That's what I mean, I doubt they'd make it.
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That's what I mean, I doubt they'd make it.
DangerMouse
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So good LOL
TetraGenesis
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They could have made the space/time warping issue less ridiculous this episode by having a red priestess at dragon stone suddenly have a vision of Jon and crew getting their asses beat by the dead army and convincing Dany that she had to go save them. The persuit could have taken days and Dany could have left a bit ahead of time.
I understand that the show can't have too many Starks alive at one time, but I think Benjen would have had better payoff if he reunited with Jon soon after getting to the wall. They could have had very interesting dialogue together before having Benjen ultimately die. Benjen could give up his horse to both Jon and Gendry (who refused to leave Jon's side) and his sacrifice would have made more sense. It would have also made more Sense how Jon survived if Gendry brought him back to the wall.
I understand that the show can't have too many Starks alive at one time, but I think Benjen would have had better payoff if he reunited with Jon soon after getting to the wall. They could have had very interesting dialogue together before having Benjen ultimately die. Benjen could give up his horse to both Jon and Gendry (who refused to leave Jon's side) and his sacrifice would have made more sense. It would have also made more Sense how Jon survived if Gendry brought him back to the wall.
I honestly don't think therw was any luring. Dany coming have the Night King a perfect opportunity to possess a greater steed than an undead horse. I'm sure the Night King would've killed all 3 dragons as they were decimating the army. Remember how they say Wall is supposedly built with magic that no White walker can cross it. Nobody ever said flying over the wall, which the Night King can do and probably now will be able to destroy the wall.
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
Someone needs to splice the helicopter crash from Black Hawk Down and the dragon getting got this ep.
DangerMouse
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Yup, they were great.
The Artisan
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i'm surprised they kept up for so long, though. even the walking dead cast can't beat odds like those and these zombies use weapons
What's disappointing to you? I'm really surprised at how much of an improvement this season has been.
Boombloxer
Member
That's what the armies are for. Big ass distraction while Jon goes on a small party mission to kill the NK. The armies are expendable. Doesn't matter how many undead there are if the necromancer/Lich is dead.
That was great.
No Fucks Given Hound is the best.
FinaruDensetsu
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Only way this would work was if this was Little Finger throughout this episode
Otherwise, it just wouldn't make sense for them to bicker in private. If they are just playing him, I will be impressed and sigh with relief.
LOL that gif is great.
Surprisingly great movie too, if you haven't seen it. It's Puss in Boots by Dreamworks.
RenegadeXV8
Banned
Cause if the dragons showed up while the wights were standing far away, they would have been easily destroyed and the white walkers would be in much more danger. In addition, the dragons were too distracted saving the crew to even pay attention to what the Night King was doing.
Night King probably wanted to kill all three. Drogon barely dodged the second spear.
That was great lol. Tormund kicks ass. I'm gonna steal this from reddit and post it here:
FinaruDensetsu
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I will definitely check it out. Thanks!
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
Wait, is Tormund going to KL don't even remember if they showed him loading the ship
All of this. Good article.
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
Sheeeeet just thought about the dragon over KL isn't one of the living ones.
Conkerkid11
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Or maybe Cersei's ballistas
Albino_Yeti
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So why exactly is the Dornish army just sitting at home doing nothing after their leaders were killed?
I am going to be honest: I legitimately forgot who Benjen was entirely and it took reading this thread to remind me.
Otherwise, I was scratching my head who the hell just popped up to save Jon and why.
Probably went to the Gengis Khan School of Dropping Everything Once Your Leader Dies
Otherwise, I was scratching my head who the hell just popped up to save Jon and why.
Probably went to the Gengis Khan School of Dropping Everything Once Your Leader Dies
No. He's holding down East Watch with Beric I think.
Drogo killed Vicerys. Makes sense their dragon namesakes would have to go at it and Drogon will kill him (again).
Jon is the worst in making smart decisions. Killing random undead instead of climbing on top of the dragon was monumentally stupid.
Also, so the night king really did not know that lake was frozen enought for the army to pass? He knew jon was there and a priority target since he saw jon at hardhorne, so, i dont know, send one undead to test the lake every 30 min or so??? They really explained the time they had by 5 wights and an army of undead not being abe to tell if a lake is frozen?
And I am holding off on the LF, sansa and arya extravaganza, since they can fix it all next episode. I mean, all season long, sansa was "dont trust LF" and she cannot navigate through this incredibly obvious ploy? That is not LF being smart, thats sansa being an idiot.
Best case is arya killing LF with the dagger he gave bran, hence why bran gave it to her, and she becoming him. That fixes it in my book.
Also, so the night king really did not know that lake was frozen enought for the army to pass? He knew jon was there and a priority target since he saw jon at hardhorne, so, i dont know, send one undead to test the lake every 30 min or so??? They really explained the time they had by 5 wights and an army of undead not being abe to tell if a lake is frozen?
And I am holding off on the LF, sansa and arya extravaganza, since they can fix it all next episode. I mean, all season long, sansa was "dont trust LF" and she cannot navigate through this incredibly obvious ploy? That is not LF being smart, thats sansa being an idiot.
Best case is arya killing LF with the dagger he gave bran, hence why bran gave it to her, and she becoming him. That fixes it in my book.
FinaruDensetsu
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They haven't gotten that teleportation tech that everyone else got their hands on.
I think this episode showed us why.
People kept saying how fucked the Night King was once Dany attacked them with her dragons, and in a few seconds we saw them kill maybe thousands of Wights. For a bit there we realized that the Night King was fuuuuuucked until he pulled out those spears.
Now the playing field is way more on the Night King's side again.
TimeEffect
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It feels like luring because we know TNK can see like 3ER a bit.
And we know that he had specific ice spears meant for dragons, and then chains to bring the dragon out of the water.
Yeah but they actively try to kill the 7.
So, if they were successful, then Dany would notice and fly away. They needed to be in a stale mate to allow Dany to make the rescue and serve the distraction.
Soodanim
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The big reveal was spoiled by some dumb cunt I used to work with sending me a picture of the final shot after they streamed it from America. Fucking hell, a twist like that and it was spoiled for me. There goes my one shot at that.
Luckily it didn't take away from the episode. Enjoyed it a lot, especially the walk and all those talks. Good stuff there. I always enjoy a scene where The Hound is himself. Some classic stuff from him there.
First thing that came to mind when the Night King did his thing was "OP as fuck".
Luckily it didn't take away from the episode. Enjoyed it a lot, especially the walk and all those talks. Good stuff there. I always enjoy a scene where The Hound is himself. Some classic stuff from him there.
First thing that came to mind when the Night King did his thing was "OP as fuck".
Most of their ridiculous conversations have been had in private, though. Why would they be pretending behind closed doors?
If it is revealed that they're playing Littlefinger, it wouldn't really excuse the shitty way they presented it up until now.
ComputerBlue
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Atomic Odin
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So I was left with a few questions there
1) Was that just a regular throw or does the night king has some magical physical prowess (if that makes sense) where he can throw for such absurd lengths with such power & precision.
2) I know their weapons are supposed to be magical but taking a dragon down with one hit?
3) So the wights can swim now? How did they managed to get those chains wrap around the dragon?
4) Can the night king just fly across the wall super quick now? Will the wall magic still work against him?
Usual teleportation complaints aside that was a solid episode. Drogon burning wight fools, Hound at his best (Dumb Cunt), the interactions between the A-team. Dragon dying mad me very sad though.
Also one more point, this episode confirms that any kind of fire has no effect whatsoever on the proper White Walkers, either regular or dragonfire. I'm getting the feeling Night King can only be killed if someone pulls out that shard of dragonglass the COTF had put in him.
1) Was that just a regular throw or does the night king has some magical physical prowess (if that makes sense) where he can throw for such absurd lengths with such power & precision.
2) I know their weapons are supposed to be magical but taking a dragon down with one hit?
3) So the wights can swim now? How did they managed to get those chains wrap around the dragon?
4) Can the night king just fly across the wall super quick now? Will the wall magic still work against him?
Usual teleportation complaints aside that was a solid episode. Drogon burning wight fools, Hound at his best (Dumb Cunt), the interactions between the A-team. Dragon dying mad me very sad though.
Also one more point, this episode confirms that any kind of fire has no effect whatsoever on the proper White Walkers, either regular or dragonfire. I'm getting the feeling Night King can only be killed if someone pulls out that shard of dragonglass the COTF had put in him.
Buba Big Guns
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Really enjoyed the episode but I wish they came up with a better reason to go north. So so dumb.
Also, Dany probably could've went nuclear and taken out the NK herself with three fucking dragons.
Also, Dany probably could've went nuclear and taken out the NK herself with three fucking dragons.
FinaruDensetsu
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I just assume Littlefinger is everywhere and hears everything. Or at least maybe the sisters feel that way and are being extra cautious.
Conkerkid11
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At what point did the episode prove the White Walkers were immune to fire?
They just did the same thing they did last time when they attacked Bran at the tree where they made the fire go away with their cold proximity thing. But direct dragon fire?
CambriaRising
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I'm guessing when the fire parts as the night king walks through it.
DangerMouse
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Yeah.
Not saying they've caught him doing it but Littlefinger is known to ease drop or at least hear more or less everything so it is still a possibility that they don't consider their conversations private.
molnizzle
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Night King walks through a column of dragonfire before throwing his spear. He just walks right through it. The fire disappears where he steps.
Imperfected
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The way the dragon's wound flared gave me the impression that it hit some sort of internal organ or gland that's responsible for the fire-breathing (and/or flight), but that's just the way my brain works.
It's entirely possible that dragons are just super hot inside and piercing one with something super cold causes an explosive reaction.
It's entirely possible that dragons are just super hot inside and piercing one with something super cold causes an explosive reaction.
TimeEffect
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Night king but no confirmation walkers can do the same
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Conkerkid11
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They walked through fire when they attacked Bran too. Doesn't say anything about direct dragon fire.
TimeEffect
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Yeah, he's definitely gonna need that lightbringer sword.
soundscream
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They all did it when attacking the tree in season 6. And the one who fought Jon at hardhome did it.
Buddy has a contingency plan for everything life throws at him, and yet his creators didn't seem like they had one too. Also, is there like a frozen Detroit up there in the deep North, because where the fuck did they get those chains? The WIldings didn't seem like the type to have smelters capable to make things like that.
Na, another White Walker did the same thing back in season 5.