Bobby Roberts
Banned
Whaddya mean "even throw in," that's one of his best adaptations.
Don't forget:
1408
The Night Flier
Christine
Creepshow
Dolores Claiborne
Apt Pupil
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IT - Official Trailer 1
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Whaddya mean "even throw in," that's one of his best adaptations.
Don't forget:
1408
The Night Flier
Christine
Creepshow
Dolores Claiborne
Apt Pupil
Yeah, there's been a lot of bad King adaptations, but over time the good have really piled up, too. And I need to see quite a few from that list.
I just checked my local theater and they're showing IT on two screens; they only have seven screens total.
Last time they did that was for Civil War. Thinkin' they anticipate a lot of business from it.
I just checked my local theater and they're showing IT on two screens; they only have seven screens total.
Last time they did that was for Civil War. Thinkin' they anticipate a lot of business from it.
More_Badass
Member
Does Storm of the Century count?
And we might have to add Gerald's Game to the list if it's good.
Nappuccino
Member
Wasn't Storm of the Century written directly for the screen?
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Yeah, Storm of the Century was an original. I think it was his first miniseries screenplay. It was one of the marketing hooks.
King on television is usually not great, but Salem's Lot was one of the earliest adaptations of his work, adapted for TV, and is considered one of the better efforts, too.
(RIP Tobe Hooper)
King on television is usually not great, but Salem's Lot was one of the earliest adaptations of his work, adapted for TV, and is considered one of the better efforts, too.
(RIP Tobe Hooper)
It was. I'm a fan of it, love the atmosphere that show was able to create.
Yes you're right that the miniseries was probably a lot due to budget constraints. Just to be absolutely clear, I hold the miniseries in no great affection and think it's very poor in a lot of ways. I'm just no great fan of horror that is 'ramp everything up to 11 and leave absolutely nothing scary to the imagination and have Pennywise constantly dash across the screen while shaking his head side to side'. That isn't really horror to me.
I disagree that the only thing that matters is whether the modern Hollywood horror movie traits are executed well. If you don't like those traits to begin with then it doesn't really matter how well executed they are, it's just better execution of trends you think the horror genre fundamentally works better without.
At the end of the day, like I said, my favourite horror films are Rosemary's Baby and The Shining. You could maybe chuck The Others and Misery on there too. Clearly I like the slow burn stuff with a focus on tension more than action heavy stuff.
Anyway I was aware that mixed comments about such a highly anticipated movie would be pulled apart so I look forward to seeing what you think of it tomorrow!
Bobby Roberts
Banned
That wasn't specifically about Horror, or even "Hollywood Horror" (almost all of it ends up going through "hollywood" whether it starts as indie or not) but filmmaking in general: A movie succeeds if it does what it's trying to do. Execution is what matters. That doesn't mean I can't still dislike what they were going for, but I can't say they did it poorly, or that it was poorly done. Just that I don't like it because it decided it didn't want to be the thing I wanted it to be. That's more a reflection of me than it is the movie's success/failure as a film, though.
It wasn't really "pulled apart" just that I don't think the film being made in 2017 and using the tools available in 2017 is automatically a negative, or that hitting it for not being subtle/sophisticated is a fair hit, considering the source material is also not really subtle or sophisticated. That's why I brought up execution in the first place: If nobody involved is really trying for "subtle" then saying "The movie wasn't very subtle" isn't much of a criticism.
But if the filmmakers do botch the execution, I'm gonna call it out, yeah.
elrechazado
Banned
I love hearing that the father scene and Henry Bowers are "over the top". In the book they were fucking unhinged insane. I want to see Bev's insane rapey dad being controlled by It.
More_Badass
Member
What do you think of The Witch? That's probably my favorite horror movie of the last 5 years
I'd also consider Green Room a horror movie, a horror thriller.
RuinerPrime
Member
Forgot about 1408, I like that one despite not being a huge John Cusack fan.
I reaaaly love The Mist, I didn't know people felt the same way tho.
mariachi507
Member
I haven't thought about The Night Flier in a long time. I wonder how it would hold up for me today.
HollowCentral
Member
Saw what seemed like every single TV spot for IT on MTV today.
They're really pushing it for that crowd. I mean, they did debut a trailer at the awards earlier this year, but still. I find it weird. I would think the demographic would be older than late teens to early adults.
They're really pushing it for that crowd. I mean, they did debut a trailer at the awards earlier this year, but still. I find it weird. I would think the demographic would be older than late teens to early adults.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Probably the most relevant for today.
More_Badass
Member
What time do reviews come out today?
I have no idea. Hopefully in the day time.
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
RottenTomatoes prediction time.
I think I'm going to go with: 78%.
I think I'm going to go with: 78%.
Crimsonlink
Member
I'll say 72% with audiences leaving it at 88%
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
I'll go 85%. Critics have been pretty kind to "smart horror" recently.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
7.6 and 90 %.
More_Badass
Member
Considering Stranger Things, I think this will score in the mid 80s%, because even if the horror elements may be less effective for some, the kids' story and their bonding and misadventures could keep the narrative and film afloat
I'll say 83% and 7.3 average
I'll say 83% and 7.3 average
I see what u did there
More_Badass
Member
It's IT and was tracking towards being record breaking, the scrutiny is going to happen even without the hype
MosquitoSmasher
Member
Oh shit, that was a King story? I honestly didn't know but the movie is fantastic.
Lifejumper
Member
Low 80's. 7,2 average. A success.
What your mind blown even more?
It's from the same book which contains four different novellas, three of which have been highly successful films.
The films are Apt Pupil (bit underrated, good but no great), Stand By Me and The Shawshank Redemption
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Different_Seasons
Talk about gold. 80s King really had it. He can still put out good stuff here and there though.
Lan Dong Mik
And why would I want them?
Pet Sematary fucked me up when I was a kid. One of the scariest movies of all time imo. I couldn't even look at the screen when Pascow was there, and he was the fucking good ghost lol!
A lot of great King adaptations. Hell I even liked Needful Things and Silver Bullet
Oh yeah, and I'll wager this gets a solid 84% on RT when it's all said and done. CANNOT WAIT!!!!
Insane Metal
Member
Reviews should be dropping today, right?
Yes, we just don't know when.
Mrstriker09
Member
i think its late tonight
TheJollyCorner
Member
Insane Metal
Member
Right, thanks!
More_Badass
Member
It's kind of ironic that King is known for being today's most prolific and popular horror writer, and yet most of his best adaptations and movies are all dramas and realistic thrillers. You kind of forget that he's really great at human drama, no supernatural or weird horror needed. Reading It made me realize that was his biggest strength, he can capture character and personality better than anyone else I've read.
I'm going to guess around the 75% ballpark and an average rating in the 6.5 area. I can see it getting a lot of 3/5 type scores. It's going to get praise for the acting and for the core kids story but there are going to be some critics ragging on the use of CGI and the style of horror it employs. Even if you don't care about egregious CGI and such, there will be a fair chunk of critics who do. It's the nature of the beast.
Anyway, I got kind of defensive last night and I think my points about the fact that I broadly enjoyed the movie kind of got lost. Like I said, it flew by and even if I didn't think all the set-pieces were at the same level, it was very rare I wasn't entertained. It moves at such a good pace that even if not everything works for you, it's onto to the next set-piece or wisecrack very quickly. If you're at all interested in the movie you should definitely go check it out. It's certainly an experience!
There are very, very few actual jump scares in the movie. Whatever issues I had with some of the horror elements, overuse of jump scares wasn't one of them.
RumbleHumble
Banned
Usually that's the case when the movie is not a studio project or when the movie's commentary feels "relevant" to the times.
Horror is real divisive, for this movie to get an 85%, it'll need to be a fucking masterpiece.
All indications are that it's great, but a little more standard studio fare than you might think. I'll go 78%.
More_Badass
Member
How is Pennywise rushing at the screen not a jump scare? I thought you were giving the impression that the movie relies heavily on jump scares, due to that aspect and "modern horror"
True, but most horror movies are just straight horror. Even something like Babadook, the drama is another facet of the horror. If the horror doesn't work for the critic, the movie as a whole fails. This sounds like it's as much horror as it is coming-of-age/friendship story, so those elements might engage viewers even if the horror doesn't
DeathoftheEndless
Crashing this plane... with no survivors!
I'm expecting around 90% RT. Good horror movies usually review really well.
Mrstriker09
Member
i always get early screening for movies i can wait for but havent got one for this..ughhh
Well it sounds like people actually like the characters and the movie is quite funny in addition to being scary.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
A lot of the screenings aren't until tonight so unless someone rushes home and immediately cranks out their 300-900 word review in the following 2-3hrs, (which will probably happen) a lot of em probably won't start popping up until tomorrow morning
Not counting the reviews already on-deck from people who saw previews last week, although I'm wondering if they can't release those until after tonight's screenings finish.
The Running Man is a shitty film and an even shittier adaptation.