Patrick S.
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At least thirteen dead as van hits crowds in Barcelona
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You should.
Get it together man.Man, I've driven on and walked along the Ramblas when I was there on vacation with my wife and kid. In many ways, I identify myself more as a Spaniard than a German. This hits really really close to home for me. I've been in tears and had to leave the dinner table because I was upsetting my son. I'm torn on if I'm happy or sad they detained one of the perps. On one hand, he has a very long time in a jail cell ahead of him, which is one of the worst things I can imagine. But he gets to breathe, eat, drink, experience moments of happyness, while his innocent victims are now rotting pieces of flesh. It's so horrible, man
Stay safe BarcelonaGAF.
I was 10 minutes away from to the place where it happened. We were in the office about to leave and we started to get really scared with so many police cars and ambulance driving around. You could see people worried and crying in the streets calling their relatives that work in the zone to know if they are fine. I can't understand how this has happened in the most guarded zone of Barcelona. Las Ramblas and Sagrada Familia have been patrolled with policemen in heavy guns for months, and that didn't prevent these terrorist to did what they wanted. Horrendous. We can't even safely go to work tomorrow knowing that these murders are still lying around.
They're offering free rooms in most hotels for those people that had booked in hotels around the affected area.
This guy on twitter says he can provide food or stay for anyone who needs it if they can't get to their home or hotel. Figure someone like demosthenes might need it.
https://twitter.com/samuel_zama/status/898255544506503168
I can't do much from Tenerife but good luck to everyone affected. Stay safe
https://twitter.com/samuel_zama/status/898255544506503168
I can't do much from Tenerife but good luck to everyone affected. Stay safe
DarkJediKnight
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Unbelievable!!!
When will this stop? Stay Safe to those over there.
May God be with those who were taken today.
When will this stop? Stay Safe to those over there.
May God be with those who were taken today.
victreeb3l
Member
Fuck man, RIP to the victims
Patrick S.
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They just said on German TV that there are supposedly three Germans among the dead, too. I'm turning off the TV now.
I heard about this this morning and just...sigh.
My thoughts and prayers go out to the families and loved ones of the victims. Just fucking heartbreaking. It's hard to find positivity and hope when the world is just so god damned broken. It's easy to feel helpless and powerless. I try not to despair, though. That seems to get harder every day.
My thoughts and prayers go out to the families and loved ones of the victims. Just fucking heartbreaking. It's hard to find positivity and hope when the world is just so god damned broken. It's easy to feel helpless and powerless. I try not to despair, though. That seems to get harder every day.
Patrick S.
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paperboywriter
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This is a political issue and I don't have the resources to change it. I'm voting with this issue in mind but there is not much more I can do.
psychowave
Member
Do elaborate.
That's not true. You can never defeat extremism with more extremism. We have to show these terrorist garbage that our liberal societies will not waiver to their rotten ideology.
paperboywriter
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UpDownLeftRight
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Transparent af
Patrick S.
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Well, you can at least care.
-Plasma Reus-
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Boss★Moogle;246346910 said:
No mate.
These are all inspired attacks. ISIS isn't as powerful as you think, random people get inspired and do these horrible things.
I am saying these folks saw the coverage of a car hitting people, and decided to do it.
Carl2291
Member
You'll never stop this in modern Europe. Unfortunately, living with and dealing with the fear and potential of Islamic terrorism is now a way of life in many major European cities.
Bronetta
Ask me about the moon landing or the temperature at which jet fuel burns. You may be surprised at what you learn.
Stop beating around the bush and tell us what you really mean.
Stop being PC then?
paperboywriter
Member
It's hard to explain but those individual attacks really don't rile me up anymore. I just excepted them as normal. I could be more idealistic about it, but that's not really who I am. I see it the same way as a bus accident.
Seems weird to say it, but that's how I feel
Which is insane.
ramuh
Member
Another facet of globalism and the unprecedented movement of people.
MoonsaultSlayer
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We'll wait for your alt to agree with you.
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
Do you honestly believe people are afraid of going out? Because that is not true.
Audioboxer
Member
The people as you put it are beholden to the Government on many things surrounding extremism/violence. We as a 'people' cannot turn to vigilante justice and we need to keep it that way. The Government and intelligence services need to handle reports on individuals/groups and have the budgets and resources necessary to combat terrorism. When they fail, they fail the people.
There actually isn't much the people can do, other than move on and as often as possible share their feelings with politicians and the Government in charge. By moving on, one of the best things that can be done in open and free societies is the use of all of our rights to show the would be oppressors this IS how you live life. Fighting indoctrination is terribly difficult, but socially, it can be slowly eradicated (or lessened, it'll never fully be eradicated, you cannot get 7 billion people thinking 1:1). Everyone can play a small part in that, but as I opened with, a lot of the upper-level battles against terrorism are at a Governmental level.
Many Governments are taking terrorism more seriously, and yes, it is sad it's taking rising body counts to get to that. Theresa May has been catching holy hellfire for all her police cuts.
Kill Your Masters
Member
I didn't get the memo it seems.
People can still go out, yet be afraid while doing so.
paperboywriter
Member
I have heard people saying they are avoiding large gatherings. To be fair., not really smart people, but people nether the less.
Irrational fear is nothing new though.
Well thats pathetic and a major failure on our part to let this happen.
Sarcastic Poster
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95% of these cases, the terrorists are known to police. Surely something can be done.
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Explain the issue we are not addressing.
ramuh
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Probably not that much, but a large amount sure. But do you favor security over privacy and personal rights? Always a delicate balance in European Countries and the US.
I'm still more scared of flying than I am of terrorists.
Sarcastic Poster
Member
Indeed. I despise the idea of detaining people without due process, and I'd always take the side of liberty over security. There has to be some way of mitigating the threats though, other than stop selling arms to KSA which won't happen anytime soon.
paperboywriter
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Sharks here
UpDownLeftRight
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I'm having a real hard time trying to articulate my words. I feel furious. Furious at the attackers. Furious at the asshole politicians, both local and foreign, who are turning this into more fuel for their agendas. Furious at the posters here who are using this tragedy to slide some "I told you so" and "this is what being too PC gets you!".
Fuck.
Fuck.
psychowave
Member
13 people are dead and all my mom cares about is the fact that Catalonian politicians are speaking Catalan instead of Spanish when talking about the tragedy. It's infuriating.
To the people in Barcelona, don't worry, it will get easier.
I live less than 300m from where the bomb went off in Manchester three months or so back and it was really, really hard the first week.
Sleeping is difficult, and whenever you are out you are kind of scared. There will be loads of police sirens, helicopters and false alarms that will scare you, but after that first week, it starts to ease.
I mourn the dead in both Manchester and Barcelona, but after 8 or 9 days everything got back to normal. Everyone was drinking, going to work, eating and living their lives. The only difference is that our civic spirit is stronger than ever, and I'm sure it will for your great city.
Stay strong Barcelona.
I live less than 300m from where the bomb went off in Manchester three months or so back and it was really, really hard the first week.
Sleeping is difficult, and whenever you are out you are kind of scared. There will be loads of police sirens, helicopters and false alarms that will scare you, but after that first week, it starts to ease.
I mourn the dead in both Manchester and Barcelona, but after 8 or 9 days everything got back to normal. Everyone was drinking, going to work, eating and living their lives. The only difference is that our civic spirit is stronger than ever, and I'm sure it will for your great city.
Stay strong Barcelona.
Prayers are with the victims & family's of this senseless violence. Awful.
I assume your solution is exactly what ISIS want. But do go on and clarify.
I assume your solution is exactly what ISIS want. But do go on and clarify.
Patrick S.
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In Germany, doing a 24/7 observation of one potential terrorism "endangerer", as they call them here, takes the efforts of 125 officers working in shifts.
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
Resorting to heavy handed approaches appeals to raw emotions but it's not sound strategy. Spain already had to deal with ETA's terror for decades. At some point the government resorted to dirty tactics. It only resulted in needless suffering and further radicalisation.
Locate the source and attack it. And since this is a cultural issue, make sure that the venom of Islamism doesn't spread. Prosecute radical preachers, fight off salafism, leave no wiggle room for scummy individuals to shield their bigotry behind religious beliefs.
Locate the source and attack it. And since this is a cultural issue, make sure that the venom of Islamism doesn't spread. Prosecute radical preachers, fight off salafism, leave no wiggle room for scummy individuals to shield their bigotry behind religious beliefs.
Honey Bunny
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The only difference for those with no loved ones in the attack, perhaps.