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2016-17 TV Cancellations Thread: TNT finds "Nothing can come of nothing."
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torre_avenue
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I agree, GAF doesn't contain many people with good taste.
I never post about Netflix shows on GAF outside of maybe a post here or in the Netflix thread. I would imagine it is the same for most people. With the release format you just watch it on your own pace and don't spend time dicussing and theorizing between episodes since there is no point to that, since you can just watch the next episode and see the conclusion.
Don't think I posted about Ozark yet anywhere and that is my favorite new show so far this year.
Don't think I posted about Ozark yet anywhere and that is my favorite new show so far this year.
That's a radical shift in scope. I think there's a good miniseries in there, but maybe not 10 hours worth. Not sure the trial is all that interesting as a cinematic subject.
dead souls
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Damn, sounds like they should change the name to American Horror Story: Katrina.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
There's actually quite a few great shows on Seeso, though the best are British imports.
I highly recommend every fellow American watch Flowers on there as they have the exclusive rights in this region. 6 episode Channel 4 dark-comedy-sometimes-drama starring Julian Barratt (Mighty Boosh, Nathan Barley) and Olivia Colman about a really fucked up family.
Seriously good.
It's a $4/mo sub but you can get a free trial. Honestly well worth $4 to just binge the best stuff on Seeso before it closes down.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
I've heard great things about Flowers but I always forget it exists. Maybe Netflix or Amazon can get the rights to it now that Seeso is dead.
Like, just use the free trial?
Anyway, here's some other good stuff on there I think everyone should watch if they haven't yet:
Monty Python's Flying Circus
Garth Marenghi's Darkplace
The Mighty Boosh
Nathan Barley
The Kids In The Hall
Fawlty Towers
Black Adder
The Office UK (is that on netflix too?)
Lesser shows that are more hit or miss but I have found enjoyable:
The IT Crowd
Snuffbox
I never really got hooked by any of the original shows but people say good things about Take My Wife. Bajillion Dollar Properties has a lot of Comedy Bang Bang regulars but I thought it was just okay.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
GLOW renewed for season 2
Nice! It took me a few eps to warm up to it but I'm glad I stuck it out, great show.
Those are at least a few years off.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Stranger Things dominated the pop cultural conversation last summer - we'll see if they can keep it up come October.
It'll be interesting to see if the writers can pivot the show from being a vapid puzzlebox into a truly compelling drama. At any rate, I doubt the audience will care as long as they keep the spectacle and mysteries going.
I don't see anything non sci-fi/fantasy/genre becoming the next Walking Dead/Game of Thrones.
I mean, I guess there's a chance that The Deuce breaks out if it's especially pulpy or whatever, but Simon generally isn't interested in making things that appeal to the mainstream. The only shows that he's ever produced that have gotten viewers are Generation Kill and Homicide Life on the Street.
Maaaaybe~~~
Dedication Through Light
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Surprised were getting two shows with autistic main characters close together (ABCs Doctor show, and Netflix's one later this month). I dont know if another attempt at the miracle worker doctor dramas will catch on for ABC
HBO generally doesn't really do much social promotion beyond sending things out into the world. I wouldn't read too much into it.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
I feel like Simon gets a free pass anyway - no one will watch the show, it will get some critical acclaim, and he'll get another show a few years down the line. Whether it's because HBO believes in him or he has some dirt on everyone there is another story. lol
Certainly, I doubt HBO goes into David Simon projects with the bars for success set terribly high. I imagine expectations are modest, and they know Simon's stuff is valuable as one corner of their current and past catalogs, particularly for audiences who care more about grounded dramas than fantastical shows.
Freeza Under The Shower
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Counter thought: Less theories, more shock & awe style popularity. House of Cards was huge, mostly due to a proficiency in delivering gif material and having Fincher on board. Stranger Things was, for about a whole month, too. 13 Reasons Why and Orange Is The New Black as well.
And somewhat curiously, despite the onslaught of 'people talking about' Westworld looking bigger and lengthier, it almost immediately died with the finale. So when correcting for broadcast schedules, I suspect you'll find that the enduring conversations are actually the more important one when predicting whether people will watch following seasons.
Sense8 for instance, had basically neither, to my knowledge. Meaning it simply didn't generate clear attention (using only the 'talking about' HBO method in this argument, obviously Netflix and Amazon also use user viewing data) to validate its budget.
The 'talking about' HBO thing is a quote from Aaron Sorkin btw, as an answer to 'wtf' HBO's business model is. Apparently they only care about whether people are talking it. If they do, renew. If they don't, cancel. It's a prestige model, but also surprisingly effective.
Also, on the topic of Netflix, I do hope all seasons of Twin Peaks will eventually make it back onto it.
love Ozark
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
I shit talk the quality of a lot of these Netflix projects, but Ozark was a nice hidden gem. I figured it would be basura the way Netflix just dropped it with little fanfare. but it ended up being one of the stronger original releases I've seen from them.
I would love to get a peak at just a few of their metrics. Like how GLOW did compared to the 1st season of Orange is the New Black in the same time frame, how many people actually watch(ed) Stranger Things, etc.
Nice, glad to see this. Enjoy watching this one with my family, it's not anything special but we all really like it.
Oh look, Frasier and 30 rock are really on the wishlist
http://tvline.com/2017/08/10/frasier-revival-nbc-kelsey-grammer-cast/
http://tvline.com/2017/08/10/frasier-revival-nbc-kelsey-grammer-cast/
WaffleTaco
Wants to outlaw technological innovation.
It will probably be even bigger, although I think they should have released in the middle of October rather than on Halloween. I think reading an interview of theirs said they will only only have a few seasons, possibly only three or four.
dead souls
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I get wanting to bring back Frasier, but I don't get wanting to bring back 30 Rock at all. I mean, I loved the show and it won Emmys but it never got good ratings at all during its original run. I'd be thrilled to see more if the quality was still there, but it doesn't seem like a good choice for NBC.
But what if Jack Donaghy is now the president.
it's all about what can get the most eyeballs for advertisers. Integrity is long gone for the big 4.
Netflix cancelled Gypsy. *crickets* *tumbleweeds*
I find it weird that as cancellation-happy as Netflix is getting, they still haven't officially killed Flaked, but I can attribute that to them forgetting the show exists, just like everyone else.
I find it weird that as cancellation-happy as Netflix is getting, they still haven't officially killed Flaked, but I can attribute that to them forgetting the show exists, just like everyone else.
Dedication Through Light
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Nooo, I wanted a season 2 eventually 
I love boyband
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Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
I couldn't be bothered with Gypsy. It didn't seem to have an interest in hooking you as a viewer. The first episode would do stuff like have a character almost get hit by a car to artificially beef up the tension.
Plus it reminded me too much of Chance on Hulu. I didn't hate it...yet, just wasn't strong enough to justify my time with so many other options these days.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
It's smart, but I honestly think even 4 seasons may be pushing it for this particular story. They're positioning season 2, not as a second season, but as a sequel to the first, so I think 3 seasons would be perfect because they're clearly aiming for a more filmic story structure and most film franchises go the traditional trilogy route.
it's not, it's on 10/27.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Netflix has the lowest cancellation rate of any "network" ever, even if you only count this year.
Oh cool! Seemed kind of on the bubble, good critical reception but the social media response seemed tepid. Didn't explode in popularity like supernatural kids or suicide high school. Good to know quality will keep it alive at least. Sorry Gypsy.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
I wonder for how much longer that will be the case though...
Putting all that aside, I wouldn't want to see these kids getting much older any way.
Yesssss
Love Frasier, but the show had a great run where everything wrapped up satisfyingly without overstaying it's welcome (yeah S8-10 were weaker, but S11 went out a winner). They told an arc in the character's life and he'd moved on by the end there's no big unanswered questions or whatever the fuck Will & Grace needed to fix. Plus showrunners aside, Chris Lloyd is still on Modern Family and you'd need the GOAT Joe Keenan, whose talents have sadly gone to waste since then.
Plus the nostalgia level for Frasier isn't exactly Friends tier. Slightly older audience I think.
Norwegian Rudo
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I'm honestly surprised they're not filming seasons 2 and 3 back to back for this reason.
WaffleTaco
Wants to outlaw technological innovation.
I agree with you tbh. I'm not really sure on the differences between a Season 2 and a sequel, because I feel like those should be the same thing.
Oh! Close enough lol.
WaffleTaco
Wants to outlaw technological innovation.
I think I'm going to divide it to two episodes a night and finish on Halloween...although I haven't looked at a Calendar, and it's a little early to be making Halloween plans. Is it even confirmed it's 8 episodes again?I can watch all of it before Halloween
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
torre_avenue
Banned
This HBO hack is getting serious.
They've leaked new episodes of Curb Your Enthusiasm, Barry, and The Deuce.
They've leaked new episodes of Curb Your Enthusiasm, Barry, and The Deuce.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Shonda Rhimes Moves to Netflix From ABC With Huge Overall Deal
Whoa. Netflix is getting so aggressive snatching away talent.
Whoa. Netflix is getting so aggressive snatching away talent.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Jeez, RIP ABC?
Like I said in that thread, The Deuce will get more PR from this leak than from actually coming out next month. lol
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So I'm Dying Up Here ended. No idea if it'll be renewed, but it's like a 10 hour Marc Maron podcast where you don't give a shit about anyone involved. At least Melissa Leo was being Melissa Leo-ey, if you're into watching her act.
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