I'm still bummed about Kaede but man... I'm absolutely convinced that Kodaka is a master class VN writer. Like damn, mad respect to him. All of that obnoxious recycling of tropes was intentional. This game is 100% antithetical to DR3 and amazing for it.
V3 obliterates ZTD and AA6 tbh. DanganRonpa is hands down the best of the 3 big VN series.
Kodaka a master class writer?
What a great bumpKodaka a master class writer?
Kodaka a master class writer?
In the context of ZTD shitting the bed, then yes.
I did say VN writer, did I not? It's not like the bar is particularly high, and Kodaka clearly ranks among the best in that regard. You know, I was thinking about throwing a snide remark about ZTD, but ZTD kind of embarrasses itself so it's pointless.
So ZTD "shitting the bed" magically makes Kodaka a master class VN writer? LOL. The fact that you both even mentioned ZTD says it all really.
The whole high school students theme for Danganronpa is fitting considering Kodaka has the writing skills on par with one. A master class VN writer? Please.
Sorry for the bump but the demo thread made me curious. Considering how people are really paying attention to how female characters are treated these days, do you think we could expect any controversy from this game.
People are gonna lose their absolute shit over Kaede alone.
I can't wait, tbh.
From a purely mainstream perspective, yeah, it's niche. From a general game enthusiast's perspective I'd say enough people know about the series.I'm just wondering if Danganronpa is niche enough to escape any mainstream controversy. Like could you imagine the shitstorm if The Last of Us Part 2 pulled something like this?
People are gonna lose their absolute shit over Kaede alone.
I can't wait, tbh.
Hell, check the first page of this thread.
Everyone was already set to riot over Kaede's death and there are still people really bitter over that bait-and-switch.
That being said, how this game treats Monophanie will be a way bigger shit-storm than any hand-wringing over Kaede.
Would you mind elaborating? I've mainly only gotten the big stuff spoiled so I'm curious?
It's TV.So I'm reading the wiki for this and I'm kind of confused.
The wiki says the first two games wereBut this thread is saying they wereliterally just videogames. "Tsumugi also revealed that everything that took place in the Hope's Peak Academy Saga were nothing more than fictional events from a very popular anime and game franchise known as Danganronpa."the first two TV show seasons.
My question is....
It's TV.
Thank you.
Would you mind elaborating? I've mainly only gotten the big stuff spoiled so I'm curious?
Actually, either interpretation is correct, it's not made clear by the text.
In Chapter 4, Monotaro gets amnesia and thinks Monophanie is his wife and acts as an abusive husband. She also 'gets pregnant' with a giant insect that kills her Alien-style in that chapter's execution.
Actually, either interpretation is correct, it's not made clear by the text.
In Chapter 4, Monotaro gets amnesia and thinks Monophanie is his wife and acts as an abusive husband. She also 'gets pregnant' with a giant insect that kills her Alien-style in that chapter's execution.
While that's pretty bad I still feal that promising to have a strong female lead only to switch it out for another milquetoast generic dude is probably going to rub more people the wrong way. Like it's combining the Raiden switch and woman in refrigerator all in one.
I'm honestly still not sure if I'm going to get the game. The chapter 1 twist really soured my opinion on it. Like I was actually going to buy the PS4 ports of all the games, then I saw that and it just about killed my interest in this franchise. I say this as someone who actually didn't mind the 3 anime for the most part.
Even though I fucking love this game, this game is going to be a thing, thats for sure.
While that's pretty bad I still feal that promising to have a strong female lead only to switch it out for another milquetoast generic dude is probably going to rub more people the wrong way. Like it's combining the Raiden switch and woman in refrigerator all in one.
I'm under the impression that anything involving the DR 1 and 2 cast are "fictional". So DR1, 2, UDG and the anime aren't "real". So DR4 would be the first season of the reality TV show.
Both the OT thread reactions and Twitch stream fallout from Chapter 1 is going to be delicious.
Although I think the bait and switch may have gone over better had it been done in a later chapter of the game so fans didn't feel completely shafted by the trial's outcome.
Why are we spoiler tagging things in the spoiler thread again?
Probably not,Tsumugi outright says she's only cosplaying as HPA saga characters because that's the universe they're 'in' for that season (mostly as a save for why she doesn't cosplay as new characters, although that still doesn't explain why any DR3 characters never show up). Also, Saihara's case files are past DanganRonpa cases and the shift from illustrations to actual pictures is gradual, meaning there are at least a couple more 'completely fictional' DRs.
The real reason that DR3 characters did not show up was budget. Kodaka stated that he really did intend for DR3 characters to also show up in the Chapter 6 trial, but just getting the DR1 and 2 voices back made the budget really high, plus having to create all new art assets for all the DR3 characters made him decide to not do it in the end.
I'm honestly still not sure if I'm going to get the game. The chapter 1 twist really soured my opinion on it. Like I was actually going to buy the PS4 ports of all the games, then I saw that and it just about killed my interest in this franchise. I say this as someone who actually didn't mind the 3 anime for the most part.
Yeah I mean the only thing Kaede has going for her is that she's a girl. Shuichi is better than her.
Anyway don't skip this game for something like that, it's probably the best DR game
Yeah sorry but I feel they topped it with Hajime. Maybe there's more to it but nothing I've read about this guy has me remotely interested in finding out more about him. Combine that with the cheap shock value and getting rid of a female protagonist for another plain dude. It just really killed my hype for this game.
Like the TV twist that seemed to split the fandom? Didn't bother me in the slightest. But the thing with Kaede just really rubs me the wrong way. Like I doubt they had any malicious intent beyond trolling the fanbase but I don't think they realize how killing off a female lead to motivate a dude comes off as. Never mind the fact they've done that TWICE already.
Re: Kaede as the main protagonist
What exactly do you find makes him interesting? Because if it's theI don't really feel it's that compelling especially compared to the similar twist in 1 and 2.he volunteered for it twist
I think that maybe the crux of it. I'm getting tired of the repeating story beats mixed in with the bitter taste from the Kaede twist.
Like I admit I haven't watched the full game and I'm just going through second hand information. Maybe if I play the full game I'll actually love it. But I can't find the motivation to want to play it. I spoiled 1 and 2 before playing them as well and had no problem getting through them. This one, I just don't know.
Well if you're so mad about Kaede then just don't play the game I guess. Doesn't seem like anyone is going to convince you otherwise
Similarly, the ending is a lot of fun to play through - you can see my brain melting post-by-post in the import thread - but when all is said and done it feels hollow. Kodaka goes full meta, but the point of the meta is basically "unnecessary sequels are bad". I'm sure he feels that way, and I'm not knocking his choice to make a story around that idea, but it also feels kind of obvious? Like if you're gonna do meta in a series, that's like meta 101. So I was going through chapter 6, enjoying the line-to-line writing and the use of the medium to tell the story, but also thinking "man, this really is a nothingburger of a plot."
Part of me thinks that Kodaka should have pulled a Persona 3 Portable and had Kaede available as a protagonist that didn't get offed in Chapter 1 via a second playthrough that boasted some similiarities but had enough unique content to justify playing through the game twice. Have Shuichi wind up as Chapter 1's victim instead.
If he felt really ambitious he could have incorporated twists to the murders in subsequent chapters that subverted expectations based on their original outcomes only to result in different victims/murderers in Kaede's playthough and then have the two endings tie into one another in some fashion (via alternate universe shenanigans). Perhaps have only one character wind up surviving to the end in both playthroughs and make them the ultimate mastermind... might have wound up faring better over the long run than simply having Tsumugi roleplay as the entire cast of DR1 and DR2.