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Kong: Skull Island Director Takes on Cinema Sins

SeanC

Member
Honest trailers is far superior to cinema sins. It is possible to make fun of movies in a silly way which I think honest trailers achieves. Cinema sins is just negativity and nitpicks in an unfunny way in some desperate attempt to seem intellectually superior to creative people without actually having to do anything creative themselves.

Love HT, fun, the tone is spot-on, you know it's jokes and puns and riffs and the "announcer voice" is always great to hear. Cinema Sins has one joke (one note) and drills it into the ground.
 

Mesoian

Member
HEY YOU GUYS ITS JUST A JOKE SO BECAUSE ITS A JOKE YOU CAN'T CALL IT OUT BECAUSE JOKES ARE UN CRITICIZABLE YOU KNOW STOP CARING SO MUCH YOU THINK TOO MUCH TRY CARING ABOUT SOMETHING MORE IMPORTANT LOL ITS JUST A JOKE WHY SO SRS LOL STOP TAKING JOKES SO PERSONA—Sharon please, you don't know what its like here in this apartment by myself I wake up alone and it smells like crab downstairs I just want to see the kids again please can't you just forgi—

I was gonna sort of tear into this a bit but then the post edit made me laugh and now I'm endorsing it.

Seriously though, it's just a youtube channel. I watch it because it gives me a sensible chuckle now and again, but it's so easy to ignore.
 

dosh

Member
CinemaSins is, literally, just pointing out flaws in films...
They're really not.

All Cinema Sins does is nitpick to an absurd level for the sake of being funny, all the while failing miserably at, you guessed it, being funny.

Every single one of their videos ends up being empty, mean-spirited and sterile. And too long. These videos are way, way too long.
 
People actually take cinema sins seriously? Cause it really a lot of arbitrary nitpicky towards absurd levels seems like nonsense fun or trying to be funny because anymore than that it really toxic if people are influenced by such nonsense.
 

Real Hero

Member
cinemasins is pure shite internet 'criticism' distilled. People always excuse it as its just fun but its not because people parrot that crap like its valid.

it's like using 'why didn't the eagles drop the ring in mordor though???' as a reason to hate lord of the rings
 

Gravidee

Member
I saw some of their videos a couple of years ago and yeah, I don't like their style. It's not smart, and it's not funny. It's just pointing out things in movies just because they can in order to troll viewers and filmmakers alike. Not to say that there aren't some legitimate "sins". But when you have them grasping at straws like with that sandwich eating scene, it's just stupid.
 
CinemaSins is no worse than a mixed bag for me nowadays. They take off sins for really cool stuff, and they still catch lots of legitimate flaws. On the negative side they do throw things in purely for jokes that fall flat, or sometimes they just don't understand what's going on. So it's a mixed bag.
 
Youtube always tries to recommend their vids to me. But I never watch... it'll make you focus on dumb shit you can't unsee the next time you want to enjoy the film. They aren't even that funny.

Honest Trailers has a much better hook and the vids are shorter.
 

Slacker

Member
I agree pretty much, there's no real value in them, dude's know jack shit about filmmaking, yet influence opinion on a vast scale.

What? Is this a common belief? I enjoy Cinema Sins and I've never gotten the impression it was anything other than tongue-in-cheek fun. Do people really think the guy thinks good movies are made bad by the stuff he points out for comedy purposes?
 

Sephzilla

Member
I've seen enough CinemaSins videos to not buy into the narrative that the entire thing is just a joke that shouldn't be taken seriously. These guys definitely have a bunch of moments where you get to peak behind the curtain and realize they are actually being snobby dickwads who believe what they are saying.
 
Is there a pateron account?

There should be

(I will need it to pay Bronx Man for my joke theft)

On the one hand, cinema sins is pure shit.

But on the other hand, so was Kong: Skull Island.

Don't know who to root for here...

Root for Roberts. Skull Island is a shit movie but he's still better at what he's trying to do than Cinema Sins is at what they're failing at.

(Plus he's directed some really good TV)
 

Mesoian

Member
They're really not.

All Cinema Sins does is nitpick to an absurd level for the sake of being funny, all the while failing miserably at, you guessed it, being funny.

Every single one of their videos ends up being empty, mean-spirited and sterile. And too long. These videos are way, way too long.

I've come to find that CinemaSin is on point with movies they either super super hate or really really love. Their video for Godzilla (the 2015 one) is really good because they genuinely enjoy that movie. But if they're blaize on a film, the effort they put into the video reflects it, as made obvious by the many many MANNNNNY jump scare horror videos they've reviewed.
 

MMarston

Was getting caught part of your plan?

TwoDurans

"Never said I wasn't a hypocrite."
I used to like Cinema Sins when the videos were about 5 minutes long. Now they seem to be trying to pad the sin count with some of the dumbest thing, including asking questions that are answered in the movie if they'd actually watched them. I'm not going to sit through a 20 minute nitpick.
 

kiguel182

Member
You can say the jokes aren’t funny but if you are acting like they are a serious channel the well, you are wrong.

It’s comedy. It might be good or bad comedy but it’s not meant to be taken seriously.
 

Mesoian

Member
I've actual been in conversations with people who merely echo what they saw in a CinemaSins video.

And almost every time, this is how those conversations eventually end.

Something I've been seeing more and more as time marches on is mroe and more people parroting the opinions of movie fanblogs, to the point where I wonder if they actually watched the movie themselves. This happens a lot with Marvel movies and people who admittedly don't have any interest in reading comics but are suddenly very concerned about where the Kree or the Skrulls will be because they learned about them in some fandom blog. It's weird.
 

Snaku

Banned
These shitty YouTube comedy film critic shows are toxic and full of themselves; the cinema equivalent of political shitshows like Crossfire. Glad to see actual artists finally firing back.
 

Slacker

Member
cinemasins is pure shite internet 'criticism' distilled. People always excuse it as its just fun but its not because people parrot that crap like its valid.

it's like using 'why didn't the eagles drop the ring in mordor though???' as a reason to hate lord of the rings

So these people would have had a deep and nuanced opinion on these movies otherwise?
 
You literally have to be a contrarian about everything, don't you?

What's contrarian about pointing out that CinemaSins makes people angry? Like, it's just a series that points out stupid sins and they're mostly wrong about a lot of the stuff. You have parody videos and videos doing sins on their sin videos and a large amount of online chat about how bad they are. It's a really strange phenomenon because they're not actively shaping the movie industry or giving off a horrible message. My idea is that they're popular and some folks cannot stand folks being popular for stupid reasons.
 
You can say the jokes aren't funny but if you are acting like they are a serious channel the well, you are wrong.

It's comedy. It might be good or bad comedy but it's not meant to be taken seriously.

It's bad comedy. People are saying as such.

What are you arguing against? You can't say "it's not meant to be taken seriously" as a response if you're going to also allow for people to criticize it as comedy. In order to criticize something, you kinda sorta have to, yunno, take it a little bit seriously as you think on it.

Shitty comedians making shitty jokes don't get a free pass to stay and be shitty just because they're comedians. I don't get why people insist on arguing this point.

What's contrarian about pointing out that CinemaSins makes people angry? My idea is that they're popular and some folks cannot stand folks being popular for stupid reasons.

Why are the reasons "stupid"

Why are you reducing valid complaints against their comedy to "you're just jealous" as a dismissal?

What's the purpose of pursuing this line? What are you getting out of it
 

Experien

Member
I once watched Cinema Sins a long time ago and then they started just put false stuff in their videos just for the "lulz." It is almost like clickbait jokes now. Made of people to just devour, laugh at without even thinking about.

Wasn't it originally for entertainment but to point out plot holes in a movie and errors in continuity? I mean, how is not showing someone dying in one scene vs another really a "cinema sin?"

What is Cinema Sin anymore?
 

Deadly Cyclone

Pride of Iowa State
A lot of people in here hating Cinema Sins. A bit surprised. I always took their videos as fun, obviously not serious videos that are meant to be seen after you see the movie to laugh at some of the ridiculous movie and plot tricks you ignore while watching.

I never took CS as actual movie reviewers and critics. I think they fully know they are nitpicking the shit out of movies, that's the point.
 

itwasTuesday

He wasn't alone.
Who cares about cinema sins
Only time I see them is when my dad comes over and wants to show me the funny video he found, and I think even he has moved on. Been years.

I think the list are made by robots now.

Cinema sins just always comes off as super lazy while asking the audience to do mental gymnastics to make their criticisms work
 
Cinema Sins catches 100 out of the 20 critical flaws a movie.

But they're good for pointing out specific scenes for criticism which other reviews usually don't.
 

zeemumu

Member
often just wrong about intent or how cinema works. It's terrible.

That's the point. Maybe a small handful of their criticisms in most videos are legitimate. The rest are either extreme nitpicks or completely ridiculous ("Scene does not contain a lapdance" for example)
 
A lot of people in here hating Cinema Sins. A bit surprised. I always took their videos as fun, obviously not serious videos that are meant to be seen after you see the movie to laugh at some of the ridiculous movie and plot tricks you ignore while watching.

I never took CS as actual movie reviewers and critics. I think they fully know they are nitpicking the shit out of movies, that's the point.

Even if I agreed that "is the point", why on earth would anyone want to sit down for 20 minutes to watch that?
 

Poppy

Member
You literally have to be a contrarian about everything, don't you?
subpar spatula is my new slate soda because i actually saw slate soda agree with something this year, so clearly i had it all wrong

so i say unto you subpar spatula, never stop, i need to have things in my life i can count on
 
A lot of people in here hating Cinema Sins. A bit surprised. I always took their videos as fun, obviously not serious videos that are meant to be seen after you see the movie to laugh at some of the ridiculous movie and plot tricks you ignore while watching.

I never took CS as actual movie reviewers and critics. I think they fully know they are nitpicking the shit out of movies, that's the point.
There's plenty of genuinely funny and poignant film reviewers and critics on YouTube rather than the film equivalent of jamming a fork down your throat repeatedly and calling it food.
 
I honestly went off cinema sins a while back, for a couple reasons.

1) most of the points are for simple humour and aren't actually representative of the films quality which feels odd to count as a sin
2) I didn't agree with a lot of the actual points most of the time

For me cinema wins is the far superior channel, it's fun and I find it a much more thorough look at a films qualities and drawing out the positive aspects of it.

There are millions of negative personalities out there and yet wins tends to have a great amount of insight into the purpose of scenes and the meaning that should be drawn out in comparison. That's a much better quality to have for me then just shitting on everything for the sake of it.

Let's celebrate the good aspects of things and not always dwell on the bad (and often misinterpreted) stuff.
 
CinemaSins is, literally, just pointing out flaws in films... if you don't want your film on it, don't have flaws.

It's also comedy, I'm fairly certain those guys onlt nitpick because it's funny.

Yup they have even admitted to doing some of their favorite movies, and x amou t if sins doesn't mean a movie sucks. Most are pointed out for laughs.
 

LizardSnob

Neo Member
He sounds salty. Cinema sins is funny because we all take a suspension of disbelief into the theater when we go, it's part of seeing movies. It's then funny to go back and see someone point out just how ridiculous some movies are (Fast & Furious).

I don't think they are trying to convince people the movies suck, they are being entertaining by removing that suspension of disbelief and pointing out things about the movie.

^^^This right here. I don't and never have taken their videos seriously. I always assumed their nitpicking of random things is kind of just their shtick.
 

Nightbird

Member
Wait, Cinemasins is actually serious about the whole sins thing?

I always thought that it was supposed to be a joke (ex.: "scene does not contain a lapdance")

On the other hand, it has been a damn long while since I last watched one of their videos, so I don't know what their content is like now.
 
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