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Microsoft is looking at using the Cloud to help Xbox One X games take up less space
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Savantcore
Unconfirmed Member
Oh God, not the cloud again.
Why is storage space such an issue for MS this gen? Even before all this 4K stuff. How big is Halo 5 again?
Why is storage space such an issue for MS this gen? Even before all this 4K stuff. How big is Halo 5 again?
RedlineRonin
Member
This makes sense and could certainly beneficial.
Also, they haven't even made good on the whole Crackdown "cloud" stuff yet, so let's see...
Also, they haven't even made good on the whole Crackdown "cloud" stuff yet, so let's see...
killatopak
Member
here we go again.
3rdamention
Member
At the expense of a console that always needs to be online, even for single player games?
Lilalaunebaer
Member
Nah
dancrane212
Member
Yeah, as long as I have the option to keep everything locally MS can do whatever they want with the cloud for storage.
Dee Dah Dave
Member
Cool idea, but obviously requires an internet connection. They would have to make it an option to either download the full game or use the 'online version'.
Though with how cheap large external drives are these days, I don't really see why it's a big issue. Just get a 5TB external for ~£150 and be done with it.
Though with how cheap large external drives are these days, I don't really see why it's a big issue. Just get a 5TB external for ~£150 and be done with it.
If you cared to read the OP, you'd realise its a ingenious idea.
Okami Haundo
Member
Makes sense considering Microsoft as a whole has invested a crap-ton of money into their Azure platform. IIRC, there was a rumor that Microsoft planned on letting Gamestop use the platform to facilitate trading in games with the original vision for the Xbox One, so they aren't against using the tech for Xbox.
If they do implement this, I hope they can find a way to make it not interfere with gameplay and loading times. I'm already picturing MGS4-style loading screens between sections of a game while you wait for the game to download.
If they do implement this, I hope they can find a way to make it not interfere with gameplay and loading times. I'm already picturing MGS4-style loading screens between sections of a game while you wait for the game to download.
Where does he say "power of the cloud"
This seems like a great idea. And we indeed need something for the future.
GHG
Member
Why not just proportionally increase the sizes of hard drives in your hardware and keep this as an "option" for those who might want it?
It's already bad enough as it is getting downloads on release day sometimes, I can't imagine being met with a "the cloud is too busy, please wait" message when the game is trying to load a new track or something.
If they are going to attempt this, the system better be robust or there will be a lot of frustrated gamers out there.
It's already bad enough as it is getting downloads on release day sometimes, I can't imagine being met with a "the cloud is too busy, please wait" message when the game is trying to load a new track or something.
If they are going to attempt this, the system better be robust or there will be a lot of frustrated gamers out there.
Phawx
Member
Storage space was never an issue.
The "Cloud" was MS trying to say that they could essentially increase the "power" of the xbox one by leveraging compute in the cloud for physics and stuff.
Like destruction of buildings physics would first attempt to have the cloud determine how a building would realistically crumble versus the tiny little Jaguar cores.
McStickenstein
Member
The Cloud II: Electric Boogaloo.
What can be done, stream 4K assets in real time? I don't think most places have infrastructure to support that... if you have a crap connection, load times are going to by abysmal, and loading is already bad enough of HDDs.
Computationally intensive stuff may be able to be offloaded, we will see how this stuff works in practice.
What can be done, stream 4K assets in real time? I don't think most places have infrastructure to support that... if you have a crap connection, load times are going to by abysmal, and loading is already bad enough of HDDs.
Computationally intensive stuff may be able to be offloaded, we will see how this stuff works in practice.
Yearsoflurking
Member
Smh early thread shitting
Anyway this is a great idea as long as it's optional of course
Conkerkid11
Member
Storage space is cheaper for us than going over ISP data limits because Microsoft decided streaming game content is important.
Unless I'm misunderstanding things, this type of technology should probably be put on hold until the internet stops being so shitty.
Unless I'm misunderstanding things, this type of technology should probably be put on hold until the internet stops being so shitty.
fastest finger
Member
"....people are more comfortable saying Ive done playing that, let me push that back to the cloud...."
People? As in human beings? From Earth?
Ok.....
People? As in human beings? From Earth?
Ok.....
What magic? Cloud (azure) is real and if they can find way by using Azure to reduce the footprint that sounds like a great idea.
irrotational
Member
Thankyou, some people psoting seem to be like pavlov's dog and as soon as the word "cloud" is mentioned they immediately spam a one liner into the submit box and click away.
For some games and uses it makes sense to have a partial delete, where parts of the game unlikely to be used are deleted from the hdd.
I have the same concerns you do.
Also, not just the bigger hard drive space, but it just seems crazy how much space MS games take up. I mean Halo 5 and Gears 4 seem to take up considerably more space than other similar games. Granted I'm not a developer so I'm talking out of my ass, but it seems like MS Studio games are "bloated" in that context.
lifeexpectancy
Member
Storaage space is an issue on both consoles dude. Unless you think every 3rd party AAA game is magically smaller on PS4/Pro.
Transparent.
JigglesBunny
Banned
Compressing the 30GB of language files every game loves to pack in would help too but hey, who am I to deny the infinite power of the Cloud?
CrunchyFrog
Member
This is a non-starter with so many ISP's now implementing even home internet data caps.
For foreseeable future this could ever be optional. Real time asset streaming would be horrific if your internet wasn't fast enough and stable.
Concepts good but this isn't going to solve the problem in a meaningful way for many people today or anytime soon.
They have to realy delivered anything of note leveraging Cloud yet despite lots of early hype.
Working on this stuff for the future when it's mass market applicable is fine but they're mentioning it too early IMHO.
Concepts good but this isn't going to solve the problem in a meaningful way for many people today or anytime soon.
They have to realy delivered anything of note leveraging Cloud yet despite lots of early hype.
Working on this stuff for the future when it's mass market applicable is fine but they're mentioning it too early IMHO.
Assuming they actually do anything with it this time around. We've seen this smoke blowing from Microsoft already in case you forgot.
Rellik
Member
That's an issue with your country (mostly US) having crap internet. I don't want companies like MS, Sony etc to hold back because you guys can't keep up. If something can be enhanced with the Internet then go all out.
Leyasu
Banned
Lol. Someone didn't read the OP.
What the fuck is happening in here?
This could potentially be a good idea if thought out and you had options on what and when.
Okami Haundo
Member
I mean... the wording is wrong but the concept seems to be spot-on. People with large libraries of digital games aren't usually storing the entire thing on their internal/external HDD at any given time.
Savantcore
Unconfirmed Member
Except that streaming 4K assets isn't really feasible - in terms of bandwith and data usage caps. Also consider the fact that it maintains the issues with the 'cloud for power' idea years back - it alienates every user who cannot rely on their internet. If games start relying on the cloud for game installs then it would make it unplayable for a lot of people. They'll have to stick with installing the entire game at once and as such the issue hasn't been solved at all.
Huh? This is directly related to storage issues, something that's been prevalent with MS this gen. I know it's a different usage of the tech but it's still The Cloud™.
Did I mention third-party games? I mentioned Microsoft and Halo and 100GB+ games. Try reading and thinking before jumping on the defence next time.
Mass_Pincup
Banned
I hope it's going to stay an optional feature.
It can be great but can develop issues in the future.
It can be great but can develop issues in the future.
Alpha Phoenix
Member
I like the sound of that. Could be a major thing.
AyaisMUsikWhore
Member
This is actually a cool idea. If the game could save 50GB of a 100GB game file in the cloud, wow that's super neat. I'd love to see how this is implemented and how it would work especially if you have no internet.
TharpDaddy
Member
Jesus neogaf has gotten worse than reddit with people not reading the op and just shit posting trying to get their joke in.
This is just data streaming. I don't have high hopes, especially with speed and bandwidth issues in the US
This is just data streaming. I don't have high hopes, especially with speed and bandwidth issues in the US
Stopped being shitty in US yeah.
If you think internet infrastructure will get better in the United States with a meme in the White House and a guy who supports dismantling net neutrality in the FCC then I have a cloud to sell you.
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