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PS4 passes 63.3 million shipped (as of June 30)

Good sales.

The business as a whole seems to be going nicely as well.

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MisterR

Member
What a difference a few years make. I remember the height of the PS3 era where Sony was posting near billion dollars loses per quarter with no end in sight.

There are still a ton of people on Neogaf who still think they are about to go out of business at any minute.
 

dracula_x

Member
Game & Network Services segment

Sales for the quarter increased 5% year-on-year. Operating income decreased 26.3 billion yen yearon-year to 17.7 billion yen, primarily due to the absence of the significant contribution from Uncharted 4, a first-party title that went on sale in the same
quarter of the previous fiscal year, and the impact of a price reduction on PS4 hardware. Network revenue increased 34% year-on-year.
Our operating income forecast has been upwardly revised by 10 billion yen to 180 billion yen, primarily due to the impact of appreciation of euro against U.S. dollar.

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ForwardWorks, which distributes game applications for mobile products, started to distribute its first game, Everybody's Golf, on July 4th. It has been downloaded more than 2 million times. We look forward to expanding the business going forward and are planning to distribute our first original content called Sora to Umi no Aida from the beginning of October.
 
I really thought the Pro would be a bad idea but it seems to fit really nicely within their portfolio now without taking away from standard PS4 sales. Well done Sony.
 

jdmonmou

Member
My hot take from this is that the PS4 Pro didn't really help PS4 sales since the operating income still decreased significantly. Because money from PS4 hardware sales is declining I still think a fully backwards compatible PS5 in fall 2018 is possible.
 

Mario007

Member
My hot take from this is that the PS4 Pro didn't really help PS4 sales since the operating income still decreased significantly. Because money from PS4 hardware sales is declining I still think a fully backwards compatible PS5 in fall 2018 is possible.
Considering they had a global 2 weeks pricecut on the ps4, which they admitted costed them revenue,your hottake is probably not 100% correct.
 

Toni

Member
My hot take from this is that the PS4 Pro didn't really help PS4 sales since the operating income still decreased significantly. Because money from PS4 hardware sales is declining I still think a fully backwards compatible PS5 in fall 2018 is possible.

Operating income decreased because compared to last year, there was no Uncharted 4 release or a major exclusive game released during the period of the quarter.

Not because PS4 sales as a whole are declining. Read the summary please.
 

DieH@rd

Banned
They do have Spider-Man: Homecoming and Baby Driver (not sure if they'll make more than MiB) and Gran Turismo Sport (though GT1 sold 10m+).

Baby Driver is not in the league of MiB.

Baby Driver budget - $34M
Baby Driver box office - $138M

MiB budget - $90M
MiB box office - $589M
 
Some comments from
non-GAF
analysts

- ”Results are good," said David Dai, an analyst at Sanford C. Bernstein & Co. ”But they're still low-balling their profit outlook, so I would expect to see them continue to beat consensus as well as their own guidance going forward."

- Chief Financial Officer Kenichiro Yoshida defended the conservative outlook, saying ”for one thing, we only had three months in this fiscal year." Sony decided not to raise its guidance due to ”variations of the macro-economic environment, and also cost and demand factors," he said.

Bloomberg Link



I dont know why people are mentioning Spider-Man: Homecoming and Baby Driver when both of them are not doing anything exceptional in Box Office?

Spider-Man: Homecoming is still the 4th most successful film in the Spider Man Series. and i doubt if it will rise any further

and Baby Driver is also nothing to write home about. Less than 100 million in US Box Office.

Baby Driver wasn't even a lock to gross over 50-60 million US back when it released. The budget is what, 30-40 million? It's going to be a nice over-performer for Sony.

Homecoming probably performed within the range Sony was expecting it to. The Spider-Man franchise isn't exactly what it was 10 years ago and Sony surely knew that. The most important thing for them is that they have a route going forward, which was unclear after TASM2
 

Curufinwe

Member
My hot take from this is that the PS4 Pro didn't really help PS4 sales since the operating income still decreased significantly. Because money from PS4 hardware sales is declining I still think a fully backwards compatible PS5 in fall 2018 is possible.

It's not a hot take, it's just nonsense.
 
Not a chance. It won't even pass Wii

I could see the PS4 hitting 100+ lifetime if the price drops low enough.

My hot take from this is that the PS4 Pro didn't really help PS4 sales since the operating income still decreased significantly. Because money from PS4 hardware sales is declining I still think a fully backwards compatible PS5 in fall 2018 is possible.

I still think a fully backwards compatible PS5 in fall 2018 is possible.

fully backwards compatible PS5 in fall 2018

That is absolutely ridiculous
 

Curufinwe

Member
They will easily reach that number by the end of their FY.

Now lets talk about what kind of hat do you want to eat? Will you eat it raw or cook and mix it with something else?

There will be no hat eating.

If he was actually confident in his prediction he would offer to stop posting in any sales related thread for the rest of 2018 if he's wrong.
 

Pachael

Member
China growth y/y is big*, and justifies the huge amount of attention Sony as a whole are putting on it.

*Smaller base, but it's already larger than 'other areas' and out of AP I think it should be near South Korea

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I think it will end up at 120M if Sony do the PS2 treatment and sell it for $99 until 2025.

on the other hand if Sony goes the PS3 way it will barely pass the 100M mar

PS4 is a monster either way
 
Man, over the next 2.5 years they only need to average slightly less tha 15 million a yearto reach 100 million by the end of the decade. 3 full holidays remain between now and then too, fucking crazy.

Even assuming sales decline and they pnly can average 6 million each holiday quarter, that leaves them only needing to average around 2.6 million per quarter for the remainder to make it.
 

Loudninja

Member
China growth y/y is big*, and justifies the huge amount of attention Sony as a whole are putting on it.

*Smaller base, but it's already larger than 'other areas' and out of AP I think it should be near South Korea

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Woah that's some nice growth.
 
China growth y/y is big*, and justifies the huge amount of attention Sony as a whole are putting on it.

*Smaller base, but it's already larger than 'other areas' and out of AP I think it should be near South Korea

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Is this for Sony's PlayStation business or Sony as a whole?

I'm surprised that the Japanese revenue figure is so much larger than the rest (even the US)...?
 
Lol. PS4 will pass WII 99,9%.
I still cant fathom hiw these people come up with these estimates. Even if they say a cataclysmic decline it will still hit Wii numbers at minimum by end of life. They shipped nearly 10 million last quarter, even a decline to 6 million average would get them to 100 million by 2020. And Sony systems have a long life, PS3 wasnt fully discontinued until May pf this year.
 

Roshin

Member
My hot take from this is that the PS4 Pro didn't really help PS4 sales since the operating income still decreased significantly. Because money from PS4 hardware sales is declining I still think a fully backwards compatible PS5 in fall 2018 is possible.

Good luck with that.
 
Man, over the next 2.5 years they only need to average slightly less tha 15 million a yearto reach 100 million by the end of the decade. 3 full holidays remain between now and then too, fucking crazy.

Even assuming sales decline and they pnly can average 6 million each holiday quarter, that leaves them only needing to average around 2.6 million per quarter for the remainder to make it.

Just look at how bad PS3 sold after The PS4 launch. The PS4 killed PS3 and i expect something similar to happen in 2019 if Sony doesn't lower the price below $149 (assuming they get the ps5 price just like they did with ps4)
 
Don't get too comfortable until all your chickens are hatched, we won't know until March 31st

I am literally blown away. You believe that in spite of shipping 20 million last year, this the remainder of this year they are only likely to ship 6.7 million. And apparently anything more than that is channel stuffing.

On top of which, you predicted the holiday quarter to be down 2 million, which would already be 7.7 million shipped.

So apparently the PS4 is going to have negative shipments for the other 2 quarters this fiscal year, by your own posts in this thread.

It's hard not to feel confident in predictions higher than yours, given that.
 
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