Christocolus
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DigitalFoundry: RotTR Xbox One X vs PS4 Pro First Look Graphics Comaprison
- Thread starter Colbert
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TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
I can see if I can get direct capture if ya want
Just that we can put those posts to the rest:
Good. This site doesn't need posters like that.
Wishmaster92
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Colbert
Banned
Please see OP. Its all in there in the Updates!
I thought the middle pic was the high resolution mode, not the enhanced mode.
Crayon
Member
Those are blown up pretty big. If you are playing the game normally some stuff will be harder to see.
MaulerX
Member
ronaldthump
Member
its clear from those shots that they also worked on the X1X ediiton a bit - I mean even the PC doesn't have that much blood on her face.
Hmm, X1x has no DOF?
Colbert
Banned
Can you please stop ... this is too much for me ... we have still 2 months before the console releases ...
just kidding, make more of these!
They should take a deep breath and look at the specs.
Its obvious that XBX is going to look better.
Has a better GPU and more RAM.
Its really obvious that all multi-platform titles are going to look better on XBOX unless theres a parity. (until PS5 comes out)
MosquitoSmasher
Member
Hold the fuck up, it actually rivals the PC version?
It IS odd that that other comparison picture someone here posted barely showed any differences.
Couldn't either company who has lots of marketing deals, make that those games looks better on their console?
I think they'll add DOF in the future. At least they should. They probably just dialed it back to get a cleaner demo.
Why are some differences so much bigger, like here?
And some hardly noticable, like here?
I'm guessing it could have to do with the amount being rendered on screen. The first comparison is showing more of Lara's body plus some background detail that needs to be rendered and stored in memory while the second is mostly just her face, allowing the system to focus more on less. Think of it this way: if I gave you one bucket of paint, it would look better if you used it all on one wall versus stretching that same amount of paint to cover all the walls in your house.
It's highly doubtful that the Pro could use these updated textures. The Pro only has .5GB of extra memory and most of that is likely used to store the larger framebuffer from the higher resolution.
There's a good chance that it's both.
I can't stand it when people act like devs don't care. I'm sure the developers care, but do they have the schedule, budget, or manpower to add these enhancements to the PC version is the real question. I hope they do add these improvements to the PC version but if they don't, it's not because they don't care.
Sir Vilhelm
Member
Why are you yelling at us?
MosquitoSmasher
Member
I seriously hope we're never going to see that man, that would be just so messed up. Take RDR for example, despite Sony having the deal back then with PS3, the 360 version was clearly superior. It should be fine.
This kinda stuff is calling for that MJ eating popcorn gif to be honest. I find those kind of comments just entertaining as hell.
I'm not yelling at you. I'm making a sarcastic jibe at the people that are crapping their pants because of some lighting and texture changes. Did people actually think the Xbox X was just going to launch without anything going for it?
I have a feeling the console war is now going to be back to tween levels of embarrassment really soon.
Irishonion
Member
I wonder how long we will have xbox one x for before next gen. I would like to get one maybe next year. That looks pretty nice. Wish I could play origins on it.
PositiveGamer
Member
You are telling me they didn't have the time to port moving trees to the PC. Please. They just didn't care because that was not where their main sales were. The devs maybe cared, but the company as a whole did not.
It's not like we are talking about a 6 month process here. It was pretty shitty of them to not have the definitive version on PC.
aygomyownroad
Member
Looks great. Not yet played it so will be nice to jump in.
No doubt the Xbox One X is going to be amazing graphics and power wise and especially with the supersampling.
If I had to pick an older game to be given the treatment I would love to have The New Order and The Old Order given a lick of paint.
Also would love to see a remastered Viva Piñata, 4K would be amazing in the game
No doubt the Xbox One X is going to be amazing graphics and power wise and especially with the supersampling.
If I had to pick an older game to be given the treatment I would love to have The New Order and The Old Order given a lick of paint.
Also would love to see a remastered Viva Piñata, 4K would be amazing in the game
RedAssedApe
Banned
4k cb + 4k textures vs. 1080p
Looks about right to me. Similar to how the game would look if you compared 4k mode on pro vs. enriched except better. 4k mode was the preferred mode by most on ps4 pro due to how sharp the image quality was.
MosquitoSmasher
Member
I might actually go for that one then. Depending on if I can really spot the difference between native and C4K or not at all. I wonder how significantly enriched the visuals are too compared to Native 4K.
chronic_archaic
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Looks super good.
Fredrik
Member
If I didn't have three 144hz screens for my PC I would be pissed that I just bought a 1080ti less than 2 months ago. :/
98% of the game's scenes are real-time including the pictured scenes. Game has amazing cutscenes.
anothertech
Member
Yep. They obviously added textures to the Xbonx version as well, as the pc version doesn't even match it, so it's no longer a power matter, just updated assets. 1080ti in sli won't even give you those textures so there's that.
It's also really funny to see all the guys that couldn't see the difference between Xbone and ps4 upgrades for the last 3 years suddenly find the smallest details so visually apparent and such a big deal lol.
Be interesting to see how Wolfenstein runs. My 1070 still shits the bed on that poor ass game if I try to move up to 1440p. It sucks because that is the only way image quality is decent. I bet they could get the X running it well if they tried.
I don't think it's technically checkerboard rendering. They're using a similar but different technique. It doesn't seem very clean compared to CBR.
Jesus is indeed the first word that came to mind when reading that post.
To be fair, they had it rough since 2013, now it's the opposite. And history will repeat itself when the PS5 comes out etc.
MosquitoSmasher
Member
Anthem for sure. But Ori 2 is only on Xbox and PC. So for comparisons it's not all that interesting.
Another one showing a clear difference:
https://scontent.fopo1-1.fna.fbcdn....=87a10b0fa0eabeb2a3caacc07dde6616&oe=5A2D1C31
You must be a blast at parties. "WHY IS EVERYONE EXCITED AND HAVING FUN"
Head.spawn
Junior Member
I wouldn't place too much emphasis on the dirt/blood. That's likely just an artistic choice there because I'm pretty sure that decal is in PC and Pro versions. Or I thought it was anyways, it's been a while since I played through on Pro.
Are these from the DF Patreon videos?
I really need to sub soon.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
no DoF and FXAA on XOX? and both are running at same framerate here?
You have no idea how hard something may be to port on any platform, no idea at all. If Square Enix reaches out to them to enhance the 1X version and only the 1X version, with a specific budget and schedule, you think Nexxis can just hit some buttons and update the PC version all on their own?
Again I really hope these updates reaches the PC, especially HDR, but if they don't, it's not because Nexxis doesn't give a shit. With how much effort they have put into every version they worked on, it's clear that they give all the shits possible.
Regarding the difference between XBO and PS4, I remember there was a thread where people talked about more grass in the PS4 version of GTAV.
Fredrik
Member
The Pro runs it at 1080p?? That explains a lot. And makes XBX even more impressive if it can increase both resolution and visuals over Pro on a game like this without killing the framerate.
Risk Breaker
Member
Why are some differences so much bigger, like here?
And some hardly noticable, like here?
Looks like there is no depth of field blur on XBX in the first scene, which inevitably blurs the image (as seen on PC as well). That explains the huge difference in sharpness that is not there in the second picture.
It seems history could be repeating itself with RDR the Neogaf comparison thread for the last game was absolutely legendary.
It wasn't a big deal as long as you didn't look at the PS4 versions
Just as back in the PS360 days as long as you didn't see the 360 versions the PS3 versions looked OK.
This is the nature of the beast. Now the other 'side' gets to pretend they can't see any differences at all. It's funny and silly but thats some gamers for you.
That wouldn't affect the clarity difference on the jacket though.
Yeah any version could have the extra details if they modified it. X1X isnt magically making new textures and lighting. The Ps4Pro/PC could have the same look if they added the modified assets. This may be just be a milk job to get more Tomb Raider sales lol.
Why does this bother you? If you really dont care then what are you doing here?
I wouldn't say that with 100% confidence yet. Yes Xbox one X games will likely always have the higher settings on average, but there is still the matter of checkerboarding with many multiplat tittles.
As John did mention briefly in this video, the checkerboarding implemention in the Xbox one X enriched visuals mode was a step down from the PS4 Pro. Remember that the Pro does have that hardware level ID buffer that can help with checkerboarding quality.