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"The next Xbox is already being designed" Senior Editor of WC says.

Ghost_Messiah

Ghost_Messiah

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Echoing everyone else with "no shit" - it's common knowledge that new consoles are always being worked on, sometimes as early as the launch of the original machine (so in this case, it'd be the launch of the Xbox One).

El_Chino said:
A Matrick-less next Gen Xbox should be a thing to behold.

Like the OG Xbox and the Xbox 360.
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God I hope you're right. MS' legacy consoles had a hardcore focus, and sold extremely well as a result (well, the 360 did). Sony proved with the PS4 this is the direction to go, so hopefully MS returns to its roots and produces a hardcore monster that conquers worlds - with amazing games.

Used to be a hardcore Xbox fan but lost interest with the One. Hoping MS can bring me back with their next machine.
 
Liliana Eileen

Liliana Eileen

Member
Should be added to OP - apparently the neXtbox has a code name according to Jez (read comments on twitter in the OP).

imho the code name can never one-up Scorpio
 
graywolf323

graywolf323

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bigjig said:
But how is MS ever going to build up its first party software lineup when all they do is concentrate on hardware!?
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lol, this is better than what I was going to post along those lines

also people missing the joke coming from the threads about where are the first party games back at E3
 
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Blastoise

Banned
R&D teams don't just sit on their asses. Their entire job is to move onto the next product after a product design is finalised.

I bet some people in Nintendo are working on the New Switch design, and some people are working on the Switch 2. It makes complete sense if you're spending money on R&D and want to continue releasing products in the future.
 
Liliana Eileen

Liliana Eileen

Member
Blastoise said:
R&D teams don't just sit on their asses. Their entire job is to move onto the next product after a product design is finalised.

I bet some people in Nintendo are working on the New Switch design, and some people are working on the Switch 2. It makes complete sense if you're spending money on R&D and want to continue releasing products in the future.
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Agreed, but the narrative for a long time was that this is Microsofts last Xbox, and woe is Xbox, etc, etc.

The fact that they're spending money on R&D with a new model debunks quite a bit of fud that spread around.
 
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Blastoise

Banned
The only time I heard that narrative was in 2013 when every journo was saying that console gaming is dead. Even with the mishap of the original Xbone. MS corrected the ship and are fully back in the game so to speak.

I think the big strategy for MS in the future is to make their console into a windows machine. So that they get their cut on PC software as well.

I think MS is in a good place now, and we will defo see another xbox product from them.
 
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onQ123

Member
Of course it is they are now on a never ending cycle until something goes wrong or Dell & other companies step in & take over the hardware side of making the multimedia computers.

Dell & other companies will bite at some point.
 
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Herp Derpington

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I'd be curious to see what exactly they have in mind. Someone posted in another thread that a PS5 is really just more advanced PS4/Pro assuming they stick to x86 and AMD. We're to the point where these really are just iterative consoles and I'm not so sure making a break with software is the right choice.

With so few models to develop for why can't they make one game and have it scale up and down? PC does it very well and these are de facto PC's so what's the point in locking out people with older machines? Most will migrate to new hardware but you reward your customers by ensuring compatibility for years. Sure at some point there might need to be a clean break as apple does with their phones but it just makes sense to me to market the platform and allow people to move up when they want but not lock them out of software.

Maybe I'm looking at it wrong and I'm sure there are details I don't fully understand but it seems the " don't wanna forever have to develope for the lowest common denominator" spiel people put forth doesn't pass the mustard in the face of a platform that has shown cross generational compatibility is perfectly viable: PC.
 
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JoeLT

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Xbox One S2, calling it. Followed by the X2, S3, X3, and so on. With them going with a smartphone similar model it only makes sense.
 
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Matt

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Liliana Eileen said:
Agreed, but the narrative for a long time was that this is Microsofts last Xbox, and woe is Xbox, etc, etc.

The fact that they're spending money on R&D with a new model debunks quite a bit of fud that spread around.
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Well, not really.

They are in this business now, and they will plan for the future as a result. That is unrelated to any potential future strategy changes.
 
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Inuhanyou

Believes Dragon Quest is a franchise managed by Sony
Herp Derpington said:
I'd be curious to see what exactly they have in mind. Someone posted in another thread that a PS5 is really just more advanced PS4/Pro assuming they stick to x86 and AMD. We're to the point where these really are just iterative consoles and I'm not so sure making a break with software is the right choice.

With so few models to develop for why can't they make one game and have it scale up and down? .
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That's what Pro and XB1X are right now and by default, the appeal of such a thing is niche.

That doesn't sell units, and it doesn't reinvigorate the console consumer base when stagnation starts to set in. Thats the entire point of generational cycles in addition to unshackling developers.

In the first place, even PC's don't stay on the same general requirements for games indefinitely, they use consoles to decide when to take the next major step through the generational model
 
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Ehker

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Liliana Eileen said:
Agreed, but the narrative for a long time was that this is Microsofts last Xbox, and woe is Xbox, etc, etc.

The fact that they're spending money on R&D with a new model debunks quite a bit of fud that spread around.
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We heard MS was giving up generations, meaning every new box would be compatible with the one before. Not sure where you heard a narrative a long time ago how there wouldn't be more.
 
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gogosox82

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This doesn't really strike me as news. Its common knowledge that consoles are constantly being worked on by R and D teams.
 
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Inuhanyou

Believes Dragon Quest is a franchise managed by Sony
Ehker said:
We heard MS was giving up generations, meaning every new box would be compatible with the one before. Not sure where you heard otherwise.
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When sony comes out with a PS5, there is no way MS can force the industry to continue to support XB1 and Scorpio and indefinitely tie their games down. they know that, which is why they are focused on a new machine .

Backwards compatibility yes, forwards compatibility no
 
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JaggedSac

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Herp Derpington

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Inuhanyou said:
That's what Pro and XB1X are right now and by default, the appeal of such a thing is niche.

That doesn't sell units, and it doesn't reinvigorate the console consumer base when stagnation starts to set in. Thats the entire point of generational cycles in addition to unshackling developers.

In the first place, even PC's don't stay on the same general requirements for games indefinitely, they use consoles to decide when to take the next major step through the generational model
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I'd agree if it weren't for the fact that graphics cards have no problem reinvigorating their audience. New phones don't have a problem reinvigorating their audience. They are all up and down compatible. I'm still not seeing a definitive "this is why we need gens" aside from people's experience with the traditional separate gen model leading them to form certain opinions or make certain assumptions.

I think in the case of the Pro this was the first console to do this and I'm sure Sony didn't want to risk alienating their audience but with the X coming I can't help but think they'll have to be more aggressive in marketing it and evangelizing to their developers on why they need to support it and why the iterative model is beneficial to them. Heck these studios already develope for PC so they aren't unfamiliar with the process.
 
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Alchemy

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I mean Nintendo is probably working on the Switch successor in some way as well, hardware development is a long drawn out process that ramps up and down and has a lot of iterations and prototypes that might end up going no where. Hardware companies never really stop working on stuff.
 
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Ehker

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Inuhanyou said:
When sony comes out with a PS5, there is no way MS can force the industry to continue to support XB1 and Scorpio and indefinitely tie their games down. they know that, which is why they are focused on a new machine .

Backwards compatibility yes, forwards compatibility no
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I agree. If new hardware really pushes games, it won't be generationless.
 
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