AA blast debuff goes through bkb, and AA was behind a nyx. Satanic wouldn't have saved him.
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DOTA 2 The International 2017 (Aug 7-12) Game of throwns - you win or you pld
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AA blast debuff goes through bkb, and AA was behind a nyx. Satanic wouldn't have saved him.
Dreams-Visions
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With all the NA and EU teams looking hella questionable, I've cancelled my plane ticket.
I'll just watch in my Vive when I'm in the mood.
Very disappointed in Cr1t's drafts. Awful through and through and they've felt off for most of his time as the team's drafter to be quite honest. If cr1t isn't gone or removed from the captain's chair, EG will continue to lose like this.
I'll just watch in my Vive when I'm in the mood.
Very disappointed in Cr1t's drafts. Awful through and through and they've felt off for most of his time as the team's drafter to be quite honest. If cr1t isn't gone or removed from the captain's chair, EG will continue to lose like this.
literally nobody thought of empire, so probably them
they're looking really hot now
they seriously can reach grand finals i think
shira
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StrongArmSteady
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We already saw this season. ArtEEzy was terrible.
Shartour needs to go back to offlane/mid, get his SPD gaming mojo back.
Jay Shadow
Member
have you kicked zai from EG already?
sleverfunk
Member
BibleThump
mysteriousmage09
Member
The absolute second I saw Wyvern again after allowing Sven......again.
The outcome was obvious, same fucking results, it's clear as day who the weakest link on the team is.
Go 0-2 yesterday, lose your fist game to out of control Sven and allow the same shit to happen while picking the same fucking character for yourself while on death's door? Cr1t has got to fucking go.
The outcome was obvious, same fucking results, it's clear as day who the weakest link on the team is.
Go 0-2 yesterday, lose your fist game to out of control Sven and allow the same shit to happen while picking the same fucking character for yourself while on death's door? Cr1t has got to fucking go.
Monochromaticx
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Empire
Woo-Fu
Banned
Reso can't switch teams, Planet Odd disbanded when they didn't make it to TI.
He's definitely going to be on a new team, the question is which one. If I had to bet I'd put my money on Na'vi if they can get a captain he wants to play with.
People predicting VP vs. Empire finals seem to be forgetting about LFY.
Turdburger
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EG looked to be in their own heads
I feel like that mid T1 fight in G1 against Newbee totally crushed that team's mindset for whatever reason. In all 3 games after that that they came out with a solid early game plan and performed well but were timid and played not to lose afterwards.
Also let's be real that WW pick didn't do anything. They got maybe 3 good curses off in both games combined and none of them led to kills on 1 or 2 position heroes
I feel like that mid T1 fight in G1 against Newbee totally crushed that team's mindset for whatever reason. In all 3 games after that that they came out with a solid early game plan and performed well but were timid and played not to lose afterwards.
Also let's be real that WW pick didn't do anything. They got maybe 3 good curses off in both games combined and none of them led to kills on 1 or 2 position heroes
SEA/SA/NA (minus EG) teams, IG.V, HR, Empire. Honestly both LGD teams were kind of overlooked since neither had much to show in terms of results on the year, both got on a roll in the Chinese qualifiers.
Oh right.
Monochromaticx
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Plot twist: EG.puppey
waxinlyrical
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Oof, surely it can't be that bad DV. Mason and his boys might still take it all the way.
I'm personally hoping for a VP vs Newbee Grand Final. It wouldn't feel as hype without a West versus East grand final. I do hope VP win though, it's been far too long since CIS felt like a powerhouse Dota region. Who doesn't appreciate a little cyka blyat every now and then.
Dreams-Visions
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Yes, he does. Poor drafts on a consistent basis, forgettable individual performances.
Letting Sven through while picking soft illusion cores that take forever to ramp up, then letting Earthshaker, then Nyx (both of which are probably around a 70% winrate in this tournament) means you didn't like your job as captain or you didn't want it.
Cr1t can go be bad on some other team. Not even top 8 is going to sit poorly with these players for a long, long time. How are FEAR's hands these days? Dump Cr1t at the airport, let FEAR go play the r or 5 and let someone else draft. Fuck it.
(not really FEAR unless he really wanted to, but definitely drop Cr1t off at the airport and find a new 5)
Oof, surely it can't be that bad DV. Mason and his boys might still take it all the way.
I'm personally hoping for a VP vs Newbee Grand Final. It wouldn't feel as hype without a West versus East grand final. I do hope VP win though, it's been far too long since CIS felt like a powerhouse Dota region. Who doesn't appreciate a little cyka blyat every now and then.
ticket refunded. I'm good.
and nah, I don't believe in any NA or EU teams anymore. They're all in loser's for a fucking reason. They got shit on and will get shit on again. This tournament has about as much suspense as TI4 did.
Sad that you won't be there
I'm still flying down, even if it's only for baseball at this point, fuck this TI from an NA's fan perspective
Jeez; what a mentality to have
Dreams-Visions
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Sad that you won't be there
I'm still flying down, even if it's only for baseball at this point, fuck this TI from an NA's fan perspective
Next year, fam. I expect NA and EU to reshuffle and regroup appropriately. I expect there to be changes to this EG team no later than noon on Monday. I'm salty as fuck. I didn't even expect them to win, but to not even compete...against an Empire team that admits aren't even a team...fuckouttahere.
Yea, I go to events to support teams I care about. I'm not flying 3,200 miles and dropping $1k to watch teams I don't give a fuck about duke it out for a victory. That'd be like me making a special trip to watch the NFL/NBA playoffs if I were a fan of the Jets or 76ers or some shit. No thanks. I can do that for free in the Vive I already own AND get work done AND make more money AND go sign the lease for mew Mercedes.
That bother you?
Replacing a player at the last moment is hard for any teams in TI.
Just look at VG.R ( 16th ) and LGD ( 12th ) last year.
Empire is now at least top 8 and they eliminated the one of the favorites, EG who has their squad together for almost a year, coming into this tournament.
Empire is the underdog but it also speaks how good Resolution is in his core abilities and synergies with the team.
Just look at VG.R ( 16th ) and LGD ( 12th ) last year.
Empire is now at least top 8 and they eliminated the one of the favorites, EG who has their squad together for almost a year, coming into this tournament.
Empire is the underdog but it also speaks how good Resolution is in his core abilities and synergies with the team.
fn is underrated i think, he perhaps doesn't have the mechanical skills of sumail or mid1 etc but he's definitely good, when eg took tier 2 bottom and fn shot an arrow into the bottom lane jungle and blind hit cr1t, that was awesome
the fight near dire secret shop where fn manfighted and killed 2 was great as well, but that's only possible cuz he was already too fat
the fight near dire secret shop where fn manfighted and killed 2 was great as well, but that's only possible cuz he was already too fat
Fucking lol
Turdburger
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Doesn't that team do more of a community drafting kind of thing than any other team? Everyone is shitting on crit and I'm sure he gets the final say but those guys have always talked about how much input everyone on the team has in drafts and strategy planning
I agree that their drafts have felt off the entire year..... that team never had a consistent identity; they seemed to play their best when they built their entire draft and strategy around enabling sumail but that simply didn't happen at TI
Yeah; just seems like a shitty attitude. Also all the make money chest thumping is humorous
Also, bragging about a lease lol
Reso is a god; but if you have to swap out one position and keep synergy on a team; It'd have to be your 1 position. Imagine swapping your 4 this patch?
Excited for B-god tomorrow.
What a baby lmao
lol. oh shit we got a baller here.
Dreams-Visions
Member
You could be right and maybe that's the problem. If they're doing it by committee and cr1t isn't strong enough to say, "no it's going to be this..." then he still has to go or someone else needs to take over the drafting. Simple process that. EG's results at majors with him at the wheel have not been especially memorable. Picking Wyvern and known weak illusion carries while letting Shaker and Nyx through...got some splainin to do.
I'm just telling you what my options were:
a) Fly 3,200mi to a tournament to watch all of my teams fail to compete and ultimately lose
b) Stay home, save money, make money, get shit IRL done.
I think most would choose sane people would choose B. Fortunately you have no bearing or relevance in my life, so your opinion doesn't mean much beyond this 2 minute conversation that's about to end now.
More specifically, a baller making the best decision with his money that he can. If you guys want to go, spend your money and go. I'll redirect mine as I see fit to maximize my time and entertainment value. Your opinions on the matter were neither requested no required.
wut
ti4 was literally MEMEPUSH
most games ended sub 20 minutes or some shit
game 1 was terrible for eg, but game 2 they legit had a decent chance, it was not as boring as ti4
https://www.dotabuff.com/esports/events/197/heroes
es has played 57 games and has 57.89% win rate, that's alright i feel
nyx though with 40 games and 77.50% is not fucking ok, he's definitely 2nd ban material
sven with 36 games and 63.89% is kinda scary but not as troublesome as nyx
That was the year Mason made EG lose by throwing out absolutely trash blackholes right?
shira
Member
Cmon dude, his boys just got dumpstered.
This thread is a safe place to vent your frustrations (or talk about anime)
True. Just hate the hate train that forms when China teams dominate. This is so far from the TI4 snoozefest. Lots of amazing games so far and I'm not sold on any of the top 4 winning it all. The draft is part of it; but most of the wins have had flat out outplayed-styled on moments from the winning team.
give me your ticket, you can deliver it in your mercedes
Dreams-Visions
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I may be confusing the number of TI but I'm referring to the tournament with Mason on EG. I didn't enjoy it much and the conclusion was as predictable as the grand finals were bad.
And nah, ES has been most banned for a good reason. Don't let that 57% (which is already really high) fool you. And I didn't know Sven was that high after that many games played. Still, letting Sven through wasn't the problem; it was the carries chosen who were really weak against him (that also take a long time to come online) coupled with somewhat awkward team comps. And of course getting outplayed.
But then you'd get the ticket too late as I haven't picked it up yet. If you had just said, "give me your ticket", I'd just mail you my lanyard. Then again, that might get there too late too.
Aigh, see you then.
Easy for me to go down this year even with almost zero excitment for the Dota at this point. Spending $500 TOTAL for dota/hotel/airfare/baseball/food lul
Granted, the 8'x10' room I'm staying in is SMALL as hell, but whatever, I'll just sleep as little as humanly possible and crawl bars around Cap Hill after the games.
GAF meetup when? Discord invite when?
coming after EG wins TI AM I RITE?
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Now I don't have to choose between my two favorite players, S4 and Universe.
I watched all the TI since the very first one ( because Zenith / SG-scythe ) and this TI is no doubt one of the most exciting out of all them.
One of the main reasons is the competition is tighter year after year. The lower tier ( even if slightly ) teams take off games of higher tier more reliably this time round. Level of skills and coordinations are also higher.
One of the main reasons is the competition is tighter year after year. The lower tier ( even if slightly ) teams take off games of higher tier more reliably this time round. Level of skills and coordinations are also higher.
Sigismundo
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Teams I want to win:
- Liquid, TNC, Empire, VP
Teams I don't care about:
- DC
Teams I actively do not want to win:
- OG, China
I mostly don't want the same team or the same region winning over and over again.
- Liquid, TNC, Empire, VP
Teams I don't care about:
- DC
Teams I actively do not want to win:
- OG, China
I mostly don't want the same team or the same region winning over and over again.
shira
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Reso should get a fat bonus
What hotel/Airbnb are you staying in that's that cheap?! I got an Airbnb for the whole week for about $750. It's a small room, but quite nice.
my other boy, their social media dude, about to get paid