PhoncipleBone
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Both terrible and awesome. Now we can do a double play of Under Pressure then Ice Ice Baby
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Rock Band Rivals |OT| We're Still Putting The Rock Band Back Together
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Juke Joint Jezebel
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Neither are in any of the card announcements so far. Getting both though for sure!
Shift Breaker
Member
Season pass continues to deliver.
the fuck
Whitney's a nice surprise, too. Not really my kind of thing, but it's undoubtedly a classic of its time and good for parties.
I'll probably buy it when drunk.
Hmmm, interesting. Ice Ice Baby seems tailor made for that sort of thing so I figured this was cross-promotion.
pete_clarf
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We (Milk Breath) an open spot. XB1. Potentially have three spots open if there are that many interested! We made Bloodstone during Season One! Send me message I you're interested.
PROh1bited
Banned
Ice Ice Baby is DIY stems FYI
This image is all-the-way confusing. It also shows the Whitney Houston song as the one for the Spotlight Pass, while the other image has it as Vanilla Ice.the bonus is actually 25%, not double, but here's this week spotlights
lol yup, Ice Ice is definitely the pass one. It looks like PAX got them all jumbled up, because I vaguely remember they said spotlights wouldn't have two new songs anymore.
Juke Joint Jezebel
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Both songs are now on the xbox store by manually searching for "Vanilla" and "Houston"
Juke Joint Jezebel
Member
Yo, my boy Vanilla is spitting lyrical fire dawg! You trippin'!
Anyway, here's this weeks DLC impressions, stem confirmations and first playthrough scores!
”Ice Ice Baby" - Vanilla Ice – [Guitar: Tier 0 | Bass: Tier 0 | Drums: Tier 0 | Vocals: Tier 0]
Expert Guitar: 53,743 | 100% Notes Hit (260/260) Full Combo | Gold Stars
Expert Bass: 100,283 | 100% Notes Hit (509/509) Full Combo | Gold Stars
”I Wanna Dance With Somebody (Who Loves Me) – Whitney Houston – [Guitar: Tier 2 | Bass: Tier 3 | Drums: Tier 4 | Vocals: Tier 5]
Expert Guitar: 130,571 | 100% Notes Hit (530/530) Full Combo | Gold Stars
Expert Bass: 129,158 | 100% Notes Hit (624/624) Full Combo | Gold Stars
Stem Confirmations: "Ice Ice Baby" is a DIY stem job but you can barely tell to be honest. The vocals and other tracks don't really lower in quality when missing notes on your instrument, the only tell-tale sign is you can hear your own track lower when missing notes, it's honestly not bad at all and apart from that you can't really tell. "I Wanna Dance With Somebody" is also a stemless track as well, while the overall track muffling when missing notes isn't as severe as other tracks when missing notes it's still very apparent. So yeah, no master tracks this week but they're a cut above the usual for DIY stems!
DLC Impressions: ”I Wanna Dance With Somebody" is surprisingly fun on ”keytar". Whilst it doesn't push the boat out in terms of difficulty it's a really fun spaced out series of chords, note zig-zagging, single and chord note flushes and even an offbeat alt-strumming section halfway through. So yeah, colour me surprised that I really enjoyed myself on guitar! Bass is great fun as well! It's a nice bouncy little bassline with gradual movement up and down the fretboard 2-3 note hammer-on sequences dotted throughout. It's pretty engaging all the way through and sounds rad as fuck to boot! ”Ice Ice Baby" on the other hand is pretty damn boring on guitar. It's just the same repetitive pattern of ascending single note strums followed by long sustains over and over with a couple of chord notes in between each verse. And then there's the bass, the only part most people remember from the song! But only because most of it is lifted straight up from ”Under Pressure"! Nothing much to talk about here either. You play the iconic Queen songs bass riff on the yellow and orange threats with a steady 3 note gallop at the end each time along with a three note hammer-on sequence lower down the fretboard in between. So yeah across the board ”I Wanna Dance With Somebody" easily wins this week, but both are great party tracks so I'd recommend getting both anyway.
It's up!
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Jawmuncher
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Damn Birds still ain't out?
FyreWulff's Next Gen Guide To Quickly Expanding Your Rock Band Library, 2017 edition
Rock Band Track Packs
Check your favorite retailer, new copies only
Physical disc releases that contained a collection of DLC songs you could play. You need the copy that matches your console family: PS3 for Playstation, Xbox 360 for Xbox. PS2 Track Packs do not come with a code for PS3 (and yes, this has come up). Remember, you need to get a NEW copy, because it's a DLC code on the manual. You don't need the PS3 or 360 to export, just put the code in on the Redeem Code website for the specific platform.
Special note: The AC/DC Track Pack is still the only way to get those songs.
Value: 65 cents per song . Average price of a Track Pack is 13$.
Rock Band: Green Day
While the game's export has officially expired the entire disc setlist is available on the store as regular DLC in album packs and singles. It will cost somewhere slightly north of 65$ to buy it all as DLC if you buy as much of it as album/song packs as possible.
Rock Band Rivals
Originally releasing as just an expansion with the Rivals game mode and Rockumentary, buying Rivals now entitles you to a bunch of free songs. Specifically, 26 of them.
24 of these tracks are automatically added to your game via the latest patch, so updating your game is required to get at them. Four of them require you to download them from the music store for free. Search the store for these tracks after buying Rivals:
"Sweater Weather" - Parks
"To My Romeo" - Spirit Kid
"Black Seas" - Arctic Horror
"(You're) Breakin' Up" - The Black Cheers
Also, you need to own Rivals to play online. So that's a thing.
Value: $1.15 per song . Rock Band Rivals costs 30$ US as of this post. More free songs may be continually added, but are not guaranteed
Free DLC
Two free songs by EVE developers Permaband are available in the store to both base and Rivals expansion owners. Search "Permaband" in the store to get them.
Songs Re-released
This used to be the part of the post where I listed the RB3 version re-releases, but since then Harmonix has started the Rock Band Rewind program, where they re-license songs out of previous game discs and sell them as singles. Simply go into the music store and find the "Rock Band Rewind" category to view all of them. Purchasing Rewinds are the same as if you got the song via the export, so they're compatible with disc exporters online and have all the original features and quirks. A lot of people own these songs, and are generally well known hits, so it's a good idea to pick them up! Please note that even though Rock Band 3's export is currently available, they are also selling some RB3 songs via the Rewind program, so make sure to buy the RB3 export to avoid double-buys if you're interested in that export.
Special note: if you are coming back from RB3, and you bought any (RB3 Version) in that game, the RB3 and RB1/2 versions of songs have now been consolidated. So if your friend only had We Are The Champions as a Lego export, but you bought it as the RB3Version DLC, you can now play it together. The consolidated versions are the RB3 Version's chart.
Rock Band 3 Export
The best value in disc exports in Rock Band in 2017. This 15$ export gets you all 83 songs from Rock Band 3! It's easily the best value for songs by a large margin, and has plenty of chart toppers and indie diamonds, any of these songs sound familiar to you?:
Smoke on the Water - Deep Purple
Free Bird - Lynyrd Skynyrd
Imagine - John Lennon
Bohemian Rhapsody - Queen
Space Oddity (aka Ground Control to Major Tom) - David Bowie
Walk of Life - Dire Straits
Rainbow in the Dark - Dio
Crazy Train - Ozzy Osbourne
Normally if these songs were regular DLC, you be paying 16$ to get them. With the RB3 Export, you can get them for 15$ and 75 other tracks come along for the ride. Whoa.
To get the Rock Band 3 export, you need to have played Rock Band 3 while connected to PSN or Xbox Live with an actual account from an actual PS3 or 360. Used or borrowed copies also work for this.
Note: Imagine has had the Keytar chart moved over to Guitar in RB4, so it supports all 4 instruments.
Note2: It is likely the RB3 export will last for 5 years like previous exports, so it will likely expire around 2020. Don't wait, get it ASAP!
Value: 18 cents per song
DLC with multiple versions - covers
Be careful to make sure to get the originals if you like these songs. Don't ask why Harmonix brought their inhouse covers forward as RB4 DLC. We don't know either.
"Limelight" and "Working Man" by Rush have both HMX covers and originals as DLC. "Tom Sawyer" has the original version as DLC, the cover was only available via the now expired RB1 export.
"Fortunate Son" by CCR has both a HMX cover and the original on the store.
"Sound of Silence" by Simon & Garfunkel also has Disturbed's recent cover on the store.
"Ring of Fire" by Johnny Cash also has Social Distortion's cover on the store.
"Ice Ice Baby" by Vanilla Ice has Queen's cover of this chart hit on the store under the name "Under Pressure".
DLC with multiple version - live/alternates
"Band on the Run" by Paul McCartney has both a Live and the original studio version on the store.
"Poker Face" has both the Lady Gaga original and the Cartman parody from South Park as DLC on the store. The Cartman version was supposed to be expired but is still on the store, so if it works for you, yay!
Special Note to Cross Generation completionists
If you are somewhat interested in going back and playing the old games with DLC you buy today, there is something you need to know. All DLC released after RB4's debut is for Rock Band 4 only.
DLC that released after RB3's debut is RB3 only.
DLC that released before RB3's debut works in both RB1 and RB2, and if it was "family friendly", Lego Rock Band.
If you are on Playstation, you don't need to do anything special. Even if you buy a compatible song via Rock Band 4, you will be given the entitlement to that song for PS3. Buy without worry!
If you are Xbox, you're going to have to do a little more work. The entitlements only go in one direction - from the 360 to the One. So if you're interested in playing legacy DLC in a 360 title, you must buy the song via the 360 Web Store or an Xbox 360 first. Once you do so, the song will immediately be entitled to you on the One via your Ready to Install. If you're not interested in having songs cross-gen, then you don't need to care about this at all.
Rock Band Track Packs
Check your favorite retailer, new copies only
Physical disc releases that contained a collection of DLC songs you could play. You need the copy that matches your console family: PS3 for Playstation, Xbox 360 for Xbox. PS2 Track Packs do not come with a code for PS3 (and yes, this has come up). Remember, you need to get a NEW copy, because it's a DLC code on the manual. You don't need the PS3 or 360 to export, just put the code in on the Redeem Code website for the specific platform.
Special note: The AC/DC Track Pack is still the only way to get those songs.
Value: 65 cents per song . Average price of a Track Pack is 13$.
Rock Band: Green Day
While the game's export has officially expired the entire disc setlist is available on the store as regular DLC in album packs and singles. It will cost somewhere slightly north of 65$ to buy it all as DLC if you buy as much of it as album/song packs as possible.
Rock Band Rivals
Originally releasing as just an expansion with the Rivals game mode and Rockumentary, buying Rivals now entitles you to a bunch of free songs. Specifically, 26 of them.
24 of these tracks are automatically added to your game via the latest patch, so updating your game is required to get at them. Four of them require you to download them from the music store for free. Search the store for these tracks after buying Rivals:
"Sweater Weather" - Parks
"To My Romeo" - Spirit Kid
"Black Seas" - Arctic Horror
"(You're) Breakin' Up" - The Black Cheers
Also, you need to own Rivals to play online. So that's a thing.
Value: $1.15 per song . Rock Band Rivals costs 30$ US as of this post. More free songs may be continually added, but are not guaranteed
Free DLC
Two free songs by EVE developers Permaband are available in the store to both base and Rivals expansion owners. Search "Permaband" in the store to get them.
Songs Re-released
This used to be the part of the post where I listed the RB3 version re-releases, but since then Harmonix has started the Rock Band Rewind program, where they re-license songs out of previous game discs and sell them as singles. Simply go into the music store and find the "Rock Band Rewind" category to view all of them. Purchasing Rewinds are the same as if you got the song via the export, so they're compatible with disc exporters online and have all the original features and quirks. A lot of people own these songs, and are generally well known hits, so it's a good idea to pick them up! Please note that even though Rock Band 3's export is currently available, they are also selling some RB3 songs via the Rewind program, so make sure to buy the RB3 export to avoid double-buys if you're interested in that export.
Special note: if you are coming back from RB3, and you bought any (RB3 Version) in that game, the RB3 and RB1/2 versions of songs have now been consolidated. So if your friend only had We Are The Champions as a Lego export, but you bought it as the RB3Version DLC, you can now play it together. The consolidated versions are the RB3 Version's chart.
Rock Band 3 Export
The best value in disc exports in Rock Band in 2017. This 15$ export gets you all 83 songs from Rock Band 3! It's easily the best value for songs by a large margin, and has plenty of chart toppers and indie diamonds, any of these songs sound familiar to you?:
Smoke on the Water - Deep Purple
Free Bird - Lynyrd Skynyrd
Imagine - John Lennon
Bohemian Rhapsody - Queen
Space Oddity (aka Ground Control to Major Tom) - David Bowie
Walk of Life - Dire Straits
Rainbow in the Dark - Dio
Crazy Train - Ozzy Osbourne
Normally if these songs were regular DLC, you be paying 16$ to get them. With the RB3 Export, you can get them for 15$ and 75 other tracks come along for the ride. Whoa.
To get the Rock Band 3 export, you need to have played Rock Band 3 while connected to PSN or Xbox Live with an actual account from an actual PS3 or 360. Used or borrowed copies also work for this.
Note: Imagine has had the Keytar chart moved over to Guitar in RB4, so it supports all 4 instruments.
Note2: It is likely the RB3 export will last for 5 years like previous exports, so it will likely expire around 2020. Don't wait, get it ASAP!
Value: 18 cents per song
DLC with multiple versions - covers
Be careful to make sure to get the originals if you like these songs. Don't ask why Harmonix brought their inhouse covers forward as RB4 DLC. We don't know either.
"Limelight" and "Working Man" by Rush have both HMX covers and originals as DLC. "Tom Sawyer" has the original version as DLC, the cover was only available via the now expired RB1 export.
"Fortunate Son" by CCR has both a HMX cover and the original on the store.
"Sound of Silence" by Simon & Garfunkel also has Disturbed's recent cover on the store.
"Ring of Fire" by Johnny Cash also has Social Distortion's cover on the store.
"Ice Ice Baby" by Vanilla Ice has Queen's cover of this chart hit on the store under the name "Under Pressure".
DLC with multiple version - live/alternates
"Band on the Run" by Paul McCartney has both a Live and the original studio version on the store.
"Poker Face" has both the Lady Gaga original and the Cartman parody from South Park as DLC on the store. The Cartman version was supposed to be expired but is still on the store, so if it works for you, yay!
Special Note to Cross Generation completionists
If you are somewhat interested in going back and playing the old games with DLC you buy today, there is something you need to know. All DLC released after RB4's debut is for Rock Band 4 only.
DLC that released after RB3's debut is RB3 only.
DLC that released before RB3's debut works in both RB1 and RB2, and if it was "family friendly", Lego Rock Band.
If you are on Playstation, you don't need to do anything special. Even if you buy a compatible song via Rock Band 4, you will be given the entitlement to that song for PS3. Buy without worry!
If you are Xbox, you're going to have to do a little more work. The entitlements only go in one direction - from the 360 to the One. So if you're interested in playing legacy DLC in a 360 title, you must buy the song via the 360 Web Store or an Xbox 360 first. Once you do so, the song will immediately be entitled to you on the One via your Ready to Install. If you're not interested in having songs cross-gen, then you don't need to care about this at all.
Susurrus
Member
Oh, you.
Quality stuff as always, thanks.
I'm still flogging RB3 on my 360 because I still use keys/protar/stage kit, and can't justify buying an XBO right now.
My burning question for a little while now is: is there currently any indication I am under any kind of time pressure to do any of the 360 -> XBO exports? I could always get a friend with an XBO to do it for me if any were about to expire.
I have all the export entitlements that go to RB3: most of the track packs, RB1, RB2, LEGO, Green Day, and Blitz. I also definitely want to make sure my delisted DLC transfers over (can't live without my Electric Six).
The only known time limit is RB3 export which will definitely not be forever but also currently doesn't have an end date.
As long as you've bought a song or an export up to now, and Harmonix has fixed it over on RB4-side, you can claim them at any time, as long as Microsoft supports 360 purchases, which seems like it'll be a while due to 360 BC.
Not all of the delisted is fixed yet. Large chunk has, but I think we're still missing about 40 of them. The only E6 song fixed so far is Gay Bar (if you didn't grab the pack before it went down on the One)
As long as you've bought a song or an export up to now, and Harmonix has fixed it over on RB4-side, you can claim them at any time, as long as Microsoft supports 360 purchases, which seems like it'll be a while due to 360 BC.
Not all of the delisted is fixed yet. Large chunk has, but I think we're still missing about 40 of them. The only E6 song fixed so far is Gay Bar (if you didn't grab the pack before it went down on the One)
AlexFlame116
Member
Still waiting for the real version of Juke Box Hero. All we have is the HMX cover version as DLC.
Heck I'll even take the rerecording that both Guitar Hero and DJ Hero use.
Heck I'll even take the rerecording that both Guitar Hero and DJ Hero use.
To be honest I actually really like the GH rerecording more.
it is kinda weird we don't have the master seeing as how they apparently have no problem licensing Foreigner in the first place
Cool, thanks. I expect HMX will get the word out when the RB3 export is about to expire, so it seems I can rest easy for now.
I'm in a weird place where more or less the only reason I want an XBO is because my Rock Band entitlements are locked up in the xbox ecosystem. Given that RB3 still has some features over 4 I'm not in a tremendous hurry, though I am hoarding some legacy adapters.
fake 360 guitars are rare as you needed Microsoft's proprietary security chip to make wireless controllers. The only wired controller was the Xplorer.
They can but it's very rare
The one I found is this one (but new), as you can see it's not the Xplorer but it is also wired: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001L0XUGO/?tag=neogaf0e-20
is it legit?
oh yeah i forgot about the wired RB1 360 controllers. those are legit. they're also crap w/ a mushy strumbar and you can't use them on the One.
wait which platform do you want RB4 on? PS4 can only use Playstation controllers, and Xbox One can only use Xbox 360 controllers via the Legacy Wireless Adapter.
The RB4 Rivals hardware is fine. If you're gonna get it for PS4, you can also use PS3 and PS2 guitars, you just have to also make sure you're getting the correct wireless dongle that goes with them. But usually for previous gen controllers you should be looking at the Guitar Hero (not Live) guitars, as those work in Rock Band.
Well, my first choice would be to get the guitar for the Xbox 360, since I can get most Guitar Hero/Rock Band games pre-owned cheap.
I'm trying to find the best guitar though. I've heard Rock Band guitars are also compatible with Guitar Hero but only from Guitar Hero: World Tour onwards..... is that true?
I'm trying to find the best guitar though. I've heard Rock Band guitars are also compatible with Guitar Hero but only from Guitar Hero: World Tour onwards..... is that true?
Yeah WT onwards have the only guaranteed compatiblity. GH Aerosmith is compatible with the Strats.. sometimes. It's picky about them.
Generally the World Tour or GH5 guitars are considered the best ones, I think.
always crazy bacon
Banned
The best Guitar Hero guitar is the red and white one from Guitar Hero 5. Correct, after GHWT Microsoft set standards that they had to be compatible.
always crazy bacon
Banned
NOT Word Tour. They are the worst of the GH series.
Baron von Loathsome
Member
Yeah, the World Tour/GH5 model was all I used until Rock Band 4, and I still pull it out for multiplayer.
Juke Joint Jezebel
Member
Got lucky here, found a seller with a near mint GH5 controller with the game, but it set me back £25 or so.
Shift Breaker
Member
They definitely did, in the UK at least. Admittedly mine was a Band Hero bundle but we got both the new guitar and the new drums, both of which were of a really high quality. The only reason I don't use mine nowadays is because the whammy bar spring (or whatever part it is) snapped and rather than fix it I just bought a Warriors of Rock guitar instead. Which, by the way, is a fine guitar to get, well worth getting, but the smaller strum bar and the more protruding start button next to the star power button really take some getting used to.
Baron von Loathsome
Member
Shift Breaker
Member
Some Avenged Sevenfold I really quite like. Some I really quite dislike.
I'm honestly struggling to even form an opinion on this song. It's just kind of...a metal song.
Still, ticks the obligatory metal box for the season pass, I guess.
Juke Joint Jezebel
Member
Pretty dull week. A pass for me.
Baron von Loathsome
Member
PhoncipleBone
Banned
BAH! Want more Who that we haven't had yet. Still want A Quick One.
Juke Joint Jezebel
Member
That can be arranged, meet me behind the bike shed for a quick one later!
Only if he's away
Baron von Loathsome
Member
I want The Real Me. I mean, we know it has masters thanks to Fantasia.
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