Wag
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Sooner cinemas die the better.
The day when I can have an IMAX theater in my home is when I'll be OK with this.
Sooner cinemas die the better.
Releasing a movie in theaters does not stop it from eventually releasing for streaming.
Whereas going streaming first pretty much kills off that movies ability for a theatrical run.
I'm confused as to what kind of theaters some of you guys are going to that you rather have the experience just die off completely. I love going to the cinemas to see a spectacle on a huge screen with amazing sound. Seeing a film like Interstellar at home for the first time just doesn't compare.
I mean, most movies are forgotten after about three weeks in theaters, so the gap isn't too large there. We just aren't bombarded by advertisements of Netflix movies like we are with theatrical releases.
Netflix is giving theaters an objectively raw deal that would be completely poisonous to the cinemas. Theater real estate isn't free. Having screens set aside for a film that is drawing a segment of the total audience turns it into a bad investment for the theater operator.And theaters can show those films if they want to. It's just that theaters think no one will bother paying for the theater experience if they can watch it at home. And if theaters don't value their own product, why should consumers?
So do I, and I literally went to the movies last night to see the new Planet of the Apes film.I don't have time to go to a movie. I work.
Releasing a movie in theaters does not stop it from eventually releasing for streaming.
Whereas going streaming first pretty much kills off that movies ability for a theatrical run.
People calling Nolan an old man are acting like hes saying movies shouldebe streamed. This is not analogous to the horse salesman yelling at a car salesman that is being quoted.
That analogy would only fit if Nolan was saying films should only come out on physical formats and never be streamed.
Not my experience. Here in The Netherlands even very small films usually get a pretty sizeable run. Sure, the big cinemas like the Pathé will drop films if they're not successful after two weeks or so, but in the smaller local theaters these films run for ages and keep drawing people to these films.
Did just over $4mil domestically, certainly not a barn burner. (Although internationally it did modest numbers)
Releasing a movie in theaters does not stop it from eventually releasing for streaming.
Whereas going streaming first pretty much kills off that movies ability for a theatrical run (and beyond that they just aren't generally releasing to theaters
.)
People calling Nolan an old man are acting like hes saying movies shouldnt be streamed. This is not analogous to the horse salesman yelling at a car salesman that is being quoted.
That analogy would only fit if Nolan was saying films should only come out on physical formats and never be streamed.
The other way to look at this is he wants your money because he wants to make movies with large budgets and Netflix's model would not pay for a movie like Dunkirk.Nolan is basically going for the double-dips.
1. Make people buy a ticket first when it's only available in theaters for a while.
2. Then see if they will buy it again on DVD/BD/digital/stream when it's no longer in theaters.
He doesn't care about the comfort of your own home or the atmosphere of a grandiose theater experience. He wants your money in the comfort of his own wallet.
There's nothing wrong with a theater, but it does suck you don't have the option to choose one or the other right off the bat.
In the end, it's all about $$$$.
Nolan is basically going for the double-dips.
1. Make people buy a ticket first when it's only available in theaters for a while.
2. Then see if they will buy it again on DVD/BD/digital/stream when it's no longer in theaters.
He doesn't care about the comfort of your own home or the atmosphere of a grandiose theater experience. He wants your money in the comfort of his own wallet.
There's nothing wrong with a theater, but it does suck you don't have the option to choose one or the other right off the bat.
In the end, it's all about $$$$.
Nolan turned down 3D conversions for his films because he thought it harmed their quality. In other words, he turned down a free 20% bonus to box office revenue because he didn't like what it did to the product.
Nolan turned down 3D conversions for his films because he thought it harmed their quality. In other words, he turned down a free 20% bonus to box office revenue because he didn't like what it did to the product.Nolan is basically going for the double-dips.
1. Make people buy a ticket first when it's only available in theaters for a while.
2. Then see if they will buy it again on DVD/BD/digital/stream when it's no longer in theaters.
He doesn't care about the comfort of your own home or the atmosphere of a grandiose theater experience. He wants your money in the comfort of his own wallet.
There's nothing wrong with a theater, but it does suck you don't have the option to choose one or the other right off the bat.
In the end, it's all about $$$$.
Some people here live in a small town with only one theater with the same annoying kid?
Or are they just outing themselves as the complaining fuck that just cause there is a group of teens in the theater the movie is runied forever?
The experience at the theater is nothing compared to home experience.
The other way to look at this is he wants your money because he wants to make movies with large budgets and Netflix's model would not pay for a movie like Dunkirk.
Releasing a movie in theaters does not stop it from eventually releasing for streaming.
Whereas going streaming first pretty much kills off that movies ability for a theatrical run (and beyond that they just aren't generally releasing to theaters
.)
People calling Nolan an old man are acting like hes saying movies shouldnt be streamed. This is not analogous to the horse salesman yelling at a car salesman that is being quoted.
That analogy would only fit if Nolan was saying films should only come out on physical formats and never be streamed.
Nolan turned down 3D conversions for his films because he thought it harmed their quality. In other words, he turned down a free 20% bonus to box office revenue because he didn't like what it did to the product.
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He doesn't care about the comfort of your own home or the atmosphere of a grandiose theater experience. He wants your money in the comfort of his own wallet.
Netflix is giving theaters an objectively raw deal that would be completely poisonous to the cinemas. Theater real estate isn't free. Having screens set aside for a film that is drawing a segment of the total audience turns it into a bad investment for the theater operator.
Netflix is the one being irrational here. They're giving up guaranteed theatrical revenue for these films, because they can't stomach even a short exclusivity window. They just need to ensure enough people actually come to them so the theaters aren't wasting money on the deal.
Nolan is basically going for the double-dips.
1. Make people buy a ticket first when it's only available in theaters for a while.
2. Then see if they will buy it again on DVD/BD/digital/stream when it's no longer in theaters.
He doesn't care about the comfort of your own home or the atmosphere of a grandiose theater experience. He wants your money in the comfort of his own wallet.
There's nothing wrong with a theater, but it does suck you don't have the option to choose one or the other right off the bat.
In the end, it's all about $$$$.
The fact is that the world is changing and the cinemas just don't want to. As has been said if the product really was good enough it would not be a problem to show the film in theaters at the same time it goes to streaming.
How can you say with certainty the opposite, though? People like to go outside and do things. Going to the cinema is like going to a party or a public event. It's exciting and fun.
Netflix is giving theaters an objectively raw deal that would be completely poisonous to the cinemas. Theater real estate isn't free. Having screens set aside for a film that is drawing a segment of the total audience turns it into a bad investment for the theater operator.
Netflix is the one being irrational here. They're giving up guaranteed theatrical revenue for these films, because they can't stomach even a short exclusivity window. They just need to ensure enough people actually come to them so the theaters aren't wasting money on the deal.
What exactly do you think would cause them to be good enough for people not to just stream?
Yes, the business model depends on exclusivity. But that doesn't mean there's some new model that wouldn't. If anything theaters would have to raise ticket prices and spend less money on projection hardware... but.. then even less people would go.
Name a few things you think cinemas could change?
What exactly do you think would cause them to be good enough for people not to just stream?
Yes, the business model depends on exclusivity. But that doesn't mean there's some new model that wouldn't. If anything theaters would have to raise ticket prices and spend less money on projection hardware... but.. then even less people would go.
Name a few things you think cinemas could change?
Legit movie theatre butter isn't even butter
Yup Nolan is all about the theater experience, doing whatever he can with the budgets he can afford right now. The money is almost secondary to him, it's just something that he likes, because it means do whatever he wants, like any good director would.
family of 4, 4 movies per month... 4*4*6*12 = 1152 dollars per year. There goes a nice big 4k HDR TV plus a decent sound system. Not including parking costs, your cocacola, chocolate and popcorn a the cinema, and, ofc, the time spent going and coming back from the theather. Even if its a 2 people, its almost 600 only on tickets per year.no thanks
because of movie theaters I'm able to see movies 4 days after release for 6 dollars per ticket with a giant screen and surround sound
i would have paid 6 dollars to see beasts of no nation in theaters, I wish while netflix released movies digitally they also put them in theaters if possible
They are already changing. Reserved seating, reclining leather seats, much better food and service at your seat through the movie, even adding beer and liquor.
family of 4, 4 movies per month... 4*4*6*12 = 1152 dollars per year. There goes a nice big 4k HDR TV plus a decent sound system. Not including parking costs, your cocacola, chocolate and popcorn a the cinema, and, ofc, the time spent going and coming back from the theather. Even if its a 2 people, its almost 600 only on tickets per year.
You can prefer theater, but I dont see how you can include 'cheap' as being an advantage over home watching.
Where the hell at? Only theater other than Regal here is a smaller theater that has terrible quality and seats for a few dollars cheaper. I rather movies day 1 on digital distribution like Netflix, theaters have gotten too expensive with no improvements.
Honestly, for me, there is nothing like seeing a film in a proper darkened cinema with a massive screen and a good sound system. Watching films at home always feels so underwhelming in comparison.
Agreed.Sooner cinemas die the better.
yes
and stadiums
and bars
True but unless you're going to a Drafthouse or Night showing, it's gonna get ruined by assholes such as parents who couldn't hire a babysitter, phone jerks, loud talkers, etc.
That's a nice man made of straw you built there. I'm pretty sure very few people do this.The backlash in this thread isn't even about convenience, really. The movie would still be available on home devices after a certain window of time. It's about feeling entitled to watch a movie day one in the Netflix app on your Galaxy while you participate in a raid and browse GAF.
Yup, which is doing well for The Big Sick (financed by Amazon).He's right. The fact that Netflix barely released Okja and Beasts of No Nation in theaters is an insult to the very films they finance. They should do what Amazon does with a limited arthouse run with possibility of a wide-expansion, but then right on Netflix within a month of leaving theaters.
I mean, that should be a loud and clear message that most people do not want to go to a theater to watch movies. Netflix is doing right by its customers. Movie theaters are sure to go the way of video game arcades, where only a few specialized locations continue to exist. They haven't been the main place to watch movies for most people for quite some time now.