or discuss it quite often though.

Congrats on winning CEO!


Ugh I'm not Darryl...I hate my handle, I get that all the time, especially in the sfiv PS3 days (my PSN is the same). That was my handle long before I knew about him.I wish I could change my PSN...
 
Can someone explain to me why everyone, for the most part, dislike or have negative things to say about eventhubs? Commonly called Event Scrubs?

Eventhubs is like the TMZ of fighting game news. :p

Also, didn't know you're on Gaf, SnakeEyez! I don't care about SF all that much but I really dig your Zangief. You and the good Birdie players are the only things that keep SFV vaguely interesting to me.

Edit:
Ugh I'm not Darryl...I hate my handle, I get that all the time, especially in the sfiv PS3 days (my PSN is the same). That was my handle long before I knew about him.I wish I could change my PSN...

Well damn, that settles that lol
 

Nyoro SF

Member
Ugh I'm not Darryl...I hate my handle, I get that all the time, especially in the sfiv PS3 days (my PSN is the same). That was my handle long before I knew about him.I wish I could change my PSN...

You can PM a mod to request a tag change, go ahead and give Shouta a message and I'm sure he'll understand.
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
oh Snake won CEO? I missed Gief winning CEO? Fuck...

O quit yet cryin at least you can change your handle

Bronson Tran stole my name! And all the fighting game talent!

did he steal your good looks aswell?

im saying u ugly Bronson.
 

sinkfla87

Member
Everyone should have not acknowledged his post saying he isn't Daryl and just kept congratulating him lol. Keep that running joke going for the next year. Sorry Snake! :p
 

JeTmAn81

Member
Ugh I'm not Darryl...I hate my handle, I get that all the time, especially in the sfiv PS3 days (my PSN is the same). That was my handle long before I knew about him.I wish I could change my PSN...

Quit kidding around, Snake. Also, play Akuma more, he's my favorite!
 

I feel what he's saying, and he's makes a good point about how the legacy isn't being preserved with the roster decisions but man, personally, after playing and watching it, I just don't give a fuck anymore. Maybe it's the time heals all wounds kinda thing, or maybe I've just accepted it. But I'm in it for the gameplay. Not everyone will be, and that's fine, but the gems system altering characters has my mouth watering.

Marvel is being dumb, Capcom is being dumb (c'mon gimme some better characters fam), but at the end of the day, I can take some disappointment as long as the game is fun.
 

Jawmuncher

Member
I feel what he's saying, and he's makes a good point about how the legacy isn't being preserved with the roster decisions but man, personally, after playing and watching it, I just don't give a fuck anymore. Maybe it's the time heals all wounds kinda thing, or maybe I've just accepted it. But I'm in it for the gameplay. Not everyone will be, and that's fine, but the gems system altering characters has my mouth watering.

Marvel is being dumb, Capcom is being dumb (c'mon gimme some better characters fam), but at the end of the day, I can take some disappointment as long as the game is fun.

Yeah that stuff will never save a fighting game for me. I'm more there to play with friends and the crossover aspect. At best I get to a medium level if I keep at it. So good gameplay with weak characters won't do much for me.
 

rocK`

Banned
I feel what he's saying, and he's makes a good point about how the legacy isn't being preserved with the roster decisions but man, personally, after playing and watching it, I just don't give a fuck anymore. Maybe it's the time heals all wounds kinda thing, or maybe I've just accepted it. But I'm in it for the gameplay. Not everyone will be, and that's fine, but the gems system altering characters has my mouth watering.

Marvel is being dumb, Capcom is being dumb (c'mon gimme some better characters fam), but at the end of the day, I can take some disappointment as long as the game is fun.

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time heals that? hmm :)
 

kirblar

Member
This stuff's a good read regarding the reason Combo accidentally screwed up w/ the "Function" talk -

http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/making-magic/timmy-johnny-and-spike-2002-03-08

http://magic.wizards.com/en/article...timmy-johnny-and-spike-revisited-2006-03-20-2

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PlayerArchetypes

Combo's a hyper-competitive player, so him seeing characters in terms of toolsets is normal, but that's not how most people see the game.
 

Lulubop

Member
I feel what he's saying, and he's makes a good point about how the legacy isn't being preserved with the roster decisions but man, personally, after playing and watching it, I just don't give a fuck anymore. Maybe it's the time heals all wounds kinda thing, or maybe I've just accepted it. But I'm in it for the gameplay. Not everyone will be, and that's fine, but the gems system altering characters has my mouth watering.

Marvel is being dumb, Capcom is being dumb (c'mon gimme some better characters fam), but at the end of the day, I can take some disappointment as long as the game is fun.

If that imgur leak is true, it's my favorite roster tbqh. I understand I'm in the minority however.
 

IntelliHeath

As in "Heathcliff"
Still weird that they didn't add Thor until MvC3

He was in MVC1 as an assist but I'm glad he finally became playable character.

This stuff's a good read regarding the reason Combo accidentally screwed up w/ the "Function" talk -

http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/making-magic/timmy-johnny-and-spike-2002-03-08

http://magic.wizards.com/en/article...timmy-johnny-and-spike-revisited-2006-03-20-2

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PlayerArchetypes

Combo's a hyper-competitive player, so him seeing characters in terms of toolsets is normal, but that's not how most people see the game.

Yup. Pretty much.
 
You know it's gonna be a real Real Talk when he isn't looping Nova's theme for 20 minutes.

This! lol Im watching it now...

You know how you low key feel some type of way about something, then hear someone speak the same way how you feel, so now its 2x worse and your like "yeah... fuck it"

Thats what this max vid has done for me.

EDIT: Its good to see im also not the only one hoping for 2v2 4player tag. This is literally a game mode that would make me pick this game up.
 

Dahbomb

Member
Not even Combofiend himself believes what he is saying. He himself is totally a "Johnny" player, he plays what he think looks cool or feels good rather than what's necessarily toppity top tier function wise.
 
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