Leyasu
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DigitalFoundry: RotTR Xbox One X vs PS4 Pro First Look Graphics Comaprison
- Thread starter Colbert
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lol fucking awesome
Exactly
Fredrik
Member
Why would you just go through it 1 time? I got through it 4 times and was like "OMG, that was awesome!" and hasn't been able to forget about it even up to this day. I also had the season pass for it because I loved the game so much and I went back to do the awesome Baba Yaga content 4 times too.
(This is not me, I'm just responding to your strange post with another strange post. Different strokes for different folks and all that.)
And then a year after that it'll be the XB2. Shit is all fucked up now.
Chasing hardware specs is one game I don't think is really worth playing. That's why I haven't bought a Pro and I'm still rockin the launch PS4.
I think it's great to give people more options in the hardware space and I have no skin in this but I feel compelled to post counter-points because people are acting like the XBX is some kind of game-changer. Microsoft has the ability to change its fortunes but I think they need to invest more in first party projects. When they do that and stop cancelling shit like Phantom Dust I will probably be tempted to pick up one of their boxes.
VanCityGamer
Member
I mean it's all personal taste, but the power gap between XB1 and PS4 didn't equate to anything significant in my experience. I could barely tell the difference in most third party games. Sony first party is always the best regardless of console power though.
sure. but you need a console that does not exist to have 21:9 or 32:9 Tomb Raider
We're moving goal posts too much >_<
I'm just saying that it would seem nothing short of a ~$400 GPU can do what the X1X is doing in terms of visuals (at 4k) + performance in this game at the moment. I'm kinda hoping to be proved wrong though. Perhaps by someone with a 1060 / 580 running at similar settings.
RedAssedApe
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don't worry guys. this will have a happy ending and end up with sony enabling...crossplay
Fredrik
Member
Nice! Last years model right? I have no idea what to get at the moment but I hope it's possible to find one around 1500. I saw a 2017 Samsung QLED which looked awesome but then someone here talked about it and explained how it sometimes dropped the connection and just showed a black screen with 4K60hz content from his Pro. So nope, not touching that. LG seems great though, everyone seem to love them.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Putting the extra RAM to good use with the higher resolution textures.
The difference isn't big enough for me to want to get a XBX personally but good to see developers putting in some extra effort instead of 1 : 1 ports.
The difference isn't big enough for me to want to get a XBX personally but good to see developers putting in some extra effort instead of 1 : 1 ports.
Colbert
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if you have limited money go for a 2016 B6, if you have more budget look out for a 2017 C7. Btw both models have the best reviews on rtings.com
You may also look into this thread: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1323499
pretty done
Member
They're actually hilarious, if they all follow this same trend.
Fredrik
Member
Cool thanks for the tip
It said "Displaying static images results in temporary image retention" on the downsides in the review there, is that something you're noticed and is it a real problem for games?
Edit: I'll check the TV thread, lets keep this on topic.
ThatOneGrunt
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These discussions are starting to feel weirdly political in nature lately. There'a lot of distrust, misinformation, and whataboutism going on here.
Unless I missed it, no one claimed the PS4 or Pro can't handle games with great texture quality. I said that it's doubtful that the Pro could receive all the same higher resolution textures seen in the 1X version. It's been discussed and mentioned multiple times from people who analyze games for a living that the Pro will be less likely to receive higher resolution textures (or 4K textures) seen in many PC ports. This is what I was talking about and still stand by it regardless of how good some textures look in any specific game.
While I agree that the PC will still be the best looking version of games, why wouldn't devs use higher resolution textures on the 1X when they are already created for the PC?
No, it's not too soon. More accurately all 3rd party titles should look better on the 1X. There is technically no reason, CBR or not, for a game to look better on the Pro. However there could be resource, scheduling, budget, etc. reasons to why the 1X version looks similar to the Pro version with no or minimal upgrades. In the end though, there is no technical reason why the 1X shouldn't look better than the Pro version. This is no different than knowing all 3rd party games would at least look as good and should look better on the OG PS4 over the XBO port. We didn't need to have both consoles in our hands before we knew the PS4 would receive better versions. It's the same here but for the 1X.
Bwahahahaha.
SenjutsuSage
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Wow, thx for the clarification.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
The coolest part for One X owners is that these are early upgrades.
Games being built with One X in mind from scratch will really show what it's capable of.
Games being built with One X in mind from scratch will really show what it's capable of.
It's not the same because back then you had people still parroting the lies of Microsoft spokesman about there not being a 30% power difference in favor of the console that cost $100 less. It was an abnormal situation fueled by officially sanctioned fud.
A console that comes out a year later and costs at least $100 more being 40% more powerful is normal.
I can't stop thinking of Halo 6. 343 gonna blow it out!
Yes but comparisons on upgrades are cool. I want to see Forza Horizon 3 compared between XS and Enhanced X.
comparisons of future multiplats where the Dev doesn't hold back and let's loose all PC stuff they can on X will be a treat as well to see compared to Pro and OG consoles
AppleSautts
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Me coming into DF threads for the next year:
Thats a Greay Area
Member
You're on point there.
Heck, Mark Cerny said that the Pro sharing the same assets as the base PS4 was intentional and a positive. He said that the higher resolution would be all that is needed to show off the art.
GarthVaderUK
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Holy shit!
Crayon
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Maybe things will be more lively when theres more tension around a newer game. This one is kind of awkward.
Thebonehead
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It's been that way as far back as i remember.. and I'm old.
I remember the c64 \ spectrum \ atari 800xl wars, Amiga \ Atari ST, Snes \ MegaDrive, PS1 \ Dreamcast ad infinitum.
You'll see a lot of positional shifting in these threads and that's down, in part to cognitive dissonance.
To quote simply psychology
Now I'm a good example of this in play. I have spare capital, so have Xbox1, PS4, WiiU and a High end PC.
I bought the XB1 and PS4 at launch, and played more of the PS4 as I wanted to play the best versions of the games. However, my son got an XB1 as his friends were playing on that and as I bought digital he could gameshare with me.
So I was in a position of playing on the system I didn't want to, and to that end the cognitive dissonance kicked in for me and reflected out as: I can live with the loss in resolution; dropped frames here and there dont matter too much; I don't need ambient occlusion etc.
Now people that have invested time and effort in the Xbox ecosystem will have Cognitive Dissonance bounce in the opposite direction and will feel fully justified for their purchase due to the incoming uplift.
You see Cognitive Dissonance at work in the list wars that are rearing up now all over the place as people try to justify to themselves and others the validity of their decision.
SenjutsuSage
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Imagine Red Dead Redemption 2 on this console...
It looks really good on the X1X but why did they get rid of DoF?
You can see more of the textures in screenshots but the actual game suffers...
At least they kept the 3 different options.
The question going forward tho will be just how much work devs will put towards it. Pro's Rise also had a bunch of work on it but look at how mixed it is now.
You can see more of the textures in screenshots but the actual game suffers...
At least they kept the 3 different options.
The question going forward tho will be just how much work devs will put towards it. Pro's Rise also had a bunch of work on it but look at how mixed it is now.
And yet this thread is just as trash as those were. Same amount of downplaying but it's even dumber because, as you said, it's year later and $100 more expensive. Some people still can't handle simple common sense shit like that though. Ah well, makes for decent entertainment.
Thats a Greay Area
Member
Why would DF degrade the PC graphics?
Its in 4K mode, where perhaps DOF was too expensive.
There is another super pretty mode where everything is cranked up to the max and the game runs with a temporal solution to get to 4K
Jaguar Victory
Member
I don't like the DOF to be honest.
No doubt
I did as soon as the X was announced. Day one.
CamHostage
Member
To me, that's going to be the good thing about these incremental consoles, that the difference will often be so minor I won't care at all on my 32" old 1080P set but then those who've upgraded won't be bitching about how their fancy new 4K HDR monolith isn't being taken total advantage of; and for the both of us, when a new rendering technique or hefty computing drain happens in a future game, the developers can try best they can to make it good (same as they do for low-spec PCs) but for the sticklers, there's an upgraded box that they can pay for and get perfection and shut the heck up.
I like looking at a few of these graphical comparisons now and again to see what neat new developments or high-fidelity work is being done in super-expensive games, but it's nice to have the latitude now in the console market to not have it affect me unless I choose to look beyond.
Where it'll affect me is if there never is a PlayStation 5 / Xbox Two and we never again see a "real" generational leap. But with how computing is developing, there are questions of whether any magic box like that is on the horizon anyway...
Bustanen
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Xbox exclusive textures. Hopefully the PC version gets a patch too.
For Xbox this is all super interesting, theyve clearly got a really robust solution that allows the hardware to be changed without causes huge compatibility issues.
Hopefully it will just smear over those cross-gen games as it doesnt matter which console you play on as th games will function of both anyway.
The interesting part is that MS could easily encourage developers to put even more demanding configurations in their games , so the game will function even better on whatever the next the next gen console is, so we get more than just backwards compatibility, but the titles have been built with the foresight that it may well be played on a machine 10x more powerful
Hopefully it will just smear over those cross-gen games as it doesnt matter which console you play on as th games will function of both anyway.
The interesting part is that MS could easily encourage developers to put even more demanding configurations in their games , so the game will function even better on whatever the next the next gen console is, so we get more than just backwards compatibility, but the titles have been built with the foresight that it may well be played on a machine 10x more powerful
It wouldnt surprise me if they just make the Windows 10 version play anywhere = with the Xbox version
Just one example screenshot including PC:
That's the absolute worst example, lol. I was wondering how the Pro version suddenly turned ugly.
The best part of the upgrade is the increased use of TresFx hair physics on X while maintaining performance. It really sets things apart, making the PS version look stiff by comparison.
That's would be the 60fps version, on PC
TheDeftone
Member
Not really imo.
Well, it depends....
DOF turned off:
DOF turned on:
Screenshots taken from the PS4 PRO version (performance mode vs enhanced graphics).
I also played the PC port and turned DOF off because it`s implementation in some areas doesn`t look good imo.
Thebonehead
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MosquitoSmasher
Member
That could definitely be it and that's why we can't really conclude anything yet. When/if we get similar differences to these with all the upcoming games however, then things will definitely become more clear.
Could be a bug, not added yet, or cut for performance reasons. The port is still in development, so DOF could be added back later.
I see people going ape shit on twitter, YouTube, gaf. Cool that the Xbox one version has added graphical features . The thing you have to point out here is that the game is locked 30fps on it unfortunately with those settings while I'm 60 or up on the pc version . Is that too hard to understand ?